The Stranger vs Optimizer

[Christian_Higdon]

Speed Equalized.

Unification Key vs Nightmare Stranger with prep.

Battle is in a forest.

The Stranger has everything except the Supreme Armor.

Both are in-character.

Who wins?

Optimize: 0

Lunatic: 0

Inconclusive: 1

 

[ZeroTC01]

Kay, so what does Stranger lead with and how fast is it?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

He usually leads with brute force, but considering his key, he's likely to lead with either BFR, Death Manip or absorbing his soul.

 

[ZeroTC01]

How fast are these?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Well, all three are incredibly quick. BFR is opening a portal and kicking the sucker to wherever, his chainsaw's death manip takes time (up to 3 minutes), and that soul absorption is around a few seconds.

 

[ZeroTC01]

So Optimizer has time to react.

Ok, it relies on combat experience. Optimizer can dodge these, and he won't sit around for 3 minutes or a few seconds waiting for an attack.

He info analyzes with the press of a button, which would quickly give him the optimal combat strategy (and that would inform him of having to expect the multi-second soul hax). As a result, Optimizer freezes GG or goes for some form of incapacitation.

Any objections?

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Dude, a few seconds as in, like, 3. He literally opens his mouth and eats the soul, absorbing it. BFR is so simple in doing the attack, it's laughable

 

[ZeroTC01]

> Few seconds.

> 3 seconds

WeLL iF YoU hAd ThE eXacT TiMInG wHy DidN'T YoU TELL mE?

If it ain't dodgeable, Stranger FRA. But if it is... is it? He has to "eat" the soul, which implies he needs to be near Optimizer to actually soul-hax. And is it possible to survive? Given that he eats someone's soul, I doubt the latter.

I need to know 'bout the former, tho.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

I dunno. The clown normally BFRs to another dimension or BFRs to a time loop. He likes to be a bit of a jerk, so a time loop would be where he goes with it. Also, no, unless Optilizer can live without his soul. If so, The Stranger BFRs.

 

[ZeroTC01]

If Stranger BFRs, Optimizer himself time-haxes to undo it. He then has an opportunity to incapacitate Stranger or do whatever else he could. You could then argue Stranger would attempt to soul-hax, but it'd be too late by then. Optimizer'd be aware of it and prevent it.

If Stranger leads with soul-hax, he wins.

I dunno if a conflict of win conditions like this would be incon or not, though.

 

[Christian_Higdon]

Pretty sure he'd lead with either soul-hax or BFR, so I'm now slightly leaning with inconclusive.

 

[ZeroTC01]

I'm 100% inconclusive, then.

BFR's a win con for Optimizer, Soul-Hax is a win con for Stranger.