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Instead of Netero fighting Meruem it will be Gon who will take his spot

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I don't care if this is the end.I'll use everything I got. Here I come Meruem

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I'll checkmate you shortly.

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Gon: Kenboxx

Meruem: EmperorRorepme, LordUrien935, Dileeden, Purgy


Netero comes in and rose bombs them:
 
Gon can most likely dish out a lot more damage than Netero himself but Meruem still has him beat in skill. Voting Meruem.
 
Let's say they were equal in power. Gon's Jajanken with their limitations should amplify him beyond the King in raw power. However this leaves most of his body vulnerable. The King is not only as strong as Gon but he's so much smarter it isn't a contest. The King precogs all Gon's attacks whilst improving and growing stronger. He could even bit through parts of Gon becoming stronger. So Meruem.
 
I'm curious about Gon's last Jajanken. Killua survived it but the shit busted entire forest.

Old Netero vs Adult Gon might be better btw
 
Literally no idea what happened there. Maybe Killua ran out very quickly? I don't think Gon beats Old Netero either to be honest. The only reason The King got past 100-Type Guanyin Bodhisattva was because of his intellect. Unless Gon's Jajanken is enough to destroy the hands then he isn't doing much.
 
Meh, it is not shown what happened after the Jajanken so I don't think it's possible to calc it. Killua is lightning fast so he could run away easily.
 
Also I don't think Meruem's incapacitation of Knuckle and Meleorin was teleportation. There's another scene where he jumps from where he was to another location almost instantly iirc.
 
I'd think Netero would win against Gon. Only reason Meruem got past the Bodhisattva was cause of his pattern recognition and intelligence. Before that he couldn't prevent himself getting smacked around despite being more powerful.
 
gon should take this easy as a enhancer he as 100% skill in enhancment meruem as a specialist can only do 40% so he will have a hard time hurting gon also we have to remember that meruem never mad a hatsu for combat so he does not have a hatsu to fall back on gon as his rock paper scissors attack that lets him attack from close mid and far range and he can use enhancement on his voice like when he fought the bat hollow ants in gon san mode this should be way more powerful then even uvogin he could create a shock wave with a tree to as a kid which would be stronger as gon san and pitou said his fangs could reach the king so they have to be close in how much aura they have but gon as a enhancer will have the upper hand in h2h combat
 
Kenboxx said:
gon should take this easy as a enhancer he as 100% skill in enhancment meruem as a specialist can only do 40% so he will have a hard time hurting gon also we have to remember that meruem never mad a hatsu for combat so he does not have a hatsu to fall back on gon as his rock paper scissors attack that lets him attack from close mid and far range and he can use enhancement on his voice like when he fought the bat hollow ants in gon san mode this should be way more powerful then even uvogin he could create a shock wave with a tree to as a kid which would be stronger as gon san and pitou said his fangs could reach the king so they have to be close in how much aura they have but gon as a enhancer will have the upper hand in h2h combat
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Netero was also an enhancer and lost to Meruem. Btw, Netero>>>>>>Gon in skill.
 
Kenboxx said:
gon should take this easy as a enhancer he as 100% skill in enhancment meruem as a specialist can only do 40% so he will have a hard time hurting gon also we have to remember that meruem never mad a hatsu for combat so he does not have a hatsu to fall back on gon as his rock paper scissors attack that lets him attack from close mid and far range and he can use enhancement on his voice like when he fought the bat hollow ants in gon san mode this should be way more powerful then even uvogin he could create a shock wave with a tree to as a kid which would be stronger as gon san and pitou said his fangs could reach the king so they have to be close in how much aura they have but gon as a enhancer will have the upper hand in h2h combat
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That doesn't make any sense. Meruem isn't an Enhancer but he's stronger than any Enhancer ever shown in the series. Having a Hatsu doesn't mean you win, especially not for Meruem who defeated the greatest Nen user in the world while he was holding back.
 
gon san >>>>>>>>>>>>>> netero in power gon san kick destroyed pitou and netero attack did nothing to her gon san rock could blow up a big part of a forest netero zero hand which had all his aura by the way did not do nearly as much dmg meruem never did anything pre rose on the level of gon san forest attack also netero hatsu is emission he does not use enhacment for his attack that we see in the series so his skill lvl with enhancer abilities is unknown and final netero >>>>>>>>> meruem skill but meruem huge aura made it so he did zero dmg gon san who as aure levels close to meruem if not more wont have that problem
 
Meruem and it's not a contest.

