Skylor vs Quote

[Yobo_Blue]

Since Quote can apparently fight Moro on even ground, let's see how he does against copy girl at her peak.

Creation and Destruction are NOT restricted

Skylor (Ninjago) vs Quote

Speed Equal

SBA

Who wins?

 

[GyroNutz]

That lego has a lot of hax lol.

Two questions. What does she lead with, and is her 7-B stuff restricted (ik you said SBA but just checking)?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

She generally spams Smoke and Shadow with basic offensive stuff first.

No, but she almost never uses it.

 

[GyroNutz]

Surprisingly, Quote does have the range advantage. Two of his weapons won't do much due to Skylor's resistances, but his more commonly used weapons (missiles + polar star) will be effective. Flight allows Quote to keep the range advantage, and if Skylor tries to sneak up on Quote, then Blade will likely catch her off-guard.

I'll wait for more input tho, since I'm not really knowledgable on Ninjago

 

[Yobo_Blue]

She can levitate with Gravity tho

 

[GyroNutz]

It's more that, Quote's type of flight allows him to gain momentum while shooting his enemy at the same time.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

That's fair. Tho Skylor can use gravity to reflect it

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Dang, the APs are nearly exactly the same.

At a face value, I think Quote's range advantage seems to be pretty solid for now. He is well outside of Skylor's range for any of his more potent abilities like his Mind Reading/Headache inducing as well as, well, Creation and Destruction. I feel as if Quote will try and keep distance once he sees how the amount of destruction going on near Skylor, and whittle him down with ranged attacks eventually.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

So is that a vote for quote?

 

[Starter_Pack]

(inhales sharply) Okay, to start off, let me go through all of Skylor's abilities to see what can be effective against Quote in this fight.

Power Mimicry and Power Nullification: Quote gets the majority of his skills and powers from different weapons. They don't come from him like the Elemental Masters, and this is therefore is not really eligible in this fight.

Fire Manipulation: Quote outranges. However, this may make his Fireball ineffective, especially when compounded onto her resistance to Fire Manipulation. So, at least she knocked out a weapon. However, Quote does have the Bubbline to counter the Fire Element, so that helps Quote a bit.

Electricity Manipulation and Hacking: First off, where does Skylor get Hacking from? The only thing that Jay has on Hacking is his Techno Blade, a speciallized tool designed for the purpose of hacking. This should probably be removed from her profile, unless there is an instance where either she or Jay hacked something without the Techno Blade. As for her lightning, even if she were in range with it, Quote has been shown to dodge lightning from Ballos, so this should be about the same thing here.

Ice Manipulation: Quote outranges, plus he could probably counter and dispell it with Fireball, so that weapon would still be pretty helpful for this.

Earth Manipulation: Admittedly pretty effective at blocking a lot of Quote's attacks by putting up a stone wall. However, Snake can get around this and Super Missile could potentially blast through with pure firepower, so this is a temporary solution at best.

Energy Manipulation: Quote can mostly stay out of the range of any energy blasts, and Snake can probably get around any energy barriers Skylor may put up. However, it is a pretty good ability, as this one compares to Lloyd who could outmatch the four main ninjas very early on with his element, and will probably give Quote a bit of trouble.

Metal Manipulation and Statistics Amplification: This ability could actually prove to be more of a hindrance to Skylor than any help. While this does boost the power of her physical attacks, this will also cause her to slow down and be an easier target for Quote. Plus, while it might be in Karlof's nature to try to endure it while trying to get closer to Quote, I'd imagine Skylor would think it best to try something else. (Though, does the Metal Manipulation work on anything besides the user? Because Quote is a robot, and could probably be hindered if the Metal Element can do this.)

Light Manipulation and Invisibility: This would actually be pretty useful for Skylor. While I'm not sure how fast or effective the light attacks are, the invisibility would be wonderfully handy to get the drop on Quote. This could be one of the few ways she could sneak up on Quote to deal some damage. This ability doesn't seem to have a counter from Quote's side either. However, again, this is only a temporary solution, as utilizing any other abilities while she has this power active would take a heavy toll on body.

