Where does this Higher Plane of Existence scale to? Another Question about Regeneration (High-Godly)

[Frey_Starlight]

Q1) Does this make the Gods and Pantheons in which they exist a Higher Dimension and where does this get scaled to? (I dont Know if the context of Fate or destiny is important for this scaling, but this concept encapsulates all the 'what ifs' that can happen, all actions that a character takes, Akashic Records also registers an alternate timeline where an opposite action takes place and this is for everything that exists in the Universe. This branching happens due to <Fate> or <Destiny> concepts)

"Do you really want to know what my blood tastes like?"
"Yes."
"Then become a God."
"…Eh?"
"If you become a God of any kind, you will gain natural resistance to the Divine Element."
"That way, you'll get to know what my blood tastes like."
"...Becoming a God is difficult, an almost impossible task."
"Indeed." Aphrodite didn't deny it.
"And I don't want to lose my Progenitor status." Victor instinctively felt that being a Progenitor was something better than being an ordinary God.
"Fool, once your soul changed into its Progenitor form, regardless of what species you are or become, you will still be a Progenitor."
"The only difference is, you will no longer be a Progenitor Vampire, but a Progenitor God who represents the Vampire aspect."
"Something similar to your daughter Nero that, despite being a Noble Vampire, she still uses Werewolf-like techniques."
"A Vampire God, to put it simply." Victor spoke.
"Hmm, you're not wrong, but you're not right at the same time."
"Ugh… Gods and their complicated existences." He spoke in disdain.
"Fufufufu, a God is something different from common species."
"We exist on a higher plane of existence, we who keep reality going." Aphrodite turned off the shower,
"Without a God to represent a concept in any Pantheon, that concept will cease to work in reality."
"..." Victor felt that he understood, and at the same time, he didn't.
"For example, I will use myself to explain." Aphrodite lathered with her hand and poured the soap from the container.
Victor looked at the soap and took it too, making foam with his hand too.
Aphrodite took Victor's rock-hard member and started washing him again...
Victor did the opposite and took both of Aphrodite's breasts and started washing them.
"...." Aphrodite looked up in amusement at this scene and said nothing.
"I am a Second-Generation Goddess of Olympus, I am a Titan, and I represent Beauty, Love, Sex, etc. You already know."
"Mmm." Victor nodded as he stopped soaping Aphrodite's breasts and started cleaning her waist and her ass.
Aphrodite bit her lip lightly and stopped her moan from coming out.
"Concepts are fundamental aspects of the Universe. When you become a God, you become the representative of those aspects in reality."
"And if the Gods that represent that Aspect of Reality disappear along with all the other Gods related to that concept, the concept will stop working in reality."
"For example, Love. If you kill all the Goddesses of Love, 'love' will cease to exist in reality. No one could love until another God of that Divinity is born again."
"Oh." Now Victor understood: "That seems like something difficult to achieve."
"Indeed, you would have to fight multiple Pantheons, after all."
'Not to mention that the beings responsible for the functioning of the Universe would not let that happen.' Aphrodite couldn't help but think about those beings of great power who were neutral towards everything and only cared about the continuation of existence.

Q2) Getting resurected to same existence or regenerated to same existence after total destruction of Soul is considered to be Mid-Godly in general and Having your entire narrative and story which defines your existence be erased and still come back to life is considered High-Godly. In the verse if the Soul of an entity is the thing that holds all entity's entire narrative and entirity of what defines that entity in question and certain higher form of energy is able to completely erase fundemental aspects (ike there race/species/biological structures, powers, past present future etc) from the soul, which also results in that from the character's existence perspective, the character fundementally never had the things that were erased form the start itself. So in theory if this higher form of energy ends up erasing the character A who used this energy in a back fire and the character A was able to be fixed by the same higher form of energy but from a different Character B who was just present there to supervise the being in this 'training' will this grant High Godly regen for the Character B and all the beings who could do this same feat be applicable to have High Godly Regeneration if assuming they can also do it on themselves if this type of accident happens to them?

 

[Frey_Starlight]

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[Digital_Franz]

Q1) Does this make the Gods and Pantheons in which they exist a Higher Dimension and where does this get scaled to?

