The Hydra (Twilight Forest) vs Alphys NEO

[Sans2345]

Both 7-C

speed equalized

win via death or KO

SBA

Alphys NEO: 0

The Hydra: 0

Inconclusive: 0





VS

 

[Peppypony]

Alphys NEO's profile page needs to be updated because many Undertale characters including Undyne got downgraded to 9-A (Thank **** for that).

And even if she was on the same level as The Hydra. Soul Hax GG.

 

[DnW0]

Alphys NEO's profile page needs to be updated because many Undertale characters including Undyne got downgraded to 9-A (Thank **** for that).
And even if she was on the same level as The Hydra. Soul Hax GG.

As far as I understand, you can't steal the Hydra's soul with an EnderIO Soul Vial so hydra should have resistence to soul manipulation

 

[Peppypony]

Alright thanks for correcting me on that.

But yeah, this still needs to be closed.

 

[Jinsye]

>using cross-mod scaling

no

 

[DnW0]

>using cross-mod scaling
no

Nothing wrong with that since the whole verse is "Modded Minecraft" and modpacks exist specifically to cross over mods

it's not compatibility it's code literally written to disable it, also given that you can virtually steal any unrelated modded entity with a soul vial.

Also you can't steal a Hydra soul with a Draconic Evolution Reaper enchantment either or instakill with a Nevermine Soul Spark

 

[Jinsye]

Yes but you see

This is the profile for The Hydra from Twilight Forest

not The Hydra from idunno, Hexxit or some modpack.

Which means only Twilight Forest is used.

 

[DnW0]

Yes but you see
This is the profile for The Hydra from Twilight Forest

not The Hydra from idunno, Hexxit or some modpack.

Which means only Twilight Forest is used.

Doesn't matter because the functions aren't exclusive to the modpack, and this is 1.12.2 which means isn't not Hexxit, Idunno, or Skyfactory 1-3. Advent of Ascension isn't even in any modpacks.

There also totally is infrigement for mods in Curse and if there were to be a specific function added to Twilight Forest, it would have to be included with an extended mod or config, which I don't have

 

[DnW0]

The Hydra being able to sense The Player in creative mode should also be an ability.

 

[Jinsye]

Other mods are non-canon to the actual canon of Twilight Forest. The lore of Twilight Forest doesn't have any spells that remove your soul.

Also creative mode isn't canon either.

 

[DnW0]

Other mods are non-canon to the actual canon of Twilight Forest. The lore of Twilight Forest doesn't have any spells that remove your soul.
Also creative mode isn't canon either.

if mods are their own canon then how are you going to judge RF, because that was first introduced in Thermal Expansion. RFTools and other mods don't even have generators because they are supposed to be used with Thermal Expansion. The entire Modded Minecraft is its own verse and all mods are supposed to be comparable

also, there is nothing that says creative mode isn't canon

generally there is nothing that says that the Hydra shouldn't have those abilities when they aren't things that are coded specifically for EnderIO and other mods, and are things that have been coded by the creator of Twilight Forest himself, just because there is nothing in Twilight Forest to express it doesn't mean it doesn't HAVE those abilities.

 

[Peppypony]

I'll uhhhh let you guys take it from it. You seem to know alot more about these mods than I do.

 

[Jinsye]

Mods like RFTools are very different from something like Twilight Forest. They are used as addons to another mod while Twilight Forest is it's own thing.

Creative Mode is never mentioned in the canon version of MC. The End Poem makes no reference to it, no source makes a reference to it in-lore. etc. We take it as a gameplay mechanic so players can do whatever they want.

 

[DnW0]

Mods like RFTools are very different from something like Twilight Forest. They are used as addons to another mod while Twilight Forest is it's own thing.
Creative Mode is never mentioned in the canon version of MC. The End Poem makes no reference to it, no source makes a reference to it in-lore. etc. We take it as a gameplay mechanic so players can do whatever they want.

J'zahar knowing that the Player is in creative mode, Voidcraft Dol and Zol referencing the Player's ability to use commands.

also, those mods clearly are not addons because nothing says that they are and the fact that the publishers don't publish them as a reference to another mod and that you don't even need to have Thermal Foundation to use most of them as long as you have another RF source.

 

[Moritzva]

You can't scale two completely different mods made by two different people. That's not how it works, at all.

 

[DnW0]

You can't scale two completely different mods made by two different people. That's not how it works, at all.

yes you can, they're from the same franchise, same game mechanics, same platform. That's also why modpacks and RF exist that combine multiple mods and the fact that certain mods need others to function. Nothing wrong with scaling them together because they aren't at all inconsistent

 

[Peppypony]

Can we just close this please? Because originally it was meant to be discussing who would win between Alphys NEO and The Hydra but Alphys NEO should be 9-A now because 7-C Undertale got downgraded to 9-A.

What you guys are talking about right now. Discuss somewhere else like maybe on another thread?

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

You can't scale mods of any game to each other unless they're in each others canon. That's about as dumb as scaling canon and non canon stories in the same franchise. Except even more dumb since now it's there's different authors.

Either way, close thread by Peppypony's reasoning. If someone gets to it.

 

[DnW0]

Funny because all mods are in eachother's canon, which is why modpacks exist

 

[Moritzva]

No they aren't, that's not how it works, modpacks can be made by completely different people. That's like saying I can add planes and tanks to versus battles wiki Minecraft since you can mod Minecraft to have them.

 

[Drag-O-Drawgon]

@DnW0 modpacks are made by various people and combine mods, but that does NOT mean that they're canon to each other as the canon of a mod is done with the mod alone, not a modpack. Modpacks are player created experiences of minecraft (or whatever game they're playing), not combinations of canons. By your logic, all characters in fiction are the same tier because M.U.G.E.N exists, and any character can be made for it.

General rule: a canon is the writing of the author, NOT what just happens to be because other people screwed with it. (except in rare cases like the SCP foundation, but this clearly isn't like that)

but now we're derailing, so continue this on a message wall if you really have to.

 

[DnW0]

I don't think you understand what a modpack is because in M.U.G.E.N you are creating completely different entities that have no relation to the original while the minecraft mods are adding on the original Mojang minecraft code, following the same rules of minecraft, they aren't like "their own franchises that have their own canons" when they literally leech off of the original minecraft code to even run. Going by your logic, Modded minecraft should be deleted off this fandom because "the original author writing" can't even function without a supporting mod or Minecraft as a base platform.

ThePixelKirby even further doesn't understand what I'm talking about because planes and tanks within minecraft mods are totally valid for profiles. Matter of factly, I can make Flansmod profiles any time I want.

end of discussion for now