WHAT?! HELP ME! IT'S ME GOKU! [Max (Max (Maxdesignpro) vs Goku (Death Battle!)

[Javenplayz253]

CAN MAX FROM HIT WEBSERIES; MAXDESIGNPRO DEFEAT GOKU?

Rules and Shi:

• Both are Low 5-B (Max is in his normal state)
• Max is bloodlusted
• Max has all of his items
• Speed is equalized
• Both are several meters away from eachother
• Battle takes place ontop of Baldi's schoolhouse

YOU HIT THE LIKE BUTTON!!!:


I WON'T LET YOU DESTROY MY WORRRLLLLLDDDD!!!: 1


FREAKYexe soloes (incon):

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Ain't no way

 

[Javenplayz253]

Ain't no way

Had too...

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Max has the Help Trigger, which can make him stronger… that’s about all he really has going for him. Regeneration won’t be a problem since in the two videos were he’s reduced to ash, he only recovers in the next short, meaning the regeneration probably isn’t combat-applicable. Goku has significantly more skill, a viable long range attack option, a AP advantage, and stat amps to further that. Goku absolutely trashes Max, no question.

 

[Javenplayz253]

Max has the Help Trigger, which can make him stronger… that’s about all he really has going for him. Regeneration won’t be a problem since in the two videos were he’s reduced to ash, he only recovers in the next short, meaning the regeneration probably isn’t combat-applicable. Goku has significantly more skill, a viable long range attack option, a AP advantage, and stat amps to further that. Goku absolutely trashes Max, no question.

Crying rn, is this a stomp?

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Crying rn, is this a stomp?

I regret to inform you that this is probably a stomp.

 

[Spinoirr]

Crying rn, is this a stomp?

Male Max fight Penny Polendina (Dragon Ball RWBY)

They're like, dead even in power lol

 

[Javenplayz253]

I regret to inform you that this is probably a stomp.

Sigh....

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Lol no way this is a stomp. Get Rayfire in here. He’ll argue for max properly

 

[Rayfire]

Lol no way this is a stomp. Get Rayfire in here. He’ll argue for max properly

With pleasure!

Max has the Help Trigger, which can make him stronger… that’s about all he really has going for him. Regeneration won’t be a problem since in the two videos were he’s reduced to ash, he only recovers in the next short, meaning the regeneration probably isn’t combat-applicable. Goku has significantly more skill, a viable long range attack option, a AP advantage, and stat amps to further that. Goku absolutely trashes Max, no question.

We give spongebob Low-Godly regen, even though he doesn't appear after being erased by the string until the next episode for example, same thing with max, so i think the regeneration is 100% legitimate, especially since it's listed as combat-applicable on his profile atm anyway

The help button does a lot more than stat amps brother...

The help button would allow max to close the skill gap, as it can make him so impossibly skilled at shooting a bow & arrow that it curves around the moon, hits a bunch of targets actually, before hitting an ez bullseye, so i think he'd be able to close the gap pretty easily

Via it's Probability Manipulation, It can also change the course of events to fit max's favor, which goku has zero defense against. I think as soon as max presses it goku is just dead because he doesn't have anything that even remotely indicates he can resist this sort of thing, he'd have to somehow defeat max before that happens

It also instantly defeats people that would stomp either max or nugget, like it did with evil max, so i think that's supporting evidence for the help button being a, well, win button for max

 

[Flowerguy2]

What are the AP's values between the two?

 

[Javenplayz253]

What are the AP's values between the two?

5.08117064774388E+30 Joules for Max
1.1832978274392e+32 J for Goku

 

[MintyBoi1]

Goku has multiple close and long ranged options to KO Max with plus the Kamehameha to get past his regeneration by reducing him to a few molecules. Even if Max closes the skill gap, he won’t be able to avoid being hit by ki blasts and physicals that easily since he can’t fly. Goku also has Senzu Beans if he’s one shot. Max’s only real chance is probability manipulation somehow making all of Goku’s attacks miss and his healing not work right but I’m not sure if it’s really that potent. The clip of beating Evil Max just has an object spawning in which Goku could avoid with flight.

