[R1M3] 1st Generals of Grove Tournament - Ruby vs. Dr. Hecate (S-0-0)

[ExSENNA]

Welcome to the Third Match of the First Round of the 1st Generals of Grove Tournament! (Bracket) (Event Leaderboard)

On the blue corner, we have Ruby, submitted by @LeoEpicGamer8910!
On the red corner, we have Dr. Hecate, submitted by @Rayfire!
Duel 3, let's go!

Ruby is 121 Tons. Hecate is 12 Tons. Ruby has 10x AP Advantage.
Ruby has Class G, Hecate has Class 10 LS. Ruby has the LS Advantage.

Attack on Castle Grande Ruby is used.
No tech/suits Hecate is used.
Anything above 8-A is restricted.
Speed is equalized.
Starting distance is 7 meters.

Ruby: Stomp
Hecate:
Incon:

 

[SSB64]

Following (Let's go Rayfire!)

 

[Rayfire]

So ruby is obviously a lot more physically stronger than hecate, but i have no doubt she could be able to know this thanks to Information Analysis, and know that she'll have to resort to her durability negating options, such as her laser rifle (Which can cause a molecular implosion if it lands) or negating ruby's resistance to electricity via the Elec Knife, which can stun the monarch institution guards despite tanking taser shots

She can also use sleeping gas grenades, and even f##king flashbangs

Spoiler: Ability Specifications

• Energy Projection and Limited Biological Manipulation (Via her Laser Rifle, which is a weapon she uses when a mech is absent. Her rifle is able to pierce through battlesuits of the Dragon Heroes as well as cause the molecular implosion of a human sized being as soon as the laser contacts them. It also does this for similarly sized objects and space, just landing the laser induces the effect)
  
  
• Status Effect Inducement (Can stun the guards of Monarch Institution after stabbing them with her 'Elec Knife' despite their ability to resist tasers and similar technology built by Alexis. Managed to make small grenades which emitted sleeping gas able to put the guards to sleep, as well as light grenades which could blind them, even through their filtering scanners which normally prevented it. Can also use strong tranquilizers after robbing one of the Monarch guards)

Ruby has some decent acrobatics to dodge, although homing attacks from hecate will naturally make it harder to avoid them, especially since she seems to have dealt with agile opponents before in the past. And the most acrobatics feat i see on her profile is jumping really high on top of a building, which im not sure necessarily equates to an ability to dodge, but either way i don't think she'd escape.

• Homing Attack (Stole an anti-aircraft cannon from Craven's lab which contained specially designed rockets capable of homing in on agile aircraft and similar, such as the Metal Knight tech of the New Hero Association which could fly through the air much faster than a helicopter, being compared to jets instead. Managed to shoot down Craven's anti-escape squad, who also wore agile battle mechs, and the Monarch Institution's helicopters)

However, ruby can actually do more than dodging, as she can catch enemy attacks with her portals, but other than simply dodging this is about it. Even if ruby lasts a good amount of time, I doubt she has the versatility or skill she would need to avoid being outsmarted when hecate can keep up with 400 iq analytical machines like Craven.

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

So ruby is obviously a lot more physically stronger than hecate, but i have no doubt she could be able to know this thanks to Information Analysis, and know that she'll have to resort to her durability negating options, such as her laser rifle (Which can cause a molecular implosion if it lands) or negating ruby's resistance to electricity via the Elec Knife, which can stun the monarch institution guards despite tanking taser shots

She can also use sleeping gas grenades, and even f##king flashbangs

Spoiler: Ability Specifications

• Energy Projection and Limited Biological Manipulation (Via her Laser Rifle, which is a weapon she uses when a mech is absent. Her rifle is able to pierce through battlesuits of the Dragon Heroes as well as cause the molecular implosion of a human sized being as soon as the laser contacts them. It also does this for similarly sized objects and space, just landing the laser induces the effect)
  
  
• Status Effect Inducement (Can stun the guards of Monarch Institution after stabbing them with her 'Elec Knife' despite their ability to resist tasers and similar technology built by Alexis. Managed to make small grenades which emitted sleeping gas able to put the guards to sleep, as well as light grenades which could blind them, even through their filtering scanners which normally prevented it. Can also use strong tranquilizers after robbing one of the Monarch guards)

Ruby has some decent acrobatics to dodge, although homing attacks from hecate will naturally make it harder to avoid them, especially since she seems to have dealt with agile opponents before in the past. And the most acrobatics feat i see on her profile is jumping really high on top of a building, which im not sure necessarily equates to an ability to dodge, but either way i don't think she'd escape.