Superhuman Speed: Not sure if this even really counts due to speed equalization, but I'll just take it as a little boost in speed which could help Skylor dodge and close the gap on Quote. Perhaps not anything due to speed equal, but something to note in case it is valid.

Smoke Manipulation and Elemental Intangibility: Again, a pretty useful ability for Skylor, likely able to avoid the majority of Quote's arsenal by turning into smoke. Unfortunately, she can't really do much with this ability besides avoiding Quote's attacks, and combining her elements would, again, cause her to become exhausted.

Mind Manipulation, Precognition and Telepathy: I'm not entirely sure if she could read Quote's mind due to him essentially being a machine, but let's just assume she does for the sake of simplicity. Not only would Quote probably not let her get close enough to read his thoughts and implant suggestions or headaches (unless she approaches with the aforementioned invisibility and manages to hide herself well enough to do this), but the distance Quote can fire from essentially makes the Precognition unusable for Skylor's case. She may as well just turn to smoke than try to read Quote's mind from that distance to avoid his projectiles.

Gravity Manipulation, Flight, Pseudo-telekinesis and Attack Reflection: Actually, a really good ability for Skylor. She could likely keep up with Quote, and a lot of his attacks like his Bubbline or Super Missiles could likely be redirected back at him thanks to the Gravity Manipulation. Probably one of Skylor's best counters to Quote, although elemental attacks like Nemesis or Fireball, and even Blade, could bypass this. And while she had a resistance to the elemental attacks, the Blade may prove an issue.

Plant Manipulation: Fairly useless for Skylor's needs, as Quote can easily dispatch any plants she may try to use with either Blade or Fireball. Plus, with his Flight, it should be easy enough to avoid this in the first place.

Sound Manipulation and Extrasensory Perception: Not sure exactly how the echolocation from this ability would help her at all, unless Quote somehow blinds her and she needs some way to see, but the Sound Manipulation could prove useful as a pseudo barrier to attacks like the Super Missile, causing it to explode before it hits, as well as a distraction so she can set something else up. However, Quote's lightning dodging feat probably means he could deftly avoid the majority of any sound blast sent his way.

Poison Manipulation: Quote is a robot, and hence, shouldn't really be effected by clouds of poison that much. This would be a waste of time for Skylor to even try, and may actually hurt her, since she may actually end up trying it at one point due to Quote actually looking like a person, especially from afar where he would likely end up shooting from.

Darkness Manipulation and Teleportation: By far, her best distance closer for Quote. Being able to transport herself through the shadows would be extremely helpful to her to get near enough to Quote to allow her to utilize some of her other techniques. There really isn't a downside to using the Shadow Element against Quote in this way. However, this is Central Park, and if Quote can knock down enough trees in the area if he figures out her shadow strategy, this could prove troublesome for Skylor.

Shapeshifting: Probably not going to be of any real help to her. She could potentially turn into some random person and try to trick Quote, which would probably work. However, this seems a bit out of character for her, so I don't think she'd stoop so low as this.

Creation, Matter Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Transmutation, Life Manipulation, Forcefield Creation, possibly Time Manipulation, Water Manipulation and Air Manipulation: Not applicable due to AP advantage, thankfully. (Unless it is applicable, in which case, she could probably create weapons and vehicles to close the gap on Quote, or just crush him to nothing.)

Illusion Creation: This would wear her out, but it would probably be an effective move, possibly allowing her to get the jump on Quote. However, his distance advantage would help him not be as vulnerable to being taken advantage of with the illusion.

Non-Physical Interaction: Not really helpful here.

Resistance to Earth Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Poison Manipulation and Absorption: Basically helpful with Quote's Fireball, Nemesis and possibly his Snake, and that's about it.