Given how they are depicted, I guess they may have Higher-Dimensional Existence (4-D). As for where they scale, I would need feats to know.

(I dont Know if the context of Fate or destiny is important for this scaling, but this concept encapsulates all the 'what ifs' that can happen, all actions that a character takes, Akashic Records also registers an alternate timeline where an opposite action takes place and this is for everything that exists in the Universe. This branching happens due to <Fate> or <Destiny> concepts)

The stuff with all the "what if" is at least 2-B and it can go much higher depending on the context.

Q2) Getting resurected to same existence or regenerated to same existence after total destruction of Soul is considered to be Mid-Godly in general and Having your entire narrative and story which defines your existence be erased and still come back to life is considered High-Godly. In the verse if the Soul of an entity is the thing that holds all entity's entire narrative and entirity of what defines that entity in question and certain higher form of energy is able to completely erase fundemental aspects (ike there race/species/biological structures, powers, past present future etc) from the soul, which also results in that from the character's existence perspective, the character fundementally never had the things that were erased form the start itself. So in theory if this higher form of energy ends up erasing the character A who used this energy in a back fire and the character A was able to be fixed by the same higher form of energy but from a different Character B who was just present there to supervise the being in this 'training' will this grant High Godly regen for the Character B and all the beings who could do this same feat be applicable to have High Godly Regeneration if assuming they can also do it on themselves if this type of accident happens to them?

High-Godly Healing or Resurrection, depends on the context as character B healed or resurrected character A.

 

[Frey_Starlight]

Given how they are depicted, I guess they may have Higher-Dimensional Existence (4-D). As for where they scale, I would need feats to know.

Gods don't really have that impressive feats for ap scaling, but for pantheons which are said to be higher plane of existence where these gods live are closed dimensions but these dimensions exist in an endless abyss which would be a different layer to reality, as it's often depicted that beings need to travel this endless void to find these pantheons if the World Tree (yggdrasil & Qiliphoth) doesn't allow them to traverse the tree which has branches through all these conceptual planes. This endless void is showed when complete erasure of space and reality happens and only darkness of the abyss is visible in those region of erasure. is it possible to scale these pantheons and the endless abyss in which it exist? In specific instance it was showed that which Kronos/Cronos (Time God) was killed, the time itself cease to exist in the pantheon, and hence that pantheon didn't had a past or a future but only existed in the present. There is also destiny sisters who exist in the pantheon and there job is to stand still and protect the past-present-future of the mythology they belong to... these gods conceptual authority just scales directly to the pantheons.

Victor pierced Zeus' heart and pulled it out of his body. He looked at the heart, which had a faint blue Energy, and swallowed it.
"Mm, tasty." He then threw Zeus's body into The Sea of Blood, which was soon absorbed by the sea.
Aphrodite opened her eyes wide in response to Victor's action. 'He really ate it... He's crazy, doesn't he know that Zeus is practically his opposite? Does he want to die!?
Rumble, rumble, rumble.
Victor's Red Lightning began to gain a stronger red hue and seemed even more vivid and visible. At this moment, Victor felt that he could control the weather as he pleased.
"Hmm~, this feeling is so good~"
Aphrodite opened her eyes wide again. 'His Lightning has been refined... Don't tell me he absorbed Zeus's Power? How!? ...Ah, Roxanne...'
With Roxanne in his body, any Positive Energy consumed by his heart would be adapted and turned into Negative Energy. In the case of Zeus' Power, this Power was neither Positive nor Negative; it was merely a part of the planet's existence and shouldn't harm Victor.
It would be different if Victor tried to devour a God of Light since 'Light' was directly connected to The Positive Side of the scale.
But Neutral Elements or even Darkness wouldn't harm him.
Tartarus looked at Kronos in the distance and approached him. When he appeared near Kronos' body, a fist came towards him and sent him flying.
He couldn't even react to such absurd speed.
"Stealing others' kills is not cool."
Victor grabbed Kronos by the neck and showed his sunken skull to all the Olympians; he was effectively dead, only still breathing due to his natural resilience as a Second-
Generation Primordial God.
Using his right hand, Victor pierced Kronos' heart and pulled it out.
A situation similar to Zeus' death occurred, and suddenly, the 'Time' on Mount Olympus stopped 'advancing.' With the death of Time, everything in the Pantheon became stagnant; nothing would be created anymore, and the past and future of The Greek Pantheon ceased to exist, leaving only the present.
"The Heart of The Titan of Time..." Victor opened his mouth and ate it.
"Mm, not bad." Victor threw the Titan of Time's body into The Sea of Blood. Unlike Zeus, almost his entire Soul was still usable, so he could return as an Immortal Soldier, and that was what happened.
Kronos, The Ancient Titan of Time, returned as an Immortal Soldier.
"... Brother..." Atlas clenched his fist as he looked at this sight.
Victor's blood-red eyes turned violet, and his gaze shone for a few seconds.
"Hmm~, this feeling, so this is what 'Time' really looks like, huh." Victor felt that he could now see even more of The Truth of The World; he could even influence Time a little if he wanted.
Reading Kronos' memories, he understood.
'I see... Even Kronos couldn't interfere with Time on a large scale outside his Pantheon.' The reason for this was obvious to Victor.
The Primordial Beings.
Beings that always sought Balance; they would never allow Gods with important Concepts like Time, Life, and Death to act as they pleased outside their Pantheon.

