Shadow of the Colossus: Downgrade Edition

[Cyberblader90]

Wander (Shadow of The Colossus) | VS Battles Wiki | Fandom
Speed: "Subsonic to Massively Hypersonic (Can dodge lightning on his horse)"

I can find no instance of this in game. At best the only comparable thing is this:


Reacting or avoiding this electricity. This doesnt really qualify for lighting standards. At best you could argue this as ball lightning, which is documented to move at a measly 1 to 3 m/s
Source:
Ball lightning - Wikipedia
Periodically I hear stories about ball lightning. Does this phenomenon really exist? Could a ball of plasma remain stable for several seconds, as some researchers have claimed? - Scientific American

I'm assuming subsonic is from reacting to Avion, who is currently listed as Subsonic. (From this calc). This should only be for reaction speed, not his travel speed.

Wander scales to the other Colossi, who are listed as "superhuman" for speed. I'm fine with him being listed as this for movement, unless there are issues with this I am not aware of.

Tdlr, speed should be:

Speed: Superhuman movement (Can keep pace with colossi, such as Pelagia), with Subsonic reactions (Can react to Avion) | Superhuman (Should be as fast as the Colossi)

Edit:
Avion's calc is inflated. In game avion actually goes about 15 m/s:
Shadow of the Colossus PS4 5th Colossus Gameplay Walkthrough - Celosia (Performance Mode 60fps) - YouTube

Using the mass given in Avion's accepted calc, that is about 0.0437 tons of tnt for KE, which scales to wander's durability.

Small Building

This basically downgrades every colossus until we get new calcs for them.
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So we have a few options.
We can go for athletic/peak human speed for Wander, Superhuman reactions for reacting to Avion. Every character gets shifted down to small building for ap and durability for the time being.

Or we can wait till calcs get done. A few options were suggested here:

https://vsbattles.com/threads/8-c-wander.42226/

 

[Armorchompy]

I agree with the downgrade, idk about Superhuman, though. You can clearly see him move at more or less human speed compared to most the Colossi, which aren't very fast, with the exceptions of those that are, and that you can't keep up with.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Superhuman weirdly enough is on their profiles. You could make an arguments he should be slower than his horse, so there is that.
Do you have a recommendation

 

[Cyberblader90]

Should mention, this was actually brought up a while back, but never applied:

https://vsbattles.com/threads/8-c-wander.42226/

 

[Armorchompy]

I think athletic/peak human works fine, former is safe but I don't think the latter is too exaggerated.

And yeah I totally agree with that thread.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Should i add all the colossi to this thread?
Its come to my attention the subsonic calc is inflated, as avion moves about 15 m/s in game

 

[Armorchompy]

Maybe, yeah.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

This seems to make sense to me.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

@DarkGrath @The_Wright_Way @DemonGodMitchAubin @Everything12 @Duedate8898

Would you be willing to help with evaluating this please?

 

[Everything12]

I don't have any problems with what I see, I agree with the proposed ratings.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the evaluation.

Let's wait a bit to see if we get more input before anything is applied though.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Yeah, I can second this. This all checks out from what I've seen.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. This can probably be applied then.

 

[DarkGrath]

This seems fine on the surface, but I'm a bit confused why this was on the profile in the first place if there was never anything akin to it in the entire game. Are we sure that there isn't a feat somewhere that has been forgotten about?

 

[Cyberblader90]

This seems fine on the surface, but I'm a bit confused why this was on the profile in the first place if there was never anything akin to it in the entire game. Are we sure that there isn't a feat somewhere that has been forgotten about?

(1) 8-C Wander? | VS Battles Wiki Forum
Kep mentioned there 2 other electric attacks, but neither should be used per his word

I just watched both, they are just exploding balls of magical energy

 

[DarkGrath]

Gotcha. If that's what the rating was based on, then it should be fine to remove it.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. This seems to have been settled then.

 

[Cyberblader90]

So do you want me to do edits or someone else

 

[Antvasima]

You can handle it as long as you know how to edit properly.

 

[Cyberblader90]

Sure, ill do it tonight

 

[Cyberblader90]

all profiles are done. this can be closed

 

[DarkGrath]

I'll close this now, then.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.