The Flash vs Muzan

[Kachon123]

Muzan vs Barry Allen (Season 4)
Speed unequal
Fight takes place in Central City
Barry has help from Team Flash in his ear-comms

Muzan:
Flash:
Incon:

 

[JustANormalLemon]

So first things first, what value does their speeds scale too?
and how about AP?

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

So first things first, what value does their speeds scale too?
and how about AP?

from what I understand flash and muzan might both be in similar levels of ap and speed but not sure on exact values

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Looking at the profile flash without speed amp is 43290030.9352 m/s(he is 14.44% the speed of light)

mewhile Muzan I can only find a calc for Massively Hypersonic+ being 755.000m/s

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Mewhile muzan scales to

• Low 7-B characters scale to 2.93 Megatons of TNT or above 10x Zohakuten

Scales to this
while flash scales to this

• 4.184E+15 joules, baseline Low 7-B.

Putting both in joules Muzan scales to 1,2259e+18 joules
so Muzan has a 293,27751196172248803827751196172 ap advantage... okay Muzan AP stomps

also I found to what muzan actually scales

• Relativistic characters such as the strongest Hashiras and strongest Upper Moons upscale from 10x 2.499% SoL to 24.99% SoL

Idk what "% Sol" means trough

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Mewhile muzan scales to

• Low 7-B characters scale to 2.93 Megatons of TNT or above 10x Zohakuten

Scales to this
while flash scales to this

• 4.184E+15 joules, baseline Low 7-B.

Putting both in joules Muzan scales to 1,2259e+18 joules
so Muzan has a 293,27751196172248803827751196172 ap advantage... okay Muzan AP stomps

also I found to what muzan actually scales

• Relativistic characters such as the strongest Hashiras and strongest Upper Moons upscale from 10x 2.499% SoL to 24.99% SoL

Idk what "% Sol" means trough

percent comparable to the speed of light

so Muzan would be around 24.99% of the speed of light if I understand correctly

 

[ByArrow]

The CW Flash is undergoing an revision along with other Arrowverse characters and will no longer be at Low 7-B.

 

[Arkansalter2]

I expected arrow to pull up and say that.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

percent comparable to the speed of light

so Muzan would be around 24.99% of the speed of light if I understand correctly

So muzan has is 74918135.2542 m/s mewhile flash is 43290030.9352 m/s so muzan has a 1,7306094182825484764542936288089 times speed adavantage(Not mentioning Muzan up scales from this by A LOT)

The CW Flash is undergoing an revision along with other Arrowverse characters and will no longer be at Low 7-B.

It will become lower or higher?

anyway, Muzan AP stomps by a lot here and has the speed advantage(ironic) so even if the speed was equalized and we consider flash durability negation ability muzan regen would still make flash unable to kill him

so this is a big ass stomp

 

[ByArrow]

It will become lower or higher?

S4 Flash will scale to 16.45 megatons and MFTL+.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

S4 Flash will scale to 16.45 megatons and MFTL+.

Low 7-B characters scale to 2.93 Megatons of TNT or above 10x Zohakuten

So flash will have a around 5 times AP advantage(trough he massivaly upscale from that), thanks to regen I think this battle could work with speed equalized

 

[ByArrow]

So flash will have a around 5 times AP advantage(trough he massivaly upscale from that), thanks to regen I think this battle could work with speed equalized

Yes, the match can work, but besides these upgrades the flash will get a few more abilities, resistances and equipment, so for a proper discussion it's better to hold the match after the Flash revision is finished.

 

[Kachon123]

Alright, we'll resume this later then