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Swablu vs Temari
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Temari's 1st key gets stomped by an 8-A, her 3rd stomps an 8-A by being a 7-C, & her 2nd key is 8-B, but 8-A with her strongest attacks. The difference between baseline 8-B & baseline 8-A is around 9.1 times.
So Temari likely will mostly be getting rekt, depending on how far into 8-B she is & how far her strongest attacks & Swablu are into 8-A.
As for Swablu, while it has a general advantage in statistics, it doesn't have that much hax. However, it does have a mobility advantage via natural flight, & Temari's flight depends on her fan not being lost, destroyed or filled with too many holes; Even if she can fly with it full of holes via chakra, that's more Chakra she has to spend while fighting with a statistical disadvantage most of the time?
What can Temari's summoned weasel do?
In terms of intelligence & range, they're evenly matched, but Temari's "extremely high" stamina may be better than Swablu's "high".
Swablu's biggest issues are:
1. The risk of it choosing the wrong moves, which may not come up with Pokemon generally having a good idea of how to battle.
2. Having several moves that don't provide as much range versus Temari; Someone who uses wind to attack & push opponents away; Changing the wind while greatly hinder Swablu's approach.
3. As sound waves are vibrations in the air, Temari's attacks not only hinder Swablu's flight, but could distort the sound for its attacks. Although, in most cases, they may not be on the same level of power. Will the power of their attacks influence how much blasts or slices of air can distort sound vibrations?
"Bad" moves here seem to be:
Mostly because they require Swablu getting in melee range: Peck, Astonish (Flinching requires speed advantage, IIRC.), Fury Attack.
Also, Take Down, which deals recoil damage to the user (Swablu) equal to 25% of the damage Take Down deals to the attack's victim.
Safeguard, Mist, & Refresh seem useless, because AFAIK, Temari doesn't inflict status conditions, nor lower stats, making those 3 moves pointless.
Natural Gift, which can only be used once... by throwing a berry. Useless if there aren't any berries from the Pokemon world in the battlefield (Like Hyrule Field) for Swablu to use, & that's a whole other can of worms (or a can of fruit?) to give Swablu access to.
"Good" moves:
Growl. Dependent on the target finding the user cute, & sound-based, but lowering the opponent's AP can be very good, especially early on, & with the already existing difference in power, Swablu might be able to make Temari unable to physically damage it with enough Growling. However, it only affects physical offenses; Will Growl weaken Temari's wind attacks?
Cotton Guard. "The user protects itself by wrapping its body in soft cotton, which drastically raises the user's Defense stat." Using the game's percentages, +2 DEF is double the DEF you normallyhave. So long as Swablu can keep that cotton on, it could increase its Durability by its durability value with each use of Cotton Guard, up to 400% of its starting value.
Moonblast. Not only is it range not dependent on sound, but it has a 3-in-10 chance of lowering Temari's "Special" (non-physical) AP when it hits.
Mirror Move, for letting Swablu hit Temari back with her own wind attacks. Even if they end up being weaker (be it by being based on Swablu or Temari's AP or having their own level of power or some combination of those.) it's still more range not dependent on sound, although, it IS based on Swablu's opponent (Temari); Most tactics that depends on your opponent doing what you want aren't too reliable.
Disarming Voice. "Letting out a charming cry, the user does emotional damage to opposing Pokémon. This attack never misses."
Besides being undodgeable, the emotional damage it does might help hinder Temari in fighting, along with Growl's cuteness to make Swablu endearing. But this is a very minor advantage, & lol sound against air manipulation.
Sing, since, if it hits, Temari is temporarily incapacitated to be attacked, have her fan stolen or destroyed, etc.
Perish Song is dubious; It requires Temari hearing it. If started during a wind attack powerful/large enough to disrupt it & not done long enough, Temari might not hear it, & Swablu might doom only itself.
However, it's likely to work as intended since Temari might not always be attacking & there's no guarantee she can fully disrupt it or know that she needs to other than it being another sound attack.
It's useful because Swablu seems to have a statistical advantage against Temari most of the time; Meaning if Swablu can realize it's losing in time to set it off, it can at least have a good chance to force a draw when its other advantages don't help it.
Lastly, Round & Dragon Pulse are useful for being range. Round's secondary effect (Each use of Round doubling in power for each instance of someone using it in one "round"/"turn", but the power goes back to normal afterwards; Useless in 1vs1 & I doubt Temari can sing like Swablu. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
Dragon Pulse is useful just for being another range option not based on sound. (Unless being a shock wave is enough.)
Overall, Swablu has the AP advantage when Temari isn't using her strongest attacks, & that also means its 8-A Durability is probably better than hers. In a damage race, it will likely win as long as it doesn't absentmindedly choose some of the "bad" moves listed above; Even if Temari's strongest attacks end up having better power behind them than Swablu's durability/AP, spamming them will probably tire her out.
Not to mention Growl & Cotton Guard, if they work can amp Swablu's physical durability, & a Moonblast that hits, 30% of the time, will weaken Temari's non-physical AP in addition to doing damage.
In terms of mobility, Swablu has natural flight while Temari's flight depends on her fan -which is bad if it gets lost, too damaged, or destroyed- but her air manipulation could screw with Swablu's wing-based flight. (Although Swablu can copy it when she uses it via Mirror Move.) It's a toss-up there, IMHO.