He has better feats, far more intelligent and equal if not better physicals.

Also, logically Zero hand would be above anything Gon has since it's all of Netero's Aura whereas Gon has never shown the ability put all of his Aura into Jajanken iirc and Meruem survived that with minor injuries.
 
I just want to say yes meruem is stronger then any enhancer in the series do to having more aura then any human but we have to remember that gon san is the strongest human we see in the series way stronger the any member of the spider and above any of the royal guard pitou was only able to hurt gon san after she died and got a power up and gon did not defend with aura but what happened when gon san started to fight he destroyed her in secs it was not even a close fight we should not use netero as a way to scale gon san netero aura was less then the royal guard so his attack are way less then royal guard let alone meruem as proof he could not hurt pitou gon san and meruem are both closer in power and this is pre rose meruem so his only way to attack his h2h combat but sense they both have similar levels of aura and gon san being a enhancer he as the edge
 
When Netero attacked Pitou he wasn't looking to kill her, just send her as far away from Meruem as possible. Gon destroying Pitou in a fight means absolutely nothing because Meruem is so ridiculously above any of his Royal Guards that it's not even funny. Not to mention Meruem is unfathomably smarter and more skilled than Gon will ever be in his life. Like, Gon literally won't get a hit in. Meruem will dodge each and every one of his attacks then tear him apart limb from limb.
 
Pitou is an ant to Meruem no pun intended

So you can't really use Gon fodderizing him/it/she as a means to say Gon could beat Meruem.
 
pitou is an ant to gon san as well and pitou even said gon san could reach the king the manga did not say who was stronger but togashi had pitou say that to show that they are close in power and the anime even says there power is the same this is gon at his strongest and this is pre rose meruem so no pouf and youpi powers no speed of light en or any of the crap none of his feats post rose count as op said this is pre rose the guy as nothing but punching and kick he is a level 100 mmo character vs lvl 1 with stats that make it so no one can hurt him but gon san as a enhancer and having aura levels that should be around meruem enhancers have the best attack defense and healing out of all the nen classes specialist have the worse at 40% kurapika made a hatsu that let him use all nen at 100% that his specialist ability meruem can only do 40% which his fine sense he as more aura then anyone else but like I said he facing gon san who as aura that around the same level as him gon who can use enhancement at 100% rock blow up part of a forest what did pre rose meruem do that even close to that punching a small hole in the chimera ant base taking netero arm and leg who I want to remind everyone as less aura then the royal guard gon rock paper scissors attack gives him alot of stuff to do in a fight we see him use his hatsu which is simple in alot of cool ways we never got to see him use paper or scissors when he older but you know they are crazy strong when he is at gon san form meruem going to have a hard time dmg gon san who attack defense and healing should be above do to there nen classes if this was post rose meruem I would agree with you guys but this is not gon alot smarter then the fans think to as shown in the chimera ant arc he uses his brain in fights all the time like with razor he come up with that plan or his fight with hisoka
 
I think Netero slapping Meruem and causing him to bleed is enough to say he wasn't intending to kill Pitou. This also lines up with Netero's character who always wanted people to tackle extreme challenges. The challenge here was for Gon and Killua to defeat Pitou as initially planned.

I don't know why you're even applying Nen limitations on Meruem as though it matters. The only reason Gon stands a chance is because he rivalled the King. The King is made to basically break the Nen system.

We don't even know if Specialists conform to the diagram either. Chrollo's Enhancement is enough to tank Silva's punches and Hatsu. Pitou who is also specialist would destroy Uvogin even though he's Master Enhancer.

And you can't even compare Gon and Meruem's intelligence or talent. Meruem a few weeks old is already equal to Gon's full potential hardly without eating anything. He could use Nen instinctively when he was born. Gon trained for months to get to his level at Chimaera Ant.
 