• Homing Attack (Stole an anti-aircraft cannon from Craven's lab which contained specially designed rockets capable of homing in on agile aircraft and similar, such as the Metal Knight tech of the New Hero Association which could fly through the air much faster than a helicopter, being compared to jets instead. Managed to shoot down Craven's anti-escape squad, who also wore agile battle mechs, and the Monarch Institution's helicopters)

However, ruby can actually do more than dodging, as she can catch enemy attacks with her portals, but other than simply dodging this is about it. Even if ruby lasts a good amount of time, I doubt she has the versatility or skill she would need to avoid being outsmarted when hecate can keep up with 400 iq analytical machines like Craven.

I'm sure Ruby could dodge those attacks for long enough to pull out something that'd definitely stop Hecate which I'll mention in a bit. For Homing stuff, she can just spawn portals in front of her and even just size manip her weapon and shield herself with her skyscraper sized blade. Hecate is smart and all to dodge stuff, but there's one thing in Ruby's arsenal I'm pretty sure she can't deal with.

• Limited BFR and Paralysis Inducement (Ruby can send all enemies on the battlefield to the aforementioned technology realm where they are attacked from all angles with technology. During this, all her enemies caught in the attack are completely unable to move.)

Hecate doesn't resist Paralysis so there's nothing stopping Ruby from sending her to the tech realm to be bombarded by 8-A attacks that she won't be able to take. (PLEASE remember that Ruby can't just BFR people to the realm and call it a day. She's forced to bring the enemies caught in this attack back to the battlefield after a few seconds.)

 

[Rayfire]

I'm sure Ruby could dodge those attacks for long enough to pull out something that'd definitely stop Hecate which I'll mention in a bit. For Homing stuff, she can just spawn portals in front of her and even just size manip her weapon and shield herself with her skyscraper sized blade. Hecate is smart and all to dodge stuff, but there's one thing in Ruby's arsenal I'm pretty sure she can't deal with.

It'll be hard to do that when hecate has this in her arsenal, which i don't know if ruby has dealt with before or not.

• Superhuman Precision (Threw a needle into a scientist's eye from across the Monarch Institution's main lab, which is a 150 by 150 meter complex. Managed to snipe guards from an exceedingly far distance of 4 and a half kilometers with a gun she had not trained with and only had limited experience with. Later on, she considered sniping space debris from New Genesis without her targeting system or homing missiles to just be 'target practice' and said that she could pick out any specific rock and shoot it down. Piloted a drone into a very specific crater on the dark side of the moon from the ground despite the drones limited camera view.)

Vene has said that the laser rifle is hard for even hecate to land a shot with on the discord gc, which is kinda the downside of it it seems, but there are many other options hecate has like her sleeping grenades and flashbangs which she could yeet at ruby at the start of the fight to try and take her off-guard, neither of which ruby would have an easy time dealing with.

Hecate doesn't resist Paralysis so there's nothing stopping Ruby from sending her to the tech realm to be bombarded by 8-A attacks that she won't be able to take. (PLEASE remember that Ruby can't just BFR people to the realm and call it a day. She's forced to bring the enemies caught in this attack back to the battlefield after a few seconds.)

I doubt it'd be this easy. Hecate should be able to easily tell that ruby is stronger cause info analysis, so she'll be cautious from the start. Ruby will have to either be much faster or outsmart hecate for this to work, and the latter definitely isn't likely

It would also be extremely easy for hecate to track ruby too, since she has this, so she'd be aware of what's she doing the entire fight even if she keeps her distance:

• Enhanced Senses (Via her Hecate Radar, a highly advanced radar system developed by her during she and Alexis' escape planning period. It utilizes electromagnetic waves from living beings and the surroundings to map out the location and provide information of the position of others.)

 

[MintyBoi1]

Something about all of Hecate’s arguments I think should be addressed is Ruby’s technology manipulation. It seems nothing Hecate has can stop Ruby from disabling say her rifle or radar if she can freely control them like it seems. That combined with mechs should let Ruby overwhelm Hecate soon enough without her equipment that resists such abilities. If Ruby disables Hecate’s gear then sends her to the technology realm, that’s game.