So, after that huge compilation of Quote's reaction to her abilities, here's my analysis. Out of all of the Elements that Skylor has collected over the years, aside from Creation and Destruction of course, several stood out highly in Skylor's favor. Namely, the Elements of Energy, Light, Smoke, Gravity, Sound, and especially Shadow. Smoke can allow her to avoid all of Quote's attacks, Energy and Sound can help block a lot of Quote's attacks, Gravity can help redirect some of Quote's projectiles back at him, and Light and Shadow can help her go unseen by Quote and attempt to get the drop on him. All in all, some pretty good techniques to potentially take him down.

However, unfotunately for Skylor, her biggest downfall will likely be her stamina. You see, being a robot, Quote is already superior to Skylor in terms of endurance. And with Quote's extremely impressive arsenal, his Booster, and even the Life Pot in case he really gets into trouble, he would have no problem staying in the battle and avoiding Skylor's attacks, while simultaneously keeping the ninja on her toes. Plus, if she attempts to combine her elements to try to get the drop on Quote, such as the Illusion Creation for one example, then she would become winded even faster due to the heavy toll this kind of action would take. Eventually, she's going to run out of steam, and even if she tries to escape, Quote has a good scope of the environment thanks to his Map System, and would probably be able to find her again and keep the pressure on.

Now, don't get me wrong, this would be a very intense battle, with both characters being able to counter each other with their different techniques and battle styles. However, due to his better stamina, range, and offensive variety, as well as the Whimsical Stars which provides Quote a good overall defensive barrier, I am going to give this to Quote with very high difficulty. But, again, this is a very tough battle for the both of them and could lean either way. (Unless Skylor gets Creation and Destruction. Then Quote would be in for a world of hurt.)

Winner: Quote

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I mean, it's not restricted, but for sure the last thing she uses

 

[GyroNutz]

Ok I'm convinced now, Quote FRA

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Also, hacking comes from a jay using lightning to hack all of Ninjago city's screens to display ads for Wu's tea shop. Take that as you will

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I mean, it's not restricted, but for sure the last thing she uses

I'll put it in the op

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Also, mind does have a higher range. I don't know by how much tho.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Being a last resort, then, she could potentially use it when she is basically on her last legs, but this would be enough to tackle some of Quote's advantages. She can use her Creation powers to form weapons and vehicles to quickly close the gap on Quote and put intense pressure on him, and Destruction could potentially catch Quote in a death grip. However, he does have certain solutions to these that could, amazingly, still give him the win. For starters, the Snake would be one of his best friends here, being able to bypass any shields or barriers Skylor could put up, and the Bubbline may actually get some extra use, as Quote just has to hold the trigger and can direct the shots to go in any direction he wishes. So, if he finds himself in the death grip, he may be able to stop Skylor with his Bubbline. Now, granted, this puts this match on the verge of being Inconclusive, but I still believe that Quote could somehow pull it off, but barely and very nearly dead himself.

The Hacking does seem justified, then, and since Quote may have a similar build to Zane, it is possible for her to pull this off, maybe. However, it would seem a little out of character for her to do it unless she both figures out Quote's a robot and gets a chance to do it (which she could do via Shadow). In which case, that could potentially help her take on Quote. And if the Mind is able to reach Quote, she could distract him and cause him headaches, as well as reading where he's going to fire and avoiding it, which would add another layer of trouble for Quote.

Let me tell you, I'm still going to say Quote for the rest of the reasons I explained, but I am almost about to say Inconclusive due to the varying factors involved.

 

[DMB_1]

Uhmm... Why does Skylor possess the Elements of Wind, Water, Time and Creation... If she never copied them form their respective Elemental Masters?

Those abilities should be listed as potentially, since we know she can copy them, but/copied she never possessed them in the first place.

Besides, using Destruction almost killed her.

 

[Starter_Pack]

Uhmm... Why does Skylor possess the Elements of Wind, Water, Time and Creation... If she never copied them form their respective Elemental Masters?
Those abilities should be listed as potentially, since we know she can copy them, but/copied she never possessed them in the first place.

