Why is Momoshiki below kaguya in terms of Attack potency?

[Mobzzzzz5]

Momoshiki, has only Moon level+ attack potency, but he is stated to be a greater threat than kaguya, and she has Planet level attack potency. Momoshiki and Kinshiki are the reason kaguya started building the white zetsu army. They scared her so much that she was willing to kill her own children to continue building the white zetsu army so she at least stood a chance against them, yet Momoshiki, the guy she feared so much, and she would know how powerful he is, after all she did come from their planet, only has Moon level+ attack potency. It is later confirmed by Sasuke that Momoshiki and Kinshiki were a greater threat then kaguya, in gaiden and the boruto movie, so how is he only Moon level+ after absorbing kinshiki. I'm not going to discuss how this applies to Naruto and Sasuke, just Momoshiki (Kinshiki absorbed). If anyone has any explanations I would love to hear them, but I would have to disagree if you said that they aren't a greater threat, because they terrified Kaguya. If no one disagrees could we please boost Momoshiki to Planet level+ as he is stronger than Kaguya.

Sasuke talking about Momoshiki and Kinshiki

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Have we reached an agreement, or are you all just sick of me?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

well its true that he was stated to be stronger but as of now his feats dont back up those claims and the way the boruto manga is going now im not even sure why his 5C with out his goblem statute but thats besides the point, bu at the end of the day Feats>>>>statments

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

And what says that the threat Sasuke speaks of is Momo or just Momo? Also being a bigger threat doesn't equal being more powerful....

 

[LordGriffin1000]

Isn't kaguya Small Planet Level noramly and Planet level with expansive truth seeking ball. Even if he says he's a bigger threat in turms of Ap without a feat he would only be Small Plant Level+ not Planet level+

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Wouldn't you consider scaring Kaguya enough to accept killing her sons a strong enugh argument, and it was Momoshiki and Kinshiki that scared her, but kinshiki was later absorbed by Momoshiki, slaming their powers together, making him at least twice as strong which is why I would argue for double the strength.

 

[Antvasima]

I will ask Kkapoios and TheMightyRegulator about this.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

There have been quite a lot of naruto threads recently, as for this idk, can't really help.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Well, I'd be scared as duck too if my strongest attack, TSB, can possibly be absorbed by Momo too.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Well, I'd be scared as duck too if my strongest attack, TSB, can possibly be absorbed by Momo too.

let's not forget that he would shoot it back at you with twice the strength

 

[AppleLord]

I agree with @Gemmysaur statement. I would also like to recommend waiting for the next Boruto chapter, it should come out before Sunday. The Boruto Manga shows a stronger Merged Momoshiki than the movie, and his Golem is featless, I don't know why it has a tier. lol

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

I agree with @Gemmysaur statement. I would also like to recommend waiting for the next Boruto chapter, it should come out before Sunday. The Boruto Manga shows a stronger Merged Momoshiki than the movie, and his Golem is featless, I don't know why it has a tier. lol

The manga is out in mangamint... The guy gets defeat like in the Movie by the Father son Rasengan by Boruto. Pathetic if you ask me.

 

[AppleLord]

Well, I haven't read it yet, but I was expecting him to die in the same way.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

I agree with @Gemmysaur statement. I would also like to recommend waiting for the next Boruto chapter, it should come out before Sunday. The Boruto Manga shows a stronger Merged Momoshiki than the movie, and his Golem is featless, I don't know why it has a tier. lol

The manga is out in mangamint... The guy gets defeat like in the Movie by the Father son Rasengan by Boruto. Pathetic if you ask me.

I don't know if you expected a different ending, but it is a movie adaptation, as the movie is canon, and by extension the source for the current manga chapter, so yeah the ending is going to be the same..

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

I will ask Kkapoios and TheMightyRegulator about this.

Any response yet?

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Do you guys agree with me that he should be boosted to Planet level, because your responses are confusing me?

 

[Antvasima]

Kkapoios said that he will try to reply tomorrow.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Kkapoios said that he will try to reply tomorrow.