 

[Rayfire]

Something about all of Hecate’s arguments I think should be addressed is Ruby’s technology manipulation. It seems nothing Hecate has can stop Ruby from disabling say her rifle or radar if she can freely control them like it seems. That combined with mechs should let Ruby overwhelm Hecate soon enough without her equipment that resists such abilities. If Ruby disables Hecate’s gear then sends her to the technology realm, that’s game.

I don't think this is ruby's go-to. She only seems to use her tech manip for positive uses, and we've never seen her use it to affect other technology negatively before. She also doesn't seem to just do this immediately against other tech users, otherwise she wouldn't need to dodge Robot B's lasers which her speed section implies

 

[SSB64]

 

[ExSENNA]

So does Hecate win here?

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

So does Hecate win here?

Probably? The laser rifle is modern Hecate tech so it resists the same basic things her mechs do, even if Ruby would control Hecate's other stuff, her crazy precision should let her land the shot she needs to eventually, especially with just how well she's able to utilize her surroundings. She's also super good at dodging since Craven in a whole battle mech still couldn't hit her, and all of his stuff would've killed her instantly considering a HUGE ap difference, so she had to rely on wit and intuitiveness. she's no stranger to winning even at a huge disadvantage, and her far superior intellect provides her the ability to plan using her tech in record time to find the winning combination

So I will vote Hecate FRA

 

[Rayfire]

Can't think of a good joke (Hecate) FRA

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Probably?

Haha, no. Sorry for being late, but I still have more arguments to give and I think it's a little too soon to be voting.

It'll be hard to do that when hecate has this in her arsenal, which i don't know if ruby has dealt with before or not.

• Superhuman Precision (Threw a needle into a scientist's eye from across the Monarch Institution's main lab, which is a 150 by 150 meter complex. Managed to snipe guards from an exceedingly far distance of 4 and a half kilometers with a gun she had not trained with and only had limited experience with. Later on, she considered sniping space debris from New Genesis without her targeting system or homing missiles to just be 'target practice' and said that she could pick out any specific rock and shoot it down. Piloted a drone into a very specific crater on the dark side of the moon from the ground despite the drones limited camera view.)

Vene has said that the laser rifle is hard for even hecate to land a shot with on the discord gc, which is kinda the downside of it it seems, but there are many other options hecate has like her sleeping grenades and flashbangs which she could yeet at ruby at the start of the fight to try and take her off-guard, neither of which ruby would have an easy time dealing with.

Both grenades could just easily be blocked by her skyscraper sized blade. The sniper seems like she wouldn't be able to land a hit before Ruby realizes she just needs to send Hecate to the tech realm to win. Ruby is also very agile despite carrying a giant ass weapon and should easily scale to Slimer and Playz who iirc have some good feats. There's also her being able to dodge attacks from Playz, Slimer, Garret, NPC, and Zad all at once.

I doubt it'd be this easy. Hecate should be able to easily tell that ruby is stronger cause info analysis, so she'll be cautious from the start. Ruby will have to either be much faster or outsmart hecate for this to work, and the latter definitely isn't likely

It would also be extremely easy for hecate to track ruby too, since she has this, so she'd be aware of what's she doing the entire fight even if she keeps her distance:

• Enhanced Senses (Via her Hecate Radar, a highly advanced radar system developed by her during she and Alexis' escape planning period. It utilizes electromagnetic waves from living beings and the surroundings to map out the location and provide information of the position of others.)

I mean, none of that really helps since Ruby doesn't need to aim or anything for her BFR. Playz's team was kinda just helpless to do anything about it and were just sucked in. If there was a way for Hecate to dodge it, I'm sure Playz and co. would've done it first.

Probably? The laser rifle is modern Hecate tech so it resists the same basic things her mechs do, even if Ruby would control Hecate's other stuff, her crazy precision should let her land the shot she needs to eventually, especially with just how well she's able to utilize her surroundings. She's also super good at dodging since Craven in a whole battle mech still couldn't hit her, and all of his stuff would've killed her instantly considering a HUGE ap difference, so she had to rely on wit and intuitiveness. she's no stranger to winning even at a huge disadvantage, and her far superior intellect provides her the ability to plan using her tech in record time to find the winning combination

Ruby doesn't need to control Hecate's tech to win, and "eventually" just isn't good enough if Ruby with her Extraordinary Genius Intelligence just has to figure she needs one specific attack in her arsenal to win.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Haha, no. Sorry for being late, but I still have more arguments to give and I think it's a little too soon to be voting.

