Predator Vs Arthur Morgan

[Zenkaibattery1]

No, I simply said it takes 10/multiple bullets to compare to what dynamite sticks can do (kill a gigantic bear), I even said this line of scaling could or could not be used. I was reinstating what the other person said that explosive rounds can do extensive damage, as they have seen to literally blow up the entire body which'd have a signficiantly higher AP value than what Arthur can do himself, and then do said thing upwards of 14 times, with others in the thread saying predators stuff can **** up if shot in rapid succession, and it not being a strong point that pred can survive multiple shots of something that can blow up body parts.

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Speed amp is a non-point, thats how deku steamrolled to 16 wins
Eagel Eye is an ability that requires distance and prep time, doesnt matter in this debate, if he were to use it he'd lose, and in SBA he has no reason to start with it.
Dead Eye is the only point being used.

You ignored me comparing all things in the stomp thread page so I wont be responding to you after this. Arthur has a viable with condition he can reasonably pull off first before Predator can pull off his many more existing win-cons which satisfys the standards of what a stomp match is not. It's not a case of "he can't do his things therefore its a stomp against him", its a "He wont be able to pull off his existing win conditions first". If pred didnt have win-conditions at all THEN it would have been a stomp

people can make their votes if they think it's a stomp or not, but using the stomp page, it is not, at all.

 

[koopa3144]

No, I simply said it takes 10/multiple bullets to compare to what dynamite sticks can do (kill a gigantic bear), I even said this line of scaling could or could not be used. I was reinstating what the other person said that explosive rounds can do extensive damage, as they have seen to literally blow up the entire body which'd have a signficiantly higher AP value than what Arthur can do himself, and then do said thing upwards of 14 times

Then, like I said before, if his guns have no scaling other than upscaling from his physical value, they won't be enough to get over the 62x dura difference and won't be able to really harm the Pred.

with others in the thread saying predators stuff can **** up if shot in rapid succession

Thats only a weakness for the Killscreen Generator. It vaporizes incoming projectiles before they can hit the Pred. Since it can only vaporize so much mass per unit time, it can be overwhelmed by rapid-fire shots.

The rest of the Preds equipment will work fine regardless of being hit with rapid-fire shots.

and it not being a strong point that pred can survive multiple shots of something that can blow up body parts.

It's not gonna be able to blow up the body parts of someone 62x stronger than the bullets themself. And the Pred can be covered head to toe in armor, so even if his bullets could somehow blow up the Pred's limbs despite their overwhelming ap and dura advantage, their not gonna be able to get past its armor to actually be able to do that damage.

Arthur has a viable with condition he can reasonably pull off first before Predator can pull off his many more existing win-cons which satisfys the standards of what a stomp match is not. It's not a case of "he can't do his things therefore its a stomp against him", its a "He wont be able to pull off his existing win conditions first". If pred didnt have win-conditions at all THEN it would have been a stomp

I've been saying that, going by your arguments, Arthur will always just shoot the Predator dead as soon as the fight starts, leaving no room for them to pull off their wincons. It doesn't matter if the Pred has wincons, they're never gonna be able to perform them if they're always gonna be gunned down instantly.

Either the Pred completely stonewalls due to being 62x stronger than Arthur and his bullets, or Arthur shoots the Pred dead before they can act. Either way, this is a mismatch and should be closed.

 

[AThe1412]

Yeah, but going off what @Zenkaibattery1 is saying, Arthur's bullets downscale from his explosives, which are 2847.52444 Kilojoules vs the Preds 120936.0575 Joules/120.936058 Kilojoules, which is over the one-shot gap.

Brother, that calculation is over 7 MJ.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

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Arthur can throw dynamite sticks at the predator and make them explode faster by shooting them in deadeye, in that case, which would be his win-con, and that action does give predator some space to do whatever his win-von could be. But in that scenario Dead Eye would likely allow Arthur to pull off his win-con first, which again, satisfys the stomp thread standards which I'm not going over with you again

Brother, that calculation is over 7 MJ.

It's early in the morning for me rn; does that far upscale arthurs dynamite? If it does then yes he gets AP stomped. If not, Arthur wins decisively by throwing dynamite sticks at the pred and making it explode with dead eye

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I asked DDM in a private message if this would be considered a stomp, and he said "probably not"

not sure if he wants to state that here, but there ye go.

Of course if dynamite sticks don't match AP/durability difference THEN arthur does get stomped, yes. He will literally have 0 win cons without that

 

[AThe1412]

It's early in the morning for me rn; does that far upscale arthurs dynamite? If it does then yes he gets AP stomped. If not, Arthur wins decisively by throwing dynamite sticks at the pred and making it explode with dead eye

THE CALCULATION IS FOR THE PREDATOR, NOT ARTHUR. Have you guys actually looked at it yet?

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

THE CALCULATION IS FOR THE PREDATOR, NOT ARTHUR. Have you guys actually looked at it yet?

That's literally what I asked lol. If the preds thing upscales his dynamite, then yes, Arthur gets stomped.