Son Goku (3-A) vs Surtur (3-A)

[AnimeFanboy2916]

Speed Equalized. Fight to the death or KO, who wins?

FASTER THAN TIME

 

[Frenchie-123]

goku , bcuz he have more abilities

 

[Lawd_Obito]

Always wanted to make that fight.

Anyway, Goku has a time limit but for once, he's outhaxing his opponent. Being physically equal to Surtur and having the benefice of instant transmission and the likes gives him the win.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm with them. Surtur is not varied, as opposed to Goku. That's what gives him the win.

 

[SSJ4Hiei]

Goku's techniques give him the win.

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

How is Goku varied? He only knows how to punch, kick and use ki blasts. Don't get me wrong Goku wins, but still, saying Goku is varied is quite wrong TBH.

 

[Geova2507]

Goku wins by having more abilities

 

[Lawd_Obito]

How is Goku varied? He only knows how to punch, kick and use ki blasts. Don't get me wrong Goku wins, but still, saying Goku is varied is quite wrong TBH.

Well, IT is a huge plus in that match, since speed is equallized, he can evade Surtur's attacks, pull a old move and teleport over to him with a Kamehameha ready, can make it looks like he's going to punch Surtur's face only to teleport behind him and strike his back.

Also, his oft-forgotten Solar Flare. Surtur has magic, which can do plenty of things, but Goku being able to "outspeed" him is a huge plus, especially because he lacks knowledge on it and Goku won't dick around.

 

[Yojimbo1989]

Whilst I hate battles with speed equalized, I agree that Goku wins this one. He's far more skilled as a fighter, IT gives him the ability to control the battle and he has much more verstitle techniques in combat.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

first of all is surtur only universal?

cuz iirc goku the 3-A versions wud be like up to 5x base universe level at least

 

[Yojimbo1989]

Maybe, there is quite a large range for 3-A after all

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

first of all is surtur only universal?
cuz iirc goku the 3-A versions wud be like up to 5x base universe level at least

Hmm... I'm not sure about him being that high on the universal scale. In fact, shouldn't he be like, barely universal? Not saying that he's not 3-A though, as he clearly is, and I still think that Goku would win.

 

[AnimeFanboy2916]

Goku: 7

Surtur: 0

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

i mean if surtur is "just universal"

then he will deinitely lose

much slower than goku and goku is likely at least "5 x barely universal" as ssgss

so i think goku wins

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

Doesn't look like Surtur has many hax from what I found in research, quite strange. He could fit very well in DBS for that reason

Given his pathetic speed, Goku blitzes him. I want to see if anybody can show me impressive hax that Surtur possess. I vote for Goku

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

sooo is this like 8:0 for goku by now?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Yeah TLT1. Goku will be at...I think 14 wins now?

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

idk

this one isnt added as of now

 

[Faisal_Shourov]

I guess we could wait a little more to see if anybody has good scans, but what I found from his respect thread is just galaxy-multi galaxy level explosions (quite a lot of feats, but just explosions nevertheless). Nothing impressive really, no impressive hax to speak of

 

[AnimeFanboy2916]

Yeah TLT1. Goku will be at...I think 14 wins now?

If this is added, it'll be 13.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

i think that soon some of his wins and loses might need to be cleared

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Seeing how a good amount of them are from massive speedblitz, I agree. I even tried to do something about it a while back.

 

[Legion350]

Goku wins, I don't think surtur is that skilled.

 

[Xantospoc22]

Wait, is Goku beating a 3-A Marvel Character?

Color me impressed

 

[Legion350]

Wait, is Goku beating a 3-A Marvel Character?
Color me impressed

This might be a miracle

 

[KazarianFahs]

I guess,i'll play the devil's advocate here then?since this is quite a stomp

So,there are actually two beings that even ODIN(a frigging skyfather) can't defeat and actually sometimes,stated to be stronger than him,Ymir and surtur.surtur is prophesised to one day cross bitfrost and destroy entire asgard singlehandedly.At Times,surtur has fought entire asgardians alone(includes peak thor(non odin force) and odin),and the best they could do is BFR him.Yea............. i guess the result comes down to If goku can beat a peak Odin(marvel) since surtur is stated to be stronger than even peak odin.

 

[Legion350]

I guess,i'll play the devil's advocate here then?since this is quite a stomp
So,there are actually two beings that even ODIN(a frigging skyfather) can't defeat and actually sometimes,stated to be stronger than him,Ymir and surtur.surtur is prophesised to one day cross bitfrost and destroy entire asgard singlehandedly.At Times,surtur has fought entire asgardians alone(includes peak thor(non odin force) and odin),and the best they could do is BFR him.Yea............. i guess the result comes down to If goku can beat a peak Odin(marvel) since surtur is stated to be stronger than even peak odin.

Does surtur have any of peak odin's hax?

 

[KazarianFahs]

No idea,he did fight on par and according to stories told by asgardians even overpowered odin,and made him need other asgardians to simply BFR him,if you ask me,that's some impressive Hax resistance,and we have yet to see surtur suffer any injuries or any of the sort when fighting entire pantheons of gods.

 

[Legion350]

I think Goku is stronger than Odin but lacks hax resistance while surtur has no hax for goku.

 

[Superkryptonian]

I would also go with goku since he has more abilities and surtur has no hax to help him.

 

[KazarianFahs]

Again as i have already pointed out,surter is practically on the higher end of the skyfather or even beyond the skyfather spectrum,since he fought and matched Odin at his peak and the entire asgardian army,alone,and they would have lost of they didn't BFR him,Also in another battle,Thor,odin and Loki were losing against surtur till they BFR'ed him.

 

[Cropfist]

Surtur via experience, versatiltiy and transmuation.

 

[Beerus1000]

goku via better skills

 

[KillitwithC4]

Goku should win this for Beerus1000's reasons.