Both grenades could just easily be blocked by her skyscraper sized blade. The sniper seems like she wouldn't be able to land a hit before Ruby realizes she just needs to send Hecate to the tech realm to win. Ruby is also very agile despite carrying a giant ass weapon and should easily scale to Slimer and Playz who iirc have some good feats. There's also her being able to dodge attacks from Playz, Slimer, Garret, NPC, and Zad all at once.

I mean, none of that really helps since Ruby doesn't need to aim or anything for her BFR. Playz's team was kinda just helpless to do anything about it and were just sucked in. If there was a way for Hecate to dodge it, I'm sure Playz and co. would've done it first.

Ruby doesn't need to control Hecate's tech to win, and "eventually" just isn't good enough if Ruby with her Extraordinary Genius Intelligence just has to figure she needs one specific attack in her arsenal to win.

Is this a stomp?

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Is this a stomp?

Could be if Hecate has no counters.

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I guess this is a stomp

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

So Ruby just has like an insta-win button with the Tech Realm BFR or?

 

[Rayfire]

Ruby with her Extraordinary Genius Intelligence

Ain’t Ruby Genius?

Both grenades could just easily be blocked by her skyscraper sized blade. The sniper seems like she wouldn't be able to land a hit before Ruby realizes she just needs to send Hecate to the tech realm to win. Ruby is also very agile despite carrying a giant ass weapon and should easily scale to Slimer and Playz who iirc have some good feats. There's also her being able to dodge attacks from Playz, Slimer, Garret, NPC, and Zad all at once.

I don’t see how she’d do this right at the start, especially when they start in Central Park where there isn’t really a building a metre to their right.

Do any of them have superhuman precision?

I mean, none of that really helps since Ruby doesn't need to aim or anything for her BFR. Playz's team was kinda just helpless to do anything about it and were just sucked in. If there was a way for Hecate to dodge it, I'm sure Playz and co. would've done it first.

Hecate has info analysis, so she might see this coming and plan around it. Does she tend to use this off the bat? I don’t remember seeing info analysis on her profile so I doubt she can just change plans as soon as she sees what stuff Hecate has.

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

So Ruby just has like an insta-win button with the Tech Realm BFR or?

(PLEASE remember that Ruby can't just BFR people to the realm and call it a day. She's forced to bring the enemies caught in this attack back to the battlefield after a few seconds.)

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

And she can't spam it, I assume? I guess it'd only be an insta-win against 8-Bs, then?

I do find the argument that she'll just immediately go for it a bit of a reach though, unless that's something she does in-character.

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Ain’t Ruby Genius?

Wait is she? That should really be Extraordinary Genius because of matter manip and deconstruction tech...

I don’t see how she’d do this right at the start, especially when they start in Central Park where there isn’t really a building a metre to their right.

Enlarging her blade to the size of a skyscraper is her starting move if she doesn't have a mech nearby.

Hecate has info analysis, so she might see this coming and plan around it. Does she tend to use this off the bat? I don’t remember seeing info analysis on her profile so I doubt she can just change plans as soon as she sees what stuff Hecate has.

Ruby doesn't need info analysis and her battle IQ should be enough for her to know to use this if Hecate's just dodging all her sword slashes.

I do find the argument that she'll just immediately go for it a bit of a reach though, unless that's something she does in-character

She's also brings this out pretty frequently, doing pretty soon in her actual fight against Playz and co. and doing it twice in the same fight.

And she can't spam it, I assume? I guess it'd only be an insta-win against 8-Bs, then?

I mean a lot of 8-Bs could likely tank it, albeit being quite hurt by it considering Ruby's just a bit over baseline 8-A.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

She's also brings this out pretty frequently, doing pretty soon in her actual fight against Playz and co. and doing it twice in the same fight.

Pretty soon and first move is big distinction here, since Hecate has a one-shot move of her own, one that she seems to start with.

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Pretty soon and first move is big distinction here, since Hecate has a one-shot move of her own, one that she seems to start with.

Yeah except it's been brought up multiple times that it's hard to aim, even for someone like Hecate. I don't see her landing a shot before Ruby realizes what she needs to do to win. I also doubt Hecate would be getting any aiming done when being relentlessly attacks by a building sized blade.

 

[Froggytron]

Following

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Nobody replied here for a little while, I’m still of the belief that Hecate is gonna be stomped here but if Rayfire still has an argument that’s cool too

 

[MintyBoi1]

I’m in favor of stomp as well. Wider arsenal, better physicals, and the skyscraper blade give Ruby many legs up

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Yeah this is looking like a stomp