Mui Goku vs saint seiya

[Soulgizmo]

Low 2-c key for seiya

Son Goku (DBS Anime)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock and his mother Gine to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after...

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Pegasus Seiya

Seiya (星矢, Seiya), also known as Pegasus Seiya (天馬星座の星矢, Pegasasu no Seiya), is the titular Main Character of the Saint Seiya Manga and Anime series written and illustrated by Masami Kurumada. He is one of the Goddess Athena's eighty-eight mythical warriors known as Saints, who have served their...

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Goku:
Seiya:
Incon:

 

[Soulgizmo]

I was just surprised this wasn't a thread

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

I was just surprised this wasn't a thread

Cuz it's a stomp.

Goku can't win. AP doesn't matter because Seiya ignores durability, he needs only one good attack to win. Plus, Seiya can resurrect himself and has Low-Godly regen. Everytime Goku does an attack or any technique, Seiya will analyze, break it down and become capable of neutralizing it.

 

[LordGinSama]

GT Goku has a better chance just because of his resistance to Seiya's durability negation. SSJ4 is actually pretty busted for what DB is.

 

[C2_of_Omegon]

GT Goku has a better chance just because of his resistance to Seiya's durability negation. SSJ4 is actually pretty busted for what DB is.

Is that due to his Atomic level Matter resistance? Because Seiya's is around or beyond Sub-Atomic.

 

[azontr]

GT Goku has a better chance just because of his resistance to Seiya's durability negation. SSJ4 is actually pretty busted for what DB is.

Not really, since GT Goku's resistance to matter manipulation is only Atomic, meanwhile any Tier 2 version of Seiya can effect quarks.

 

[LordGinSama]

Not really, since GT Goku's resistance to matter manipulation is only Atomic, meanwhile any Tier 2 version of Seiya can effect quarks.

True, still better than MUI hax and resistance which is a small flex I'll take

 

[azontr]

 

[LordGinSama]

Although I'm not sure why we're using some Spanish translation over the English or Japanese one but **** it.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Although I'm not sure why we're using some Spanish translation over the English or Japanese one but **** it.

You mean Saint saiya?

 

[AguilaR202]

If speed isn’t equlized who has the speed advantage?

 

[azontr]

Although I'm not sure why we're using some Spanish translation over the English or Japanese one but **** it.

Cause the Hispanics own the world.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

If speed isn’t equlized who has the speed advantage?

Saiya iirc

Cause the Hispanics own the world.

bueno los voy de Saint seiya hablan en español una parte

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

because Spanish is one of the official languages

 

[LordGinSama]

You mean Saint saiya?

Nah the scan for GT Goku's resistance.

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Idk man

 

[Soulgizmo]

Cuz it's a stomp.

Goku can't win. AP doesn't matter because Seiya ignores durability, he needs only one good attack to win. Plus, Seiya can resurrect himself and has Low-Godly regen. Everytime Goku does an attack or any technique, Seiya will analyze, break it down and become capable of neutralizing it.

Damn it

 

[Soulgizmo]

I can't believe goku isn't as fast as the big bang yet

 

[Hasty12345]

aren't DB vs SS match ups banned?

 

[Soulgizmo]

aren't DB vs SS match ups banned?

Uhh I don't see why not. The only banned topics I see for DragonBall are jiren vs broly and mui goku and gogeta against each other.

 

[Hasty12345]

Uhh I don't see why not. The only banned topics I see for DragonBall are jiren vs broly and mui goku and gogeta against each other.

maybe it was removed

 

[Soulgizmo]

Anyway yall can close the thread if you want this is a bit stompy for seiya even if speed was equalized. He's basically immortal and goku would need hakai to even begin dealing with him.

 

[Dragneel99]

Perché è un calpestio.

Goku non può vincere. AP non importa perché Seiya ignora la durabilità, ha bisogno solo di un buon attacco per vincere. Inoltre, Seiya può resuscitare se stesso e ha una rigenerazione Low-Godly. Ogni volta che Goku esegue un attacco o qualsiasi tecnica, Seiya lo analizzerà, lo scomporrà e diventerà in grado di neutralizzarlo.

What are you saying? here we are underestimating Goku I see, yes it is true Seiya is very strong for via Hax but it does not mean that it is a trampling for Goku. Goku has very MFTL + reactions to Sestillions more than light should only Base form, when Goku MUI has infinite speed is totally superior to the time jump transcending the speed of the timestop, Goku SSJ God with 1 punch was also destroying the Universe together with Beerus, that if you don't know cosmology Living Wolrd is at least Low 2-C because it has time planes like the time spirit room which is influenced by time travel, it has Timeroom from Dragonball Child Goku Arc King Piccolo, Goku entered the Timeroom to travel in time and this room is created past, present and future so Living Wolrd is 4D Universally. Afterlife is the Next Dimension it is on a higher plane of existence so it is 5D here you start going to the low Multiverse Complex, Goku has a 5D AP in addition to having Hakai erasing from existence that he could use on Seiya, but not even immortality makes you invincible lol, Goku MUI outclass Seiya. but if we talk about Chronos or Athena then no, they are comparable to Whis