netero only had attack speed over meruem and that's it his aura is way less then even the royal guard and meruem plan worked sense netero attack did no dmg to him so he could let him self get hit over and over but gon san attack are more powerful he is on another level one kick from him broke pitou the fight was over everything else was just over kill

gon san also breaks the nen system the dude could blow up a forest with a punch the only character with a dc feat better than that is post rose meruem when he uses youpi rage blast but like I said this is pre rose gon as him beat in range with paper and scissors pitou seems to think there aura is around the same level as well so in this case I can use nen limitation if they have the same amount of aura the one who can use enhancement to enhance there attack and defense the best will have the edge in this case it's gon san netero never even uses his enhancer powers during any of the fights we see his hatsu is emission so we don't even know how good is at it and like I said gon as way more aura then the royal guard do which means gon san >>>>> netero in power so let's just stop bring netero up he not in the same league as gon san

we don't know how skilled silva and zeno are in enhancement there transmuter first which mean they can get a 80% at most but does not mean they have it same for chrollo gon was a enhancer but knuckle punch did more gon had 150 aura with each punch and knuckle did like 180 but with that a side gon san as the better feat with his attack and as far more option in this fight this is gon who as master his powers so he as 100% master of enhencment

and yes pitou would beat uvogin but pitou as more far more aura then any of the spiders gon san and prerose meruem are close so it not the same
 
The main thing is Meruem was able to foresee Netero's unconscious bias even though Netero literally had unlimited ways to attack. Then when Netero adjusted to attack in a way that couldn't even be called unconscious bias, Meruem was still able to foresee. Gon who has no feat of adjusting his unconscious bias and attacks in a limited pattern will be read like a book.

Gon doesn't break the Nen system. He's an Enhancer who has a ludicrous amount of aura and high output of it. He didn't blow up the whole forest just a part and also we can't really say how powerful that attack was. Adult Gon is a mystery all we know is he's comparable to the King. Range doesn't really matter since the King can just dodge scissors and paper and Gon in this form is a hand to hand fighter he doesn't really rely on anything besides rock. Gon with Rock should have more power than the King because of the risk limitation which is an quantifiable boost in power.

Meruem breaks the Nen system. Even Pitou. Pitou can create Hatsu on a whim of any Nen category by just desiring it. She's a specialist but created an overpowered ability based on Enhancement. Her defences are immense which also speaks for a Enhancement.

If we go by the Nen system Chrollo would be Level 4 in Enhancement whilst Zeno and Silva would be Level 8 yet he can tank their Hatsu. Zeno and Silva are Nen masters so to say they aren't even above Level 4 in Enhancement is asinine.

Aura amount doesn't matter here. It's about Aura output and how well it can be used for certain things. For Kortopi he has a huge amount of aura but can use it more efficiently for conjuration then enhancement. Uvogin who is a master Enhancer has a lower aura amount but if we go by the diagram he'd be able to use Enhancement techniques up to Level 10 whilst Pitou would only be Level 4. This doesn't make any sense considering Pitou can use top tier Enhancement abilities which go beyond Level 4.

Meruem doesn't have these Level limitations he can use all of them to Level 10. And it's arguable whether Specialists even conform to the diagram seeing how broad it is.

So Meruem would win because for Rock, Gon needs to charge up, which Meruem will not allow him to. Gon needed several Rocks to destroy Pitou's skull. He'll need a lot more to significantly damage Meruem. Meruem is not only way better in hand to hand combat and more agile. He's also significantly smarter and can uncover Gon's unconscious bias and capitalise. Meruem can only get stronger through biting and eating parts of Gon, even skin will give him an amp. Futhermore Meruem could just improve rapidly in the fight as well so I'm not seeing how Gon wins.
 
pitou could make a hatsu on a whim but guess what tserriednich created a super op hatsu with out even trying I guess he breaks the nen system too

what I was trying to say was gon san and meruem should have close to the same level of aura pitou who's been around the king sense he was born thought they were close and gon was so fast that pitou could not even react you keep bring up netero even tho I don't think he in the same league as gon san netero does not have the attack power to hurt meruem and I don't think he could even beat the royal guard netero had a super fast attack but did not have the aura to hurt the king gon san being lvl 10 with around the same level of aura as the king is not the same the king will have a much harder time trying to hurt gon san gon can use enhancement on his voice just like uvogin did and as a adult it will be way stronger then what we saw from uvogin

you think that the only way for gon to hurt meruem is with rock but I don't think that's the case first of all with specialist we are told that there hatsu is just something that does not fit with the other nen classes like stealing powers and seeing into the future the series never says they can master all nen classes and base on what uvogin said only a master enhancer could block his attack if specialist were as you said then he would say enhancer and specialist but he did not