Besides, using Destruction almost killed her.

Huh. Really? Well, in that case, than Destruction may truly be a last resort for her, and she may not even activate it due to the trauma she went through the first time she attempted it. May end up picking up a few notches for Quote there with that and the whole maybe on the other elements there.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Uhmm... Why does Skylor possess the Elements of Wind, Water, Time and Creation... If she never copied them form their respective Elemental Masters?

Those abilities should be listed as potentially, since we know she can copy them, but/copied she never possessed them in the first place.

Besides, using Destruction almost killed her.

She copied creation from garmadon. Feel free to remove the others, but I'm sure creation let's you use those to some degree, so possibly is good

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I'll be writing a rebuttal anyhow

 

[Yobo_Blue]

AP: Skylor actually has a slight advantage due to Morro's feat being casual and Skylor being slightly above the ninja. Not much, but it's a help.

Amber: Agreed

Fire: Agreed

Electricity: Having dodged lightning before does not mean that Quote dodging lightning is more likely, especially in speed equal. He's bound to get it by at least one, which could be catastrophic for him.

Ice: Fire would work, though it's a lot less useful due to being bursts compared to a continuous stream.

Earth: Unless the super missile is wildly above Quotes own abilities, earth should be somewhat successful in blocking it.

Energy: Agreed.

Metal: The Element of Metal doesn't make the user slower, and even if it did Skylor's immense mobility advantage with other Elements would cover it.

Light: Now would be a good time to mention that Skylor's element combination is a separate technique. Using two elements at the same time won't drain her stamina. It's directly combining things like Light and Shadow that takes its toll

Speed: Speed boosts are actually valid in speed equal threads now.

Smoke: Agreed except for exhaustion for reasons I've already stated.

Mind: Mind actually has a bit of a longer range then other elements, so that could catch him off guard for sure.

Gravity: Gravity affects elements just as much as anything else though. It's not like fire is immune to the effects of the laws of nature.

Plant: Agreed, though the plants can grow pretty high, fire is a good counter.

Sound: Speed is equal though, so lightning dodging doesn't mean much.

Poison: Agreed

Shadow: Even then, turning into shadow will allow her to avoid his attacks, and trees definitely are not the only things casting shadows in Central Park.

Shapeshifting: Agreed.

Creation and Destruction: Applicable. That said, it's probably her last move. It does tire her, but that was after a while playing tug of war against Lord Garmadon for control of the Colossi, and even then she managed to gain control of it for a good while.

Skill-wise, Skylor also has another advantage in that she has enough skill to match the ninja, who have been fighting evil for years and have matched some of the most well trained and skilled martial artists and warriors many times. They have a incredible amount of prowess in martial arts, something that Quote can't really match.

Take that as you will tho.

 

[DMB_1]

I don't remember Garmadon being stated to have gained Creation tho.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

He did. Tho I don't have the scan, so maybe post a question for the Ninjagon Admins.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Yeah, I voted for quote.

 

[DMB_1]

The Element of the Mind's range is '''well''' over a few kilometers though.

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

The Element of the Mind's range is well over a few kilometers though.

Range: Multiple meters with powers, higher with Creation and Destruction

Should probably be updated on the page, although I'd like to see some evidence.

 

[DMB_1]

Basically, Neuro, the master of the Mind, was able to communicate telepathically with all of the other elemental masters when they were all scattered in various parts of Ninjago.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Oh yeah, I'm dumb. I forgot to write that in.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Mind grabbing a scan tho? My internet is giving me issues

 

[DMB_1]

Besides, I'm pretty sure that most Elemental Master's range are around a few dozens of meters anyway.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

I don't remember Garmadon being stated to have gained Creation tho.

"The blood of both Oni and Dragon flow within you. You have the power to create, and destroy."

Harumi's quote on true potential Garmadon