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Doing a lot of threads today, but yea this will probably be long.
Lets start with Nagumo Hajime.
He needs 4 keys, the first two are fine, but in addition he needs two more, they should be after evolving with sublimation magic and end of series or during his fight with Ehito? Lets just stick with after evolving with sublimation magic and end of series to keep things simple.
Before i get to all the ap upgrades and hax upgrades, have to address the characters durability. Before i thought they were glass canons due to the fact that they seemingly got hurt by weak attacks, after finishing the series i have learned a number of things. For one those attacks weren't weak since even from the first arc of the series Hajime was already town level since a monster who shows up later on could take on monsters from the 90th level of the abyss, that monster, inaba fought equally with Eri, who was made an apostle, apostles are even with Hajime after compensation. Hajime in the first arc conquered Orcus Labyrinth which had a 100 levels but that's only cause he had Yue's help, he had trouble with Tio Clarce, whom he stated was on the level of monsters of the 90th level of the abyss.
The 2nd reason why they aren't glass canons is that they tank attacks from people comparable to them, although this is due to them having body strengthening abilities. Naturally most aren't durability, for example just after compensation hajime feel from a high place in the air and hurt his leg, he hadn't yet learned any body strengthening techniques, later on he did and tanked various attacks.
So back to the ap upgrades, after evolving with sublimation magic, Hajime stated that even without using limit break he could defeat apostles. In other words he is superior to his self from before which makes him At least Town level and High Hypersonic. With Limit Break he is Large Town level (Pierced through a pillar of light Yue couldn't) and Massively Hypersonic (Limit Break makes him 3 times faster).
End of series he is Island level or maybe Large Island level i am not sure, he fought evenly with Ehito, basically a god, who is thousands of years old and prolonged his life using magic but when that came to an end, he created the Holy Precincts because he had no vessel to use and existed only as a soul, the precincts has various spaces a space with a city, a space where the ground and sky are reversed, a space where countless white blocks were floating, a space where there were only large mountains like God Mountain towering over, and a space that was like a giant library where countless bookshelves were cluttered together. For reference the God Mountain is 8000m. The space with an ocean also had an island that was at least 5km in it due to Hajime sniping monster on that island who were 5km away.
After that is another space with floating islands which range from a dozen meters to a few kilometers with a gigantic island that is 10km. There are other spaces but no size given but as I have pointed, these spaces have numerous mountains, islands and an ocean so not quite sure exactly where to scale Nagumo.
After Ehto was killed by Nagumo the spaces instantly started crumbing, so these ratings are legit.
End of Series hajime should also be Massively Hypersonic, he dodged lightning speed attacks from Ehito. Whether it's real lightning or not, Ehito is far superior to Mikhai whose lighting attack is 150 km per second.
Ok so done with Hajime, not gonna bother with including his abilities like Information Manipulation and Existence Erasure in this thread, among other haxed things as this is already too long.
Shia Haulia should also have a key for after evolving with sublimation magic, she would be Large Town level for being able to evenly match Yue. End of series she should be equal to hajime as she is stated to be superior to him in terms of physical stats. So Island level or whatever we decide Ehito's feat as and Massively Hypersonic. She also has abilities like Intangibility among others.
Tio Clarce should be be comparable to Shia and Hajime end of series.
Yue should also be comparable to Ehito end of series, since Ehito literally took over her body and boosted it, and Yue is a genius, capable of using all the magic Ehito could, i don't see why she shouldn't scale.
Lets start with Nagumo Hajime.
He needs 4 keys, the first two are fine, but in addition he needs two more, they should be after evolving with sublimation magic and end of series or during his fight with Ehito? Lets just stick with after evolving with sublimation magic and end of series to keep things simple.
Before i get to all the ap upgrades and hax upgrades, have to address the characters durability. Before i thought they were glass canons due to the fact that they seemingly got hurt by weak attacks, after finishing the series i have learned a number of things. For one those attacks weren't weak since even from the first arc of the series Hajime was already town level since a monster who shows up later on could take on monsters from the 90th level of the abyss, that monster, inaba fought equally with Eri, who was made an apostle, apostles are even with Hajime after compensation. Hajime in the first arc conquered Orcus Labyrinth which had a 100 levels but that's only cause he had Yue's help, he had trouble with Tio Clarce, whom he stated was on the level of monsters of the 90th level of the abyss.
The 2nd reason why they aren't glass canons is that they tank attacks from people comparable to them, although this is due to them having body strengthening abilities. Naturally most aren't durability, for example just after compensation hajime feel from a high place in the air and hurt his leg, he hadn't yet learned any body strengthening techniques, later on he did and tanked various attacks.
So back to the ap upgrades, after evolving with sublimation magic, Hajime stated that even without using limit break he could defeat apostles. In other words he is superior to his self from before which makes him At least Town level and High Hypersonic. With Limit Break he is Large Town level (Pierced through a pillar of light Yue couldn't) and Massively Hypersonic (Limit Break makes him 3 times faster).
End of series he is Island level or maybe Large Island level i am not sure, he fought evenly with Ehito, basically a god, who is thousands of years old and prolonged his life using magic but when that came to an end, he created the Holy Precincts because he had no vessel to use and existed only as a soul, the precincts has various spaces a space with a city, a space where the ground and sky are reversed, a space where countless white blocks were floating, a space where there were only large mountains like God Mountain towering over, and a space that was like a giant library where countless bookshelves were cluttered together. For reference the God Mountain is 8000m. The space with an ocean also had an island that was at least 5km in it due to Hajime sniping monster on that island who were 5km away.
After that is another space with floating islands which range from a dozen meters to a few kilometers with a gigantic island that is 10km. There are other spaces but no size given but as I have pointed, these spaces have numerous mountains, islands and an ocean so not quite sure exactly where to scale Nagumo.
After Ehto was killed by Nagumo the spaces instantly started crumbing, so these ratings are legit.
End of Series hajime should also be Massively Hypersonic, he dodged lightning speed attacks from Ehito. Whether it's real lightning or not, Ehito is far superior to Mikhai whose lighting attack is 150 km per second.
Ok so done with Hajime, not gonna bother with including his abilities like Information Manipulation and Existence Erasure in this thread, among other haxed things as this is already too long.
Shia Haulia should also have a key for after evolving with sublimation magic, she would be Large Town level for being able to evenly match Yue. End of series she should be equal to hajime as she is stated to be superior to him in terms of physical stats. So Island level or whatever we decide Ehito's feat as and Massively Hypersonic. She also has abilities like Intangibility among others.
Tio Clarce should be be comparable to Shia and Hajime end of series.
Yue should also be comparable to Ehito end of series, since Ehito literally took over her body and boosted it, and Yue is a genius, capable of using all the magic Ehito could, i don't see why she shouldn't scale.