I have a question for you would it be acceptable to bring up an already discussed thread if you have new evidence?

 

[Gemmysaur]

I think, if it's not the whole lightspeed Naruto thing, it's fine.

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

Thanks @Gemmysaur

 

[Mobzzzzz5]

@Kkapoios do you agree with bumping him up to planet level?

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

I read the manga chapters and i have to say, he doesn't seem to be near Kaguya's level.Naruto and Sasuke were able to defeat him and Boruto with Naruto's chakra KOed (or killed him) that's two defeats in a few pages by the guys that couldn't defeat Kaguya without the Chibaku tensei.So no i don't think he should be Planet level.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

^Thank you

 

[Damico22]

momoshiki should be at least planet level scaling from kaguya

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I also agree that Momoshiki shouldn't be scaled to Kaguya but what will his tier be?

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

Momoshiki is not on Kaguya league. Madara and Hagoromo are also stronger. Only his absorbtion tech is deadly. Also if Kishi didn't nerf the Rinnegan and the Preta Path then what Momo did with the absorption then all of the Rinnegan users could do it. (except the send the tech back more powerful part)

If he was above Kaguya, he would have one shotted Naruto and Sasuke. And Kaguya had the power to do but she was quite brainless or wanted their chakra. Momo here is just a threat for his absorb and send back tech. That's all.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

True. Sasuke probably regarded him as a greater threat because of his ability to absorb and send back ninjutsu.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Tier-wise, Kaguya > Momo from portrayal against Naruto and Sasuke. Kaguya was clearly winning in her fight against the duo until Kakashi got ghost!amped while Momo was only on par with the duo if they're without their jutsus, which is extremely limiting for them considering one is a walking nuclear arsenal with blonde hair and the other, a haxx storage with black hair. We saw what happened when he got hit by a huge Oodama Rasengan to the face.

Power-wise, Momo > Kaguya simply because of bad matchup. Kaguya's best feature is her techniques like expansive TSB and ash bones, while Momo's best feature is lolnope absorb and return.

In a fight against the two, Momo is obviously superior in any close combat encounter and Kaguya's methods of attack at range are all but useless unless she wants to give Momo some ammo.

Regardless, Momo doesn't need to scale to Kaguya in power to beat her. Only reflexes.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Well, Kaguya can just slam her ETSB on the ground and survive because of her Regenerationn while Momoshiki gets killed.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Iirc, TSB explodes by rapidly expanding, yes? Momo absorbs it once the expansion reaches him.

 

[ΚΟΜΙΞ]

Iirc, TSB explodes by rapidly expanding, yes? Momo absorbs it once the expansion reaches him.

We don't now if he can absorb something of that Scale! He didn't even bother to absorb Kurama and Susanoo Avatars which are jutsu made by chakra!

Tech wize Momo is better since he can absorb Kaguya's tech. Power wize which means chakra wize not even close. Also if someone cuts Momo left hand which absorbs jutsu then he is beaten easily by the god tiers.

Also Momo couldn't see Boruto Rasengan since Boruto said that he can not counter somehing he can not see. Then Madara's Limbo stomps him.

Madara can counter Momo and Momo can counter Kaguya. But that doesn't mean Madara> Momo > Kaguya in power. Its just the situation-tech... Its Kaguya>Madara>Momo.

 

[Gemmysaur]

If you read what I posted earlier. I said Kaguya is surely stronger than Momo. Just that his tech hard counters hers.

Madara is irrelevant here.

He doesn't need to absorb something of that Scale!, he only needs to absorb what's gonna hit him if he can't take all of it.

Regarding Naruto's chakra megazord, he was using one of his own and thus was unable to make contact with the megazord himself.

Kaguya has no invisible tech anyway so bringing up Boruto's invisible Rasengan is moot. If you mean that Kaguya can blindside Momo with portal combat, then no. He smacked Sasuke aside when he tried a backstab via ameno.

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

This is getting a bit pointless, the thread was suggesting an upgrade and the upgrade isn't accepted.I'm closing this.