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What is the confirmation of Diavolo's Time Skip working on a Universal scale?
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It could just be planetary in scale. There are other characters who tamper with time on planetary scales.Arigarmy said:
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Mih platinum btd and all time based ability worked on a universal scale why diavolo any different?.
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Burden of proof is on you. Occams razer and all friend.
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That the time based ability in a verse where all time based abilities work on a universal scale hence no reason to assume the erase would be anything but universal would end with a range not hinted at or infinitely below all prior and later ability introduced. Excluding the fact a time ability would by default be universal.
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I'm no expert on these matters, but in my experience very rarely do we assume that these abilities can be equted this wy without proof, especilly if it's not a mechanic iof time abilities in the verse that gives them that range. Also, time abilities are not defaulted to universal range in any way.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Time is time. Abitrarily assuming that an ability worked on an range not at all hinted or implied opposed to effecting time outright would be obviously grasping at straws when nothing hinted or implied for the time based ability not to effect time generally.
Add the fact no preceding or proceeding time ability effected anything except the universe. Hence there obviously would be no reason that diavolo would be anything except what he would normally have when erase had no contradictory showing of that sort of thing.
Add the fact no preceding or proceeding time ability effected anything except the universe. Hence there obviously would be no reason that diavolo would be anything except what he would normally have when erase had no contradictory showing of that sort of thing.
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we're saying it's ******* time itself name one time a time-based ability doesn't affect the whole spectrum of the universe that time itself is completely surrounding i
Do you think Mandom or Bites the Dust's time reversal has a planetary range solely because nothing has ever supported a fact that they were never stated to affect the entire universe? That question isn't meant to provoke, it's an actual question.
Do you think Mandom or Bites the Dust's time reversal has a planetary range solely because nothing has ever supported a fact that they were never stated to affect the entire universe? That question isn't meant to provoke, it's an actual question.
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Non-sequitur, as bites the dust and Mandom are only two abilities in a wiki that deals with fair more.Arigarmy said:
and yes, I can name a time based ability that doesn't affect the entire universe. Hit for example. We shouldn't randomly scale since similar characters have that range.
(And no, I don't actually believe it's planetary, and in fact myself do believe it to be universal in range, but this wiki's standards are strict and often require a more in depth look, at least in cases like these. In my experience, we don't assume things like this to be true even if it is a sensible assumption.)
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Except hit explicitly proved not universal. And btd and mandom are jojo. The point flew past ya.
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Hit also had a pocket dimension of time from which he steals local time. Vados explained all of that.
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Nothing contradicted universal crimson though actually most proved his range quite decent. My point was hit proved he lacked universal while crimson did not and in a verse where most time based ability are universal (probably all) obviously there would be no implication of anything except universal.
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Yea, Hit's time manipulation was shown to have a set range, KC's time skip/erase was never shown to have a set range and in Jojo, since all other time-based abilities were shown or stated to have universal range, KC would more than likely would as well
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Yeah you can't really even try to be precise with Diavolo if you ever did remove the generalized uni range (which is still most likely a true statement). The closest accurate thing we could probably get is taking his "the clouds don't even know they have moved" statement, but its so vague on if its just like the ones above him or literally all clouds. We have two The Worlds that have an interview statement and Made in Heaven which only has the universe reset by speeding up time, which affects the entire universe to make such a feat happen. It's not because MiH had the ability to affect the entire universe, it's just that it speeds up time and the reset is a secondary effect done by accelerating it.
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