the facts are that we never got to see the full potential gon san he never used paper or scissors but why would he when fighting pitou someone who he could smash with easy when facing meruem gon would fight with everything he as gon not this dumb like the fanbase thinks we see him thinking and coming up with new ways to use jajanken all the time like when he used paper as a cover to get behide knuckle and then use rock or making knuckle think he would use rock so knuckle would try to stop him like you said the king would but gon used the charge up time of jajanken to setup a feint so even if meruem finds out about the charge up time gon uses that to setup new stuff killua even said even if people find out about it it only makes jajanken more dangerous as then the opponent as to find out if it a feint or what attack it will be and like I said gon can use paper and scissors for combo attacks and meruem going to have a hard time with that

meruem plan works because he could tank all of netero attacks so he had time to find out a way to win after taking thousands of hits gon with more aura then netero as attack power far greater then what old netero can do so that plan wont work

we never even have feats for pre rose meruem attack power that even good like he makes a small hole in the chimera ant base he take netero arm and leg who's defense should be below even the royal guard sense he as less aura then they do gon san kick had pitou in the sky with just a normal kick his aura mad wind force his rock had pitou flying across the forest I think gon san as the better feats
 
Hoo boy, time for a debunk.

"pitou could make a hatsu on a whim but guess what tserriednich created a super op hatsu with out even trying I guess he breaks the nen system too"

Tserriednich is a Nen Genius, even better than Gon and Killua. Nen abilities are born out of the user's innermost desires, and Tserriednich's desire was to possess the power to stand atop his siblings in the Succession Contest. Neferpitou breaks the system because she was able to use Nen the moment she was born, and was able to create a unique Hatsu just hours after birth.

"what I was trying to say was gon san and meruem should have close to the same level of aura pitou who's been around the king sense he was born thought they were close and gon was so fast that pitou could not even react you keep bring up netero even tho I don't think he in the same league as gon san netero does not have the attack power to hurt meruem and I don't think he could even beat the royal guard netero had a super fast attack but did not have the aura to hurt the king gon san being lvl 10 with around the same level of aura as the king is not the same the king will have a much harder time trying to hurt gon san gon can use enhancement on his voice just like uvogin did and as a adult it will be way stronger then what we saw from uvogin"

It doesn't matter if Adult Gon has aura reserves comparable to Meruem because as Morel says, aura output isn't what determines a fight. Gon blitzing Pitou means nothing because Netero did the exact same thing. His Bodhisattva was so fast that Pitou literally did not understand what just happened and thought his attack came from another dimension. Netero is certainly able to defeat any Royal Guard in a straight up one on one fight as well. For one thing, none of them come even close to Meruem's level of intelligence and skill, and two, Meruem is easily the most durable character in the entire series, far outclassing the RGs. If Netero used Zero Hand on those 3, they would likely be knocked unconscious at the very least.

"you think that the only way for gon to hurt meruem is with rock but I don't think that's the case first of all with specialist we are told that there hatsu is just something that does not fit with the other nen classes like stealing powers and seeing into the future the series never says they can master all nen classes and base on what uvogin said only a master enhancer could block his attack if specialist were as you said then he would say enhancer and specialist but he did not"

I never said Meruem mastered every single Nen category, and I know being a Specialist doesn't mean mastery in every single category. After all, characters like Neon Nostrade and Meleoron exist. What I said was that Meruem's base stats alone is superior to any Enhancer shown in the series, because again, Meruem was created for sole purpose of breaking the Nen system.

"the facts are that we never got to see the full potential gon san he never used paper or scissors but why would he when fighting pitou someone who he could smash with easy when facing meruem gon would fight with everything he as gon not this dumb like the fanbase thinks we see him thinking and coming up with new ways to use jajanken all the time like when he used paper as a cover to get behide knuckle and then use rock or making knuckle think he would use rock so knuckle would try to stop him like you said the king would but gon used the charge up time of jajanken to setup a feint so even if meruem finds out about the charge up time gon uses that to setup new stuff killua even said even if people find out about it it only makes jajanken more dangerous as then the opponent as to find out if it a feint or what attack it will be and like I said gon can use paper and scissors for combo attacks and meruem going to have a hard time with that"

I mean, a full powered Jajanken right in Neferpitou's face didn't even instakill her so he's not as powerful as you might believe he is. His Scissor and Paper attack is also a lot weaker than his Rock because his natural category is Enhancer. Knuckle makes his very clear in their sparring session. Rock and Paper use the same amount of aura, but since Gon can never fully master an emitter technique, Paper would only be a fraction of Rock's strength. Gon's adaptation is impressive but it's not going to work on someone like Meruem, because he's going to see that shit coming a mile away. It doesn't matter if he feints or tries to use other techniques as cover, Meruem will see right through all of them like he was a piece in Gungi. I don't think you quite understand just how vast the difference in intelligence is between them. There's a reason why Meruem is ranked Extraordinary Genius and Gon is only Above Average.

