Why The Great Ones From Bloodborne Should Be Upgrade To 2-C And Oeden 2-B. Plus some Power/Abilities .

[Tincan123]

After reading this post:https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1452619 about how the Great Ones are Multi dimensional beings that can exist across several planes of existence" i tought to myself let me look for some evidence about this topic. Btw gonne bold out the most important information.

The First two clues i fond was in this part of the lore Whether or not the Great Ones are actually gods or just higher levels of beings is inconsequential, the question itself is entirely academic. The important thing is: They exist. They have an influence on the world. They appear to be ageless, but they can be killed. Their powers are strange things, often involving teleportation or energy or things that the human world cannot do. Even perceiving the Great Ones properly requires great amounts of Insight--something Master Willem tried to do, at his own cost.)

with the information about Insight and Master Willem i looked deeper in their lore.

First about Master Willem: (Master Willem was the head of the Byrgenwerth college, a highly prestigious school of knowledge, and zealously pursued the truth and the idea of elevating the mind to the plane of the gods through Insight.)

Second about Insight:

In-Game Description

Insight increases as your character gains knowledge beyond the ken of me. Insight increases as the story progresses and can be used in network play or traded for items. The Insight stat represents the depth of inhuman knowledge. Needed to ring a special bell, but induces frenzy.

Iosefka Third Umbilical Cord

In-Game Description

A great relic, also known as the Cord of the Eye. Every infant Great One has this precursor to the umbilical cord. Provost Willem sought the Cord in order to elevate his being and thoughts to those of a Great One, by lining his brain with eyes. The only choice, he knew, if man were to ever match Their greatness. I Chose this one sinds its the most important one.

Third some interesting stuff about Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos: Known by some as the left behind Great One, it was first met by the Choir after they used the Great Isz chalice to have an audience with it. It became the source of most of the Choir's cosmic knowledge, and caused an inquiry into the cosmos from Isz, which was transcended partially throughout reality. Together they look towards the sky, attempting to discover the secrets of the cosmos, and possibly allow Ebrietas to return to it.

It is encountered in a secret cavern beneath the Grand Cathedral called the Altar of Despair, bowed in front of some form of ascended being's remains, only attacking once it has been attacked. This being resembles Rom, but it is not known what it is, though it reverses time.

Conclusion: the Great ones should be seen as 4-D beings given the inforamtion and lore about them. I am not so sure about About 5 and higher sinds A couldt find infromation about different worlds so be my guess. And B its hard to engage it with all the dream worlds stuff.

Notes

If this upgrade is allowed you guys should also add these Power/Abilites

Space/Time Manipulation: because they are 4-D beings

Astral Manipulation: seesing how the can trap humans in a endless nightmare and they can effect both the astral world and the physical world.

Probably Fate Manipulation because of this: Childhood's Beginning You became an infant Great One, lifting humanity into its next childhood.

 

[ShiroyashaGinSan]

Knowledgeable Members List. Post the link of the thread on their wall. I kinda didn't play Bloodborne because Dark Souls is disgusting enough.

 

[Tincan123]

tnx

 

[DMUA]

I.... Really don't know what to think about this.

I will say Incomprehensible doesn't necessarily mean Higher Dimensional, although this does provide support I suppose since the reverse can be true, Higher Dimensions being Incomprehensible.

 

[Tincan123]

I also theorize that we as hunters are fighting The Great Ones spiritual body and not there physically body given the fact how A we are fighting them in a dream world and B this:

Choir Garb Description

"Attire of the Choir, high-ranking members of the Healing Church. Members of the Choir are both the highest-ranking clerics of the Healing Church, and scholars who continue the work that began at Byrgenwerth. Together with the left behind Great One, they look to the skies, in search of astral signs, that may lead them to the rediscovery of true greatness.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

While i dont think there's enough solid evidence to support this YET, i will point out that in the comics, Rom's realm, the Moonside Lake, is described as a place between worlds where time buckles and folds

 

[Wokistan]

Not entirely sure about 2C, but why would Odeon be 2B? It may be vastly above the other great ones, but it is unquantifiably so.

 

[DMUA]

Yeah. Really it would be At least 2-C.

 

[The_Everlasting]

The funny thing is that the Japanese version of Bloodborne actually directly states the Great Ones are from a higher dimension.

Though it can't be used because they don't have remotely comparable feats and the game really doesn't treat them as such.

 

[Tincan123]

The funny thing is that the Japanese version of Bloodborne actually directly states the Great Though it can't be used because they don't have remotely comparable feats and the game really Ones are from a higher dimension. doesn't treat them as such.

Does it really have to be visual given the information about the Great Ones

 

[Tincan123]

Got some more information from the Eye rune: "A secret symbol left by Caryll, runesmith of Byrgenwerth." A transcription of "Eye," as spoken by left-behind Great Ones."Allows one to make additional discoveries." Eyes symbolize the truth Master Willem sought in his research." Disillusioned by the limits of human intellect, Master Willem looked" to beings from higher planes for guidance, and sought to line his brain with eyes in order to elevate his thoughts.

 

[Wokistan]

Considering the influence of the Lovecraft Mythos on Bloodborne, evidence of higher dimensional old ones wouldn't be especially surprising.

 

[Tincan123]

I also might fond some evidence about my theory that Great Ones are in their spiritual form and not there physically form. From the Moon Rune: "A secret symbol left by Caryll, runesmith of Byrgenwerth." A transcription of "moon", as spoken by the Great Ones inhabiting the nightmare. "Gain more Blood Echoes." The Great Ones that inhabit the nightmare are sympathetic in spirit, and often answer when called upon.

 

[Tincan123]

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