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So I know that omnipotence means you're able to do anything. Does that include making yourself omniscient and omnipresent? Or any other omnis, if there are any?
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Omnipotence = Omniscience and Omnipresence?
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(Re-Opening this thread to elaborate)
Yes, obviously.
The problem with Omnipotence is that it is "The power to do anything, regardless of limitation". With this, comes highly bizarre contradictions. The most well known of this is the rock contradiction, which is:
"Can God create a rock so big he can't lift it?"
Through Omnipotence, the answer to that is yes, but he would still be able to lift it. One with legit Omnipotence would also be able to create things like a triangle whose hypotenuse's area is larger than the sum of the legs' areas, or an only child with two brothers. He would also be able to make someone else Omnipotent, or remove his Omnipotence, or kill himself even though through his Omnipotence he can't be killed / is beyond life and death.
Look up theological concepts such as Kabbalah's Ein Sof, Gnosticism's Monad, and Hinduism's Brahma and Parabrahma. These things are all described in detail in ways to explain how they are beyond literally everything and can do everything, though their Omnipotence is not proved through "feats", since you can't depict feats on such a scale, but more through descriptions and philosophical ideas. Because, Omnipotence, by definition, is the ability to do everything, so any feat you can think of can be surpasses by Omnipotence, even nonsensical things like "Surpassing an Omnipotent" (An Omnipotent being could, of course, surpass his own Omnipotent power through his Omnipotence).
This is why no character in fiction is Omnipotent, only Questionably Omnipotent. I.e, they are the closest we can get to depicting Omnipotence, but not actually Omnipotent. They are just supremely powerful beings even to High-End 1-As and High 1-As. This is why, depending on the setting, we accept Tier 0s which have some minor "limitation", like not being fully Omniscient with the Law of Identity.
Yes, obviously.
The problem with Omnipotence is that it is "The power to do anything, regardless of limitation". With this, comes highly bizarre contradictions. The most well known of this is the rock contradiction, which is:
"Can God create a rock so big he can't lift it?"
Through Omnipotence, the answer to that is yes, but he would still be able to lift it. One with legit Omnipotence would also be able to create things like a triangle whose hypotenuse's area is larger than the sum of the legs' areas, or an only child with two brothers. He would also be able to make someone else Omnipotent, or remove his Omnipotence, or kill himself even though through his Omnipotence he can't be killed / is beyond life and death.
Look up theological concepts such as Kabbalah's Ein Sof, Gnosticism's Monad, and Hinduism's Brahma and Parabrahma. These things are all described in detail in ways to explain how they are beyond literally everything and can do everything, though their Omnipotence is not proved through "feats", since you can't depict feats on such a scale, but more through descriptions and philosophical ideas. Because, Omnipotence, by definition, is the ability to do everything, so any feat you can think of can be surpasses by Omnipotence, even nonsensical things like "Surpassing an Omnipotent" (An Omnipotent being could, of course, surpass his own Omnipotent power through his Omnipotence).
This is why no character in fiction is Omnipotent, only Questionably Omnipotent. I.e, they are the closest we can get to depicting Omnipotence, but not actually Omnipotent. They are just supremely powerful beings even to High-End 1-As and High 1-As. This is why, depending on the setting, we accept Tier 0s which have some minor "limitation", like not being fully Omniscient with the Law of Identity.
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