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

What are you saying? here we are underestimating Goku I see, yes it is true Seiya is very strong for via Hax but it does not mean that it is a trampling for Goku. Goku has very MFTL + reactions to Sestillions more than light should only Base form, when Goku MUI has infinite speed is totally superior to the time jump transcending the speed of the timestop, Goku SSJ God with 1 punch was also destroying the Universe together with Beerus, that if you don't know cosmology Living Wolrd is at least Low 2-C because it has time planes like the time spirit room which is influenced by time travel, it has Timeroom from Dragonball Child Goku Arc King Piccolo, Goku entered the Timeroom to travel in time and this room is created past, present and future so Living Wolrd is 4D Universally. Afterlife is the Next Dimension it is on a higher plane of existence so it is 5D here you start going to the low Multiverse Complex, Goku has a 5D AP in addition to having Hakai erasing from existence that he could use on Seiya, but not even immortality makes you invincible lol, Goku MUI outclass Seiya. but if we talk about Chronos or Athena then no, they are comparable to Whis

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Son Goku (DBS Anime)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock and his mother Gine to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after...

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[Dragneel99]

Non utilizziamo i profili TikTok qui, utilizziamo questi.

Son Goku (DBS Anime)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock and his mother Gine to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after...

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Here I believe that Goku must have an update in his profile at the Low 1-C level because seriously in the afterlife is a higher level of existence

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Here I believe that Goku must have an update in his profile at the Low 1-C level because seriously in the afterlife is a higher level of existence

Is it that scan that says the afterlife is a Higher Dimension? I doubt that means spatially as Cell's explosion which was meant to only destroy earth somehow destroyed King Kai's Planet which was created in this "Higher Dimension".

 

[Dragneel99]

Is it that scan that says the afterlife is a Higher Dimension? I doubt that means spatially as Cell's explosion which was meant to only destroy earth somehow destroyed King Kai's Planet which was created in this "Higher Dimension".

Yes, but now what does the planet king kai have to do with? Did Cell destroy a planet the size of a mountain or a hill? but it did not destroy the entire Dimension but only a matter inside it, I mean the whole Afterlife is a higher plane of existence Goku with teleportation reaches it only thanks to the help of King Kaio who can make Goku perceive his Kai from the afterlife then we exclude Cell who does not center.

let's assume that the afterlife cannot be reached by any means, teleportation is a spiritual perception of KI that King Kaio's helps Goku to perceive him and transport his body and spirit into the Afterlife, it is a later Dimension because no living being can perceive except thanks to King Kaio with his power of telepathy

 

[AguilaR202]

Even if afterlife were higher dimension literally no one destroys the actual space it occupies only the matter inside.

hell it’s very likely that the afterlife being a higher plane is just meant to say it is positioned above the physical universe rather than it being higher dimensional.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Yes, but now what does the planet king kai have to do with? Did Cell destroy a planet the size of a mountain or a hill? but it did not destroy the entire Dimension but only a matter inside it, I mean the whole Afterlife is a higher plane of existence Goku with teleportation reaches it only thanks to the help of King Kaio who can make Goku perceive his Kai from the afterlife then we exclude Cell who does not center.

let's assume that the afterlife cannot be reached by any means, teleportation is a spiritual perception of KI that King Kaio's helps Goku to perceive him and transport his body and spirit into the Afterlife, it is a later Dimension because no living being can perceive except thanks to King Kaio with his power of telepathy

This is not the place to argue this so after this I will drop this conversation. The cell still killed King Kai, who would be a Higher Dimensional being with normal planet-level power following your context. And if you say King Kai is not Higher Dimensional alongside the afterlife then it makes no sense that he can allow Goku to do anything such as crossing into higher dimensions.

Outside of all of this, you would still need to prove not just an infinite difference between the After Life and the normal 4D Universe, but an Uncountably Infinite difference. So, ya.

 

[Dragneel99]

Even if afterlife were higher dimension literally no one destroys the actual space it occupies only the matter inside.

Remember that Beerus and Goku's fists rocked the entire Universe 7. which contains the Afterlife, the shockwaves crossed and passed through another larger Dimensional Space / Time and was starting to destroy when in the Manga they only did it 1 time. So what does the tiered system say?

Low 1-C: Characters that can destroy, create or affect Universally standard Low 2-C structures that have as plane of existence giving 1 to 2 higher levels of Infinity 4D. Coordinate spaces R ^ 5 and R ^ 6.

Goku and Beerus have Affect the whole Universe to the destruction besides that the shockwaves have reached another Dimension from the earth, all the Space / Time of the whole Universe was collapsing, it fits perfectly I would say.

 

[Dragneel99]

Questo non è il luogo per discuterne, quindi dopo questo lascerò questa conversazione. La cellula ha comunque ucciso Re Kai, che sarebbe un essere dimensionale superiore con un normale potere a livello di pianeta in base al tuo contesto. E se dici che King Kai non è dimensionale superiore insieme all'aldilà, non ha senso che possa permettere a Goku di fare qualsiasi cosa come attraversare dimensioni superiori.

