MLP Top Tier downgrade

[JC245]

So, I was looking at some of the pages, when I came across this on Discord's page

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Discord

Why is Discord, from the cartoon, listed as being 2-C? The IDW version I can understand givin the comic counterparts have shown to be much more powerful than their canon counterparts, but this guy hasn't shown anything that would qualify him as being 2-C. He's being listed as universal due to overpowering Celestia and Luna, and because of a couple of statements.

However, the only reason their listed as being universal is because Luna as Nightmare Moon was able to momentarily hold off against the Elements and Celestia was stated to have 'infinite power' in the COMICS.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Princess_Celestia https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Elements_of_Harmony

Celestia's page already is not credible because 1) It's a statement that doesn't really add up 2) It's from a different canon, we have a separate page for the IDW comics

What about the Elements then? Apparently their considered universal in power due to human Twilight almost destroying the human universe...why is this not considered an outlier? In the entirety of the show none of the top tier characters have ever displayed this kind of power. The most we've ever gotten are the Alicorn sisters casually moving the stars, which albeit impressive, is nowhere near the universal scale.


There's also some scaling that helps to prove my point. In the series lore, it's been said that it took six powerful unicorns to be able to raise and set the sun and moon each day, but did so with a great amount of struggle. And in season 4, Tirek, using all the magic from the pony's of Equestria, was able to easily overpower Discord and matched Twilight (who was using the combined power of 4 Alicorns).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaDq3Fow9zQ&list=PLkYcDWKYHQpY9sIWL8TJhx8YvwJ7Pap2E&index=3

At best these characters are multi-solar system level.

At the very least I would like to see the Likely Low 2-C to be changed to Possibly Low 2-C.

 

[JC245]

Hold on, the screenshots didn't transfer for whatever reason

Nv, Just going to leave the links

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Evidently you haven't been keeping up with MLP revisions recently, because the comics that the statements come from we now consider to be canon, that and corroboration from statements from the show is the reason for the ratings. You are correct that most of their show feats are not Low 2-C. (Though it wouldn't be the first time someone was made Low 2-C only because of statements on here.) However, none of them are straight up Low 2-C from the statements, hence the "Possibly" and "Likely" ratings, there is no reason to downgrade them.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

The only ones who are straight up Low 2-C are those directly scaling to or above the Elements who performed the feat, as they have truly no anti-feats for Midnight Sparkle's performed feat.

 

[JC245]

While the feat isn't contradictory, much like the Buuhan scream it is very much an outlier/inconsistencie in the series

 

[JC245]

The difference between Bill and MLP though is that one is handled mostly by one guy while the other has entirely different writers than the ones from the comics. I thought the fandom didn't consider the comics to be canon due to a lot of inconsistencies

 

[CinnabarManx421]

These specific comics we consider to be canon because they don't follow the main comic continuity and tie more into the show than any other IDW comics, they basically provide the set up to Season 7. That and it would follow Hasbro's rule that any comic that doesn't contradict the cartoon is considered to be canon, hence the ratings.

 

[JC245]

Still feels wrong and a little nitpicky, but I'll let it go