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Goku has multiple close and long ranged options to KO Max with plus the Kamehameha to get past his regeneration by reducing him to a few molecules. Even if Max closes the skill gap, he won’t be able to avoid being hit by ki blasts and physicals that easily since he can’t fly. Goku also has Senzu Beans if he’s one shot. Max’s only real chance is probability manipulation somehow making all of Goku’s attacks miss and his healing not work right but I’m not sure if it’s really that potent. The clip of beating Evil Max just has an object spawning in which Goku could avoid with flight.

I second this.

 

[Rayfire]

Goku has multiple close and long ranged options to KO Max with plus the Kamehameha to get past his regeneration by reducing him to a few molecules. Even if Max closes the skill gap, he won’t be able to avoid being hit by ki blasts and physicals that easily since he can’t fly. Goku also has Senzu Beans if he’s one shot. Max’s only real chance is probability manipulation somehow making all of Goku’s attacks miss and his healing not work right but I’m not sure if it’s really that potent. The clip of beating Evil Max just has an object spawning in which Goku could avoid with flight.

Max can teleport seemingly at will, so if he spams that i think avoiding goku's attacks will be simple.

The help button has done way crazier stuff than just spawn things in before though, if it changes the literal course of events like it did here i don't see how gku gets around it

 

[MintyBoi1]

Max can teleport seemingly at will, so if he spams that i think avoiding goku's attacks will be simple.

The help button has done way crazier stuff than just spawn things in before though, if it changes the literal course of events like it did here i don't see how gku gets around it

Not sure if he’d use that in a fight and if he did Goku still far outranges him with ki blasts. This seems like Max has to get lucky with the help button to somehow immediately incapacitate Goku and not let him heal. That scan just has him making a guy get ratted on and trip which are pretty minor all things considered. I just don’t see that happening. Logically, there’s little that can be done besides amping Max to levels unseen before or letting him run away.

I’m voting Goku. He’s got enough skill and abilities to take out Max either before he uses the help button or recover and beat him after.

 

[Javenplayz253]

Not sure if he’d use that in a fight and if he did Goku still far outranges him with ki blasts. This seems like Max has to get lucky with the help button to somehow immediately incapacitate Goku and not let him heal. That scan just has him making a guy get ratted on and trip which are pretty minor all things considered. I just don’t see that happening. Logically, there’s little that can be done besides amping Max to levels unseen before or letting him run away.

I’m voting Goku. He’s got enough skill and abilities to take out Max either before he uses the help button or recover and beat him after.

Counted

 

[Rayfire]

Not sure if he’d use that in a fight and if he did Goku still far outranges him with ki blasts. This seems like Max has to get lucky with the help button to somehow immediately incapacitate Goku and not let him heal. That scan just has him making a guy get ratted on and trip which are pretty minor all things considered. I just don’t see that happening. Logically, there’s little that can be done besides amping Max to levels unseen before or letting him run away.

Never underestimate toon force, friend...

The help button has still been used plenty of times in combat before though, so i don't see why changing the course of events wouldn't be something that's out of the question in a fight. It's literal probability manipulation

Also, max seems to have all of his items here, which would include the Emoji gun 3000 and the love spray, both of which aren't something goku should resist either, so with the right emoji or with the love spray he could get goku to drop the fight entirely

• Empathic Manipulation, and Creation (With the Emoji gun 3000 and Love spray, can change emotions depending on the emoji As well as creating sunglasses for the Emoji gun. Should be self-explanatory for Love spray)

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Never underestimate toon force, friend...

The help button has still been used plenty of times in combat before though, so i don't see why changing the course of events wouldn't be something that's out of the question in a fight. It's literal probability manipulation

I implore you to find a video where the help trigger uses specifically probability hax in a combat situation and not a situation where Rodrick accidentally exposes himself as the thumbtack placer, pretty please

Also late to the conversation but

We give spongebob Low-Godly regen, even though he doesn't appear after being erased by the string until the next episode for example, same thing with max, so i think the regeneration is 100% legitimate, especially since it's listed as combat-applicable on his profile atm anyway

SpongeBob’s low-godly is combat applicable because he is actually shown to be able to regenerate instantly and not just in an unspecified amount of time offscreen. I’m not saying Max doesn’t have regeneration, I’m saying that it presumably takes some time so we can’t be entirely sure if it can factor into a fight (in fact, I might have something to say about in a future CRT). Max’s profile doesn’t say that it’s combat applicable, just that he can do it.