Al di fuori di tutto questo, dovresti comunque provare non solo una differenza infinita tra l'Aldilà e il normale Universo 4D, ma una differenza infinitamente infinita. Quindi, si.

I was not saying Supreme Kai was 5D lol, obviously he is planet level durability but his telepathic powers are only 5D as Hax of ability nothing more, he is just a common inhabitant of 5th Dimension but he is not 5D.

 

[Soulgizmo]

I was not saying Supreme Kai was 5D lol, obviously he is planet level durability but his telepathic powers are only 5D as Hax of ability nothing more, he is just a common inhabitant of 5th Dimension but he is not 5D.

Supreme kai is actually equal to cell games ssj goku I believe. He should be star level+. He was stronger than buu saga piccolo and buu saga piccolo and would easily one shot namek arc frieza.

 

[Soulgizmo]

It is kinda a shame the DragonBall universe 7 isn't considered infinite on the wiki for whatever reason even with the guidebook statements. But yeah goku should have the speed advantage by a landslide.

 

[Dragneel99]

It is kinda a shame the DragonBall universe 7 isn't considered infinite on the wiki for whatever reason even with the guidebook statements. But yeah goku should have the speed advantage by a landslide.

It is considered infinite, even on Toei's databooks. Living Wolrd has infinite expansion and has Time Dimensions like Timeroom, now where you discover to rely on BS data, where the 4 quadrants of the galaxies are actually clusters of galaxies and the Wiki unfortunately is not always reliable in fact the profile of Natsu and Naruto have also been updated lol. If you read Wiki Encyclopedia Fandom also says that the afterlife is a next dimension and that the living world is an ever expanding universe yes

Here is the Guide that disproves your BS Guide Canon Encliclopedia Fandom


LIVING WOLRD

Living World

The Living World (この世（よ）, Konoyo; Literally meaning "Present World") is a term that combines both the endless space wrapped around the vast observable universe and the Demon Realm. The Demon Realm exists in the reverse of the universe. Both of which are an expansive space that is wrapped around...

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(Space in continuous expansion)


OTHER WOLRD(Afterlife)
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Other_World
(Next dimension, Underworld, Other Side, the Cosmo, Oblivion, Nether Wolrd)

 

[Dragneel99]

È considerato infinito, anche sui databook della Toei. Living Wolrd ha un'espansione infinita e ha Time Dimensions come Timeroom, ora dove scopri di fare affidamento sui dati BS, dove i 4 quadranti delle galassie sono in realtà ammassi di galassie e il Wiki purtroppo non è sempre affidabile infatti il profilo di Natsu e Naruto sono stati aggiornati anche lol. Se leggi Wiki Encyclopedia Fandom dice anche che l'aldilà è una dimensione successiva e che il mondo vivente è un universo in continua espansione sì

Ecco la guida che smentisce la tua guida BS Canon Encliclopedia Fandom


MONDO VIVO

Living World

The Living World (この世（よ）, Konoyo; Literally meaning "Present World") is a term that combines both the endless space wrapped around the vast observable universe and the Demon Realm. The Demon Realm exists in the reverse of the universe. Both of which are an expansive space that is wrapped around...

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(Spazio in continua espansione)


ALTRO MONDO (Aldilà)
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Other_World
(Prossima dimensione, Underworld, Other Side, il Cosmo, Oblivion, Nether Wolrd)

Conclusion.

According to the Dragonball Wiki Fandom guides

Living Wolrd considered High 3-A + Time Dimension (Timeroom)
(So it has its own Space / Time Continuum) is Low 2-C structure

Afterlife is Next Dimension

 

[Dragneel99]

The Profile of Goku and other Dragonballs is very messed up all profiles should be updated and consider on the pages Dragonball Wiki Fandom ignore the fact that Living Wolrd is Expanding Space and Timeroom a Dimension that creates the entire Space / Time Continuum

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

Just make a crt

 

[Dragneel99]

Basta fare un crt

The problem is who manages the fandom Tier should observe the Fandom Wiki which manages the calculations of the cosmos, Living Wolrd is an expansive space with 1 Dimension of Time (Timeroom)

 

[Oliver_de_jesus]

The problem is who manages the fandom Tier should observe the Fandom Wiki which manages the calculations of the cosmos, Living Wolrd is an expansive space with 1 Dimension of Time (Timeroom)

that's not a problem really, just shows enough evidence cuz if literally 100 things say the sky is blue, then the sky is blue

 

[Dragneel99]

non è davvero un problema, mostra solo prove sufficienti perché se letteralmente 100 cose dicono che il cielo è blu, allora il cielo è blu

Evidence enough? who manages Fandom Wiki and Fandom scaling writes those things that among other things are canonical guides because written from the official page of Dragonball Fando pedia. It is a counter sense if you think about it, then why Goku only Universal+ When he can easily be low Multiversal or Low Complex possible for having shaken Universe 7 which has Afterlife a Next Dimension