"Aphrodite?"
"Hi, hi, Kairos, how are you buddy?" Aphrodite spoke as if she were a teenager.
"I'm fine, thank you. What do you want?" Kairos, the god of opportune 'time' spoke in a dry tone
"It's no big deal, can you check Nightingale for me?" Aphrodite.
"Vlad's kingdom?" Kairos.
"Yes." Aphrodite.
"Sure, give me a sec, I just need to make a call to a friend of mine." Kairos.
"Oh, speaking of her, how is she?" Aphrodite.
"She's still doing her tedious job of preserving the present." Kairos.
"I see... And how are her sisters?" Aphrodite.
"They are the same as they always were, standing in the same place trying to preserve the past and the future." Kairos replied with the same dry tone, but this time it contained a little sadness.
"Ugh, can't they go out and have some fun?" Aphrodite complained.
"Of course not. If she does that, the entire past, present, and future of beings from her mythology will literally fall apart." Kairos replied as if it were something obvious.

Side Note: So while these higher plane itself are closed dimensions and there were at some point a grand total of 7475909777 pantheons of Gods that have existed (this number even accounts for pantheons that have also been destroyed) since the beginning of time.

 

[Stanobreak]

Well, From what has been stated above, it can be understood that the gods represent the concepts of the universe, maintaining the reality that this can provide them is existence (4D) and not necessarily a higher realm in the true sense, because the context that I understand here is a god talking to a mortal that the meaning of "realm" or "plane" of the gods is simply on the perception scale of the collective human consciousness and they are representatives of the laws of the universe, so it is possible that the realm they are referring to is an abstract, higher realm of perception.

 

[Frey_Starlight]

Well, From what has been stated above, it can be understood that the gods represent the concepts of the universe, maintaining the reality that this can provide them is existence (4D) and not necessarily a higher realm in the true sense, because the context that I understand here is a god talking to a mortal that the meaning of "realm" or "plane" of the gods is simply on the perception scale of the collective human consciousness and they are representatives of the laws of the universe, so it is possible that the realm they are referring to is an abstract, higher realm of perception.

hmm this realm is 'real' since the mortal who the goddess is talking to has also entered that higher plane and even poked a hole through the entire dimension. and you beings could even travel the endless abyss to enter other pantheons. (Dimensional Void & Endless Abyss are referring to the same structure in these quoted blocks)

This Void is the abyss itself which seperates all the higher plane of existence (both paradises and Hells of the Planet)

"This isn't enough, Velnorah. Clones are just the beginning; look deeper into the Combat Power section," Ruby said, looking at the hologram that showed Nyx's POV. The Goddess of The Night was already approaching the Norse Pantheon.
She was taking her time because she needed to search in the void between Dimensions, which was a tedious task.