 

[Rayfire]

I implore you to find a video where the help trigger uses specifically probability hax in a combat situation and not a situation where Rodrick accidentally exposes himself as the thumbtack placer, pretty please

Here it is guiding nugget towards a path of victory against evil max. Here it is saving a scared max against evil max and coincidentally making nugget appear. Here it is giving max LS amps with seemingly no upper limit in what looks to be a boxing ring. Here it is saving max and nugget from evil max, whom they couldn't otherwise defeat.

The help button has been used plenty of times in deadly situations, there is simply no way it's probability manipulation isn't going to apply here when it has specifically beaten people who stomp max via Toon Force We can't just be ignoring something that's on the profile...

SpongeBob’s low-godly is combat applicable because he is actually shown to be able to regenerate instantly and not just in an unspecified amount of time offscreen. I’m not saying Max doesn’t have regeneration, I’m saying that it presumably takes some time so we can’t be entirely sure if it can factor into a fight (in fact, I might have something to say about in a future CRT). Max’s profile doesn’t say that it’s combat applicable, just that he can do it.

The help button can heal max anyway, so there's that

 

[Rayfire]

In any case, i'm gonna be voting max FRA over here, this is probability manipulation and toon force we are talking about...

 

[HonestlyBored24]

Here it is guiding nugget towards a path of victory against evil max. Here it is saving a scared max against evil max and coincidentally making nugget appear. Here it is giving max LS amps with seemingly no upper limit in what looks to be a boxing ring. Here it is saving max and nugget from evil max, whom they couldn't otherwise defeat.

The help button has been used plenty of times in deadly situations, there is simply no way it's probability manipulation isn't going to apply here when it has specifically beaten people who stomp max via Toon Force We can't just be ignoring something that's on the profile...

My brother in Christ, none of those are probability hax.

That is not being stupid, Summoning, Statistics Amplification, and Creation in that order.
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Your argument for probability hax applying in this scenario boils down to “it’d be stupid if it didn’t”, which is not a valid argument, especially since you are giving scans that show that the trigger does not do that in combat scenarios, it only does the above things. Also and I cannot stress this enough, the scan you gave for probability manipulation is Francis getting tattled on and tripping while trying to make a getaway. It is not that OP, bro

 

[Rayfire]

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Your argument for probability hax applying in this scenario boils down to “it’d be stupid if it didn’t”, which is not a valid argument, especially since you are giving scans that show that the trigger does not do that in combat scenarios, it only does the above things. Also and I cannot stress this enough, the scan you gave for probability manipulation is Francis getting tattled on and tripping while trying to make a getaway. It is not that OP, bro

That is a funny analogy lol

I don't know what to tell you then dude, it literally changes the course of events itself like the scan you are mentioning showed BECAUSE IT REQUIRED IT TO BE PRESSED BEFORE THINGS STARTED GOING SOUTH FOR BRO, and it is also used many times in dangerous situations, that is why it's listed on his profile as a legitimate ability, because it changes the outcomes of events like that only when it's pressed. Maybe javen can explain it better than me but i don't think it gets any more simple than that. You are heavily downplaying it's toon force-like effects as well

Nugget didn't even poof into existence like it normally does when the help button creates or summons something either. The most likely explanation is that he just happened to be nearby, and that's probability-related too. So if you need to see it in action during an actual deadly situation for max, there you go, done and done...

I mostly gave those specific scans to show that the help button does, in fact, work during situations where max is in grave danger, therefore logically toon force & probability manip should still apply in those same circumstances If what i think are clear showings of probability manipulation themselves aren't enough

Unless goku resists probability manipulation in the sense that changing the outcome of something (which is essentially what the help button does) doesn't work on him, i still have zero reason to believe he wins here, so i'll keep my vote on max

The help button isn't even max's only wincon either lol, you could make an argument for him winning even without being carried by the help button like usual with either these:

Empathic Manipulation, and Creation (With the Emoji gun 3000 and Love spray, can change emotions depending on the emoji As well as creating sunglasses for the Emoji gun. Should be self-explanatory for Love spray)

Goku doesn't resist these either ^

 

[Rayfire]

SpongeBob’s low-godly is combat applicable because he is actually shown to be able to regenerate instantly and not just in an unspecified amount of time offscreen.

Also, i was moreso referring to the fact that it's listed as a feat on his page even though the time of regenerating from being erased was unknown in that feat since the episode ended right after, same thing with max being turned to ash. Spongebob's other feats do make sense, but if that scan in particular had flaws with it just because the timeframe wasn't included, then why add it as supporting evidence?

