What's the difference between Ice Manipulation and Absolute Zero?

[Johner2133451]

Is Absolute Zero just freezing things on an atomic level while Ice manip doesn't by default?

 

[Voidnether]

Is Absolute Zero just freezing things on an atomic level while Ice manip doesn't by default?

Yeah

 

[Johner2133451]

Yeah

Would freezing past the outer layers of the body (like the skin) grants you absolute zero?

 

[Rikimarox2]

Would freezing past the outer layers of the body (like the skin) grants you absolute zero?

No. No reason to assume this is AZ.

 

[Voidnether]

Would freezing past the outer layers of the body (like the skin) grants you absolute zero?

It wouldn't, but it would be Ice Manipulation that's close to Absolute Zero (If it was stated to be close) like Jingliu for example.

Iirc, it either needs to be stated at the temperature of Absolute Zero nor if it freezes at an atomic level.

 

[Johner2133451]

It wouldn't, but it would be Ice Manipulation that's close to Absolute Zero (If it was stated to be close) like Jingliu for example.

Iirc, it either needs to be stated at the temperature of Absolute Zero nor if it freezes at an atomic level.

Well Kuzan has absolute zero yet never stated to freeze at an atomic level

 

[Voidnether]

Well Kuzan has absolute zero yet never stated to freeze at an atomic level

Kuzan's cold presence can freeze all matter within an area down to a halt and render them unable to function.

Check the justification, something like this is enough for AZ (Considering Toshiro's case on Bleach)

 

[First_Witch]

Well Kuzan has absolute zero yet never stated to freeze at an atomic level

 

[Johner2133451]

Check the justification, something like this is enough for AZ (Considering Toshiro's case on Bleach)

Hm ok. Does passively freezing the surroundings count as AZ? Like shimo

 

[Voidnether]

Hm ok. Does passively freezing the surroundings count as AZ? Like shimo

It's said on the profile that it's likely, so it depends. But personally, to get a proper rating:
It needs to be stated as something that freezes all matter to function, which resemblances AZ

 

[First_Witch]

No. Absolute Zero is not something you can just assume without indications. Either it freezes down to absolute Zero, it directly freezes matter or it plain isnt absolute zero

 

[Rikimarox2]

I wonder, would freezing space itself (Xianxia BS, don't ask) due to sheer cold qualify for AZ or nah?

 

[Huesito88]

I wonder, would freezing space itself (Xianxia BS, don't ask) due to sheer cold qualify for AZ or nah?

I don't think so even a guy that had the ability to freeze (ice) the mind, the soul, and the "literal concept" of a person didn't get absolute zero for not having the halt all motion statement

 

[First_Witch]

Thats a ***** wucky I personally woudnt step in; I didnt even know that "freezing matter" fulfilled the atomar freezing portion.

The way I see it, I would say no, because space is a abstract thing that has no clear heat requirement to affect; thats like asking whats the temperature of concept burning fire. If you take the statement the other way and say its a figure of speech meaning that everything within that area was frozen, you would still have to proof that it affected matter itself.