"He has essentially become the Mortal representative of the entire Negative Aspect of The Balance; this kind of Power has never been given to a Mortal before." The Universal Tree spoke with a smile on its face. It was quite content; why wouldn't it be? It knew Victor's personality very well; it knew he wouldn't abuse this incredible Power, and the stronger he became, the safer his sister and the daughters he had come into contact with would be.
ROAAAAAAR!
Typhon roared in defiance at Victor. Unlike Fenrir, who could release the Energy of The END through his mouth, this Beast of The Apocalypse couldn't do that, but in compensation, its entire body was covered by The Concept of The END.
"Irritating." Victor looked at The Beast of The END and snapped his fingers.
In the next second, a giant magical circle appeared beneath Typhon.
"Rest a bit."
In the following moment, Typhon's entire body vanished.
This action left the entire battlefield in absolute silence.
Where did Typhon go?
Well...
The Primordial Entities looked at the drifting Beast of The END in the Dimensional Void.
"..."
"What do we do with this?" The Universal Tree spoke.
"Ignore it?" The Limbo Guy suggested.
"We can't do that; The Concept of The END will erase the void between dimensions. The chaos that will result would be unprecedented." One of The Judges of the Abyss said.
The Limbo Guy, The Universal Tree, and The Judges of Abyss looked at Death with expressionless gazes.
It was a gaze that said, 'You're Death, right? You're The End of Everything. The Concept of The END comes from you, so it's your child; take care of it.'
Death grumbled softly about not wanting to work, until he finally spoke.
"Fine."
Death appeared near Typhon and touched the beast's body, temporarily sealing its END Concept. Then he covered the beast with his Power to prevent it from dying in the Dimensional Void.

The abyss is what exist after deleting the 'area of space' or 'reality'

"Don't try to kill him. We'll be in the territory of a primordial being, and even you can't fight him in his territory."
In the territory of a primordial being, he was practically a conscious god with authority over everything.
Not to mention that despite Fenrir being dangerous, it was only because of his unique characteristics. As an individual, he was extremely easy to deal with for someone like The Owner of Limbo.
If he couldn't use his claws, or his fangs, and inner power, Fenrir would be easily sealed.
Something that couldn't be done with Typhon, although it was easy to seal Typhon since he just had to be thrown into the endless abyss where there was no support for him to move.

His fist was covered in lightning, and he attacked the air in a stance that Natashia would immediately recognize.
One Punch, one million hits.
A technique that the Countess developed, and Victor took it to another level.
With his current power and speed.
It was no longer just 1 million hits. It was... One billion hits.
A burst of pure red plasma-like power flew towards Fenrir, and if it were any other being, such an attack would be deadly, but... For Fenrir?
He just needed to open his mouth and roar!
ROOOOOOOOAR!
In the next moment, all that energy disappeared, along with various objects in a straight line in space.
"... This... This... Holy..." Tasha and Maya were speechless; they couldn't even form coherent words.
"Now you understand why I don't want him fighting on my planet," Aurora said with a sigh.
The sight of everything being DELETED from existence was simply ridiculous. Everything that existed in that area of space was the darkness of the abyss.
Concepts like space and time no longer existed there; everything was deleted.

 

[Digital_Franz]

is it possible to scale these pantheons and the endless abyss in which it exist?

For pantheons it's quite difficult. Since it's treated as higher than reality, maybe it could be rated Low 2-C. For the abyss it will scale to the number of space-time continuums it contains.

In specific instance it was showed that which Kronos/Cronos (Time God) was killed, the time itself cease to exist in the pantheon, and hence that pantheon didn't had a past or a future but only existed in the present. There is also destiny sisters who exist in the pantheon and there job is to stand still and protect the past-present-future of the mythology they belong to... these gods conceptual authority just scales directly to the pantheons.

Hmm I see. Depending on how their concepts are described, they can be Type 1 concepts and scale the Gods to Low 1-A. Check out this CRT.

Side Note: So while these higher plane itself are closed dimensions and there were at some point a grand total of 7475909777 pantheons of Gods that have existed (this number even accounts for pantheons that have also been destroyed) since the beginning of time.

Looks like if the patheons are Low 2-C then the abyss will be 2-B.