 

[HonestlyBored24]

That is a funny analogy lol

I don't know what to tell you then dude, it literally changes the course of events itself like the scan you are mentioning showed BECAUSE IT REQUIRED IT TO BE PRESSED BEFORE THINGS STARTED GOING SOUTH FOR BRO, and it is also used many times in dangerous situations, that is why it's listed on his profile as a legitimate ability, because it changes the outcomes of events like that only when it's pressed. Maybe javen can explain it better than me but i don't think it gets any more simple than that. You are heavily downplaying it's toon force-like effects as well

Nugget didn't even poof into existence like it normally does when the help button creates or summons something either. The most likely explanation is that he just happened to be nearby, and that's probability-related too. So if you need to see it in action during an actual deadly situation for max, there you go, done and done...

I mostly gave those specific scans to show that the help button does, in fact, work during situations where max is in grave danger, therefore logically toon force & probability manip should still apply in those same circumstances If what i think are clear showings of probability manipulation themselves aren't enough

Unless goku resists probability manipulation in the sense that changing the outcome of something (which is essentially what the help button does) doesn't work on him, i still have zero reason to believe he wins here, so i'll keep my vote on max

The help button isn't even max's only wincon either lol, you could make an argument for him winning even without being carried by the help button like usual with either these:

Goku doesn't resist these either ^

I AM JUST SAYING THAT MAKING A BULLY GET EXPOSED FOR A PRANK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLAMED ON SOMEONE ELSE OTHERWISE IS NOT THE SAME AS MAKING OR BREAKING A FIGHT WITH LITERALLY SON GOKU

Now I am not entirely unreasonable. I see Max using the emoji gun thingy on Goku as a win condition, especially considering one of the things the help trigger does is make people more skilled at hitting targets. But I am just saying, I do not think probability manipulation will do much at this current point in time.

Also

Also, i was moreso referring to the fact that it's listed as a feat on his page even though the time of regenerating from being erased was unknown in that feat since the episode ended right after, same thing with max being turned to ash. Spongebob's other feats do make sense, but if that scan in particular had flaws with it just because the timeframe wasn't included, then why add it as supporting evidence?

Because it’s supported by other showings of SpongeBob clearly being able to regenerate, and Max does not have those clear showings of regeneration. Simple as that.

 

[MintyBoi1]

There are other scans showing SpongeBob coming back from nothing on screen unlike Max. The emoji gun and love potion are decent win cons even if I’m unsure of how likely Max would be to use them. But yeah I don’t think Max wins early game or late game enough times even with the probability manipulation given how minor it seems to be. It can beat Evil Max who vaguely stomps Max and Nugget, but Goku is over twenty times above Max here so the button may not be able to cross the gap. And even if it does, Senzu Beans.

 

[Rayfire]

I AM JUST SAYING THAT MAKING A BULLY GET EXPOSED FOR A PRANK THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN BLAMED ON SOMEONE ELSE OTHERWISE IS NOT THE SAME AS MAKING OR BREAKING A FIGHT WITH LITERALLY SON GOKU

Changing the outcome of events is changing the outcome of events

 

[Rayfire]

There are other scans showing SpongeBob coming back from nothing on screen unlike Max. The emoji gun and love potion are decent win cons even if I’m unsure of how likely Max would be to use them. But yeah I don’t think Max wins early game or late game enough times even with the probability manipulation given how minor it seems to be. It can beat Evil Max who vaguely stomps Max and Nugget, but Goku is over twenty times above Max here so the button may not be able to cross the gap. And even if it does, Senzu Beans.

I feel senzu beans will only really matter if Goku isn’t insta-killed

I really don’t see how the probability manipulation is minor lol, sure the scan makes it look kinda lame, but at the core it still clearly changes what happens next in max’s favor, the probability manipulation isn’t listed as ‘limited’ or ‘minor’ either. So it wouldn’t really matter if the help button doesn’t make max stronger, since goku still doesn’t resist probability manipulation anyway

 

[Rayfire]

Because it’s supported by other showings of SpongeBob clearly being able to regenerate, and Max does not have those clear showings of regeneration. Simple as that.

SpongeBob didn’t regenerate from being erased in that same episode either though, that’s what I mean. It’s still listed as a feat on his profile for regen, so why is max any different?