"meruem plan works because he could tank all of netero attacks so he had time to find out a way to win after taking thousands of hits gon with more aura then netero as attack power far greater then what old netero can do so that plan wont work"

Meruem needed time to figure out Netero's attack patterns because Netero literally had limitless options of defense. Gon is nowhere near as versatile or skilled and does not have any defense options. I will ask you again: How exactly does Gon land a hit on Meruem if Meruem can simply predict what he's going to do and dodge and then immediately counter attack?

"we never even have feats for pre rose meruem attack power that even good like he makes a small hole in the chimera ant base he take netero arm and leg who's defense should be below even the royal guard sense he as less aura then they do gon san kick had pitou in the sky with just a normal kick his aura mad wind force his rock had pitou flying across the forest I think gon san as the better feats" Gon also did not send Neferpitou into the air with a normal kick. He used Ko for that to happen. Gon sending Pitou travelling across a forest isn't exactly impressive since Netero was capable of doing the exact same thing.
 
hoo boy time for a debunk

it was never said that tserriednich was more of a nen genius then gon or killua you just using headcanon now pitou could use nen from after being born but so what gon as more potential then she does also her hatsu not that unique being able to control people and healing others or using manipulation on your self for more power is stuff we see none specialist do in fact not sure if any of her powers use specialization tserriednich power is something we have not seen in the series and it's more hax too

pitou did not understand gon movements and could not react to them just like netero so what your point morel said that before seeing the royal guard and in the most recent arc kurapika feeling halkenburg aura said he would lose to him and that he could not face someone with that much aura people all ways talk about how much aura gon as and it shown having more aura will make you stronger that why they train ren

meruem base stats are better then any enhancer but gon san is not any enhancer the dude as power greater then any human we see and like I said what feats do pre rose meruem have for attack power that better then gon blowing up part of a forest none not sure if it was you or someone else but one of you guys said specialist don't fellow the nen rules and that true for there hatsu but it never said that they could master the other nen classes just that there hatsu was something that does not fit wih the rest

the reason I keep bring up gon being a enhancer is because gon and meruem will have close to the same level of aura for this fight so gon will have the edge you keep saying that meruem will just dodge all of his attack but gon san is one of the fastest character in the series up there with meruem and netero

as for pitou you have to remember that gon wanted pitou to suffer for what she did to kite look at the rocks he used on her as killua come they did nothing to the place around gon then when pitou came back using nen after death and was stronger he used a much bigger rock the blow up part of the forest to stop her that should show you that he was holding back

knuckle said paper and scissor would be weaker then rock that is true but gon can still use 80% in both transmutation and emission look at what zeno and silva can do with emisson and they both only have 60% at most . most of zeno attack use transmutation and emission but he could launch huge attacks that could cover the whole palace then there is silva who could shake a building and also you have to remember that it takes years as biscuit said to master hatsu knuckle said that to a gon who had only began using emisson and transmutation for a few months not that long ago gon san is gon at his strongest gon ask for all the nen power he would ever have so emisson and transmutation powers will be crazy

netero did the same thing but did no dmg and yes ik you will just say he was not trying to hurt her but it was still a attack

ik that meruem will win the vote but these are my reason for going with gon
 
gon san as speed feats that put him in the same league as netero and pre rose meruem you seem to think that meruem will just remove gon arm and leg like with netero but gon san should scale past what meruem as in attack and defence or at least be on the same level you shown nothing that shows meruem is faster and that precognition of his is not true precongnition he can't see into the future like say neon or tserriednich he can guess what his opponent might do after learning how they fight but like I said taking hits from gon san is not a good idea for him that plan only works because netero could not hurt him something gon can do
 
also you say lmao but your the one who brought up the whole gon emisson and transmutation thing along the the pitou stuff everything I said was just me responding to what you said
 
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