I don't know about what her weasel can do nor its statistics. Overall, I'm not sure how to vote here. There's a lot of things I'm not clear on.
So Temari likely will mostly be getting rekt, depending on how far into 8-B she is & how far her strongest attacks & Swablu are into 8-A.
As for Swablu, while it has a general advantage in statistics, it doesn't have that much hax. However, it does have a mobility advantage via natural flight, & Temari's flight depends on her fan not being lost, destroyed or filled with too many holes; Even if she can fly with it full of holes via chakra, that's more Chakra she has to spend while fighting with a statistical disadvantage most of the time?
What can Temari's summoned weasel do?
In terms of intelligence & range, they're evenly matched, but Temari's "extremely high" stamina may be better than Swablu's "high".
Swablu's biggest issues are:
1. The risk of it choosing the wrong moves, which may not come up with Pokemon generally having a good idea of how to battle.
2. Having several moves that don't provide as much range versus Temari; Someone who uses wind to attack & push opponents away; Changing the wind while greatly hinder Swablu's approach.
3. As sound waves are vibrations in the air, Temari's attacks not only hinder Swablu's flight, but could distort the sound for its attacks. Although, in most cases, they may not be on the same level of power. Will the power of their attacks influence how much blasts or slices of air can distort sound vibrations?
"Bad" moves here seem to be:
Mostly because they require Swablu getting in melee range: Peck, Astonish (Flinching requires speed advantage, IIRC.), Fury Attack.
Also, Take Down, which deals recoil damage to the user (Swablu) equal to 25% of the damage Take Down deals to the attack's victim.
Safeguard, Mist, & Refresh seem useless, because AFAIK, Temari doesn't inflict status conditions, nor lower stats, making those 3 moves pointless.
Natural Gift, which can only be used once... by throwing a berry. Useless if there aren't any berries from the Pokemon world in the battlefield (Like Hyrule Field) for Swablu to use, & that's a whole other can of worms (or a can of fruit?) to give Swablu access to.
"Good" moves:
Growl. Dependent on the target finding the user cute, & sound-based, but lowering the opponent's AP can be very good, especially early on, & with the already existing difference in power, Swablu might be able to make Temari unable to physically damage it with enough Growling. However, it only affects physical offenses; Will Growl weaken Temari's wind attacks?
Cotton Guard. "The user protects itself by wrapping its body in soft cotton, which drastically raises the user's Defense stat." Using the game's percentages, +2 DEF is double the DEF you normallyhave. So long as Swablu can keep that cotton on, it could increase its Durability by its durability value with each use of Cotton Guard, up to 400% of its starting value.
Moonblast. Not only is it range not dependent on sound, but it has a 3-in-10 chance of lowering Temari's "Special" (non-physical) AP when it hits.
Mirror Move, for letting Swablu hit Temari back with her own wind attacks. Even if they end up being weaker (be it by being based on Swablu or Temari's AP or having their own level of power or some combination of those.) it's still more range not dependent on sound, although, it IS based on Swablu's opponent (Temari); Most tactics that depends on your opponent doing what you want aren't too reliable.
Disarming Voice. "Letting out a charming cry, the user does emotional damage to opposing Pokémon. This attack never misses."
Besides being undodgeable, the emotional damage it does might help hinder Temari in fighting, along with Growl's cuteness to make Swablu endearing. But this is a very minor advantage, & lol sound against air manipulation.
Sing, since, if it hits, Temari is temporarily incapacitated to be attacked, have her fan stolen or destroyed, etc.
Perish Song is dubious; It requires Temari hearing it. If started during a wind attack powerful/large enough to disrupt it & not done long enough, Temari might not hear it, & Swablu might doom only itself.
However, it's likely to work as intended since Temari might not always be attacking & there's no guarantee she can fully disrupt it or know that she needs to other than it being another sound attack.
It's useful because Swablu seems to have a statistical advantage against Temari most of the time; Meaning if Swablu can realize it's losing in time to set it off, it can at least have a good chance to force a draw when its other advantages don't help it.
Lastly, Round & Dragon Pulse are useful for being range. Round's secondary effect (Each use of Round doubling in power for each instance of someone using it in one "round"/"turn", but the power goes back to normal afterwards; Useless in 1vs1 & I doubt Temari can sing like Swablu. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.)
Dragon Pulse is useful just for being another range option not based on sound. (Unless being a shock wave is enough.)
Overall, Swablu has the AP advantage when Temari isn't using her strongest attacks, & that also means its 8-A Durability is probably better than hers. In a damage race, it will likely win as long as it doesn't absentmindedly choose some of the "bad" moves listed above; Even if Temari's strongest attacks end up having better power behind them than Swablu's durability/AP, spamming them will probably tire her out.
Not to mention Growl & Cotton Guard, if they work can amp Swablu's physical durability, & a Moonblast that hits, 30% of the time, will weaken Temari's non-physical AP in addition to doing damage.
In terms of mobility, Swablu has natural flight while Temari's flight depends on her fan -which is bad if it gets lost, too damaged, or destroyed- but her air manipulation could screw with Swablu's wing-based flight. (Although Swablu can copy it when she uses it via Mirror Move.) It's a toss-up there, IMHO.
I don't know about what her weasel can do nor its statistics. Overall, I'm not sure how to vote here. There's a lot of things I'm not clear on.
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