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[Sprituallyricalmiraculousindividual]

you guys do know that the people at marvel like said the databooks aren't legit right?

you need massively ftl reactions to fly comfortably at that speed, and so on. it applies to anything

 

[Gemmysaur]

With how inconsistent the verse is, databooks are our best choice for their base stats before being modified via consistent enough feats.

Someone like Thor would not need MFTL reflexes to fly comfortably. Not when he can just bump through planets and stars like passing through a Japanese door made of paper. He can just predict where he needs to stop before going ahead.

If he had MFTL reflexes, Wolverine, Spiderman and Cap who was able to outmove him would be MFTL in movespeed as well. You see where this is going?

 

[Gemmysaur]

Really? Calling names on someone who gave his thoughts on your post? That's pathetic.

It's not downplaying when he was consistently outmoved by people who shouldn't have done so. He even outright stated Wolverine is faster than him in one issue. Also, whenever he fought Silver Surfer, Gladiator and other cosmic speedsters in which Thor should've been part of, they never use that speed.

Hell, the only times Thor hit Surfer when they're moving MFTL is in flight where he can actually move that fast. Thor is slow, not stupid. He can anticipate someone moving MFTL speeds as he has experience with those speeds as well, even if he doesn't have the reflexes for it.

Again, if Thor had MFTL reflexes, then the fact that many street levelers were able to even hit him would mean they have MFTL speeds as well. Imagine that. MFTL Wolverine, Captain America, Spiderman, etc. Then we would scale their villains to them as well. Then we would scale other heroes who were able to react to them as well. Then everyone would be MFTL.

 

[Gemmysaur]

That's not how most everyone else see it apparently.

Speed: Likely Supersonic movement speed (Roughly as swift as Spider-Ma according to the official handbooks). Massively FTL+ flight speed with Mjolnir.

You need to get down the high end feats dude. Thor has not heavily outspeeded anybody in live combat in a long time. Iirc, ever since post-Ragnarok, he is slow.

Think of it this way. A fighter pilot can fly a jet at supersonic speeds. Guess what, a fighter pilot doesn't have supersonic reflexes. It doesn't directly translate.

You can prove otherwise though. Show me a recent scan of Thor reacting to something immensely fast. Do not attempt to use feats like Thor swinging at Quicksilver as he is nowhere near lightspeed and Thor used a small aoe attack to hit.

Also, try not to use crap words like blah blah, etc. It just shows you are exceptionally biased and refuses to listen to the input of others when it directly clashes with yours.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Me? Dense? Try listening to your childish rant. You haven't given a clear answer yet.

Who are these multiple MFTL enemies he fights? You mean Silver Surfer who never uses his MFTL speed whenever they face? You mean Gladiator who Thor just outmuscles anyway? You mean Gorr who we can only scale combat speed to Thor himself? You mean Galactus who has never shown moving his body at MFTL anyway? Who else?

Wow. Yes. I called you biased. Look at how extremely negative you even reply. We are dense? We who back things up with feats and careful checking? What about you and your little smacktalk that you don't even back up at all?