Mahoraga vs Mayuri Kurotsuchi

[Johner2133451]

Mahoraga

Eight-Handled Sword Divergent Sila Divine General Mahoraga (八やつ握かの剣つるぎ異い戒かい神しん将しょう魔ま虚こ羅ら, Yatsuka-no-Tsurugi Ikaishinshō Makora?) is the most powerful shikigami of the Ten Shadows Technique. In order to summon this entity, an individual must stretch out both hands and recite the incantation...

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Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Mayuri Kurotsuchi (涅くろつち マユリ, Kurotsuchi Mayuri?) is the captain of the 12th Division in the Gotei 13 and 2nd president of the Shinigami Research Institute. His previous lieutenant was Nemu Kurotsuchi, his artificially-created "daughter" and his current lieutenant is Akon. He formerly served as...

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Speed equalized

 

[Entity]

Is this a stomp?

 

[Johner2133451]

Is this a stomp?

I don't think so since both can tank each other basic hits. Mahoraga also has that dura neg via spatial manip as last resort

 

[Pearly0nsams]

have you seen the ap gap? Mahoraga ain't tanking anything and his regen is only mid.

Stomp imo.

 

[Johner2133451]

have you seen the ap gap? Mahoraga ain't tanking anything and his regen is only mid.

Stomp imo.

Well Mahoraga can gain invulnerability by adaptation like adapting to infinite pressure

• Limited Invulnerability (Once fully adapted to a phenomenon, Mahoraga becomes completely immune to said phenomenon. It is implied that he survived the initial onslaught of Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine due to adapting to the phenomenon of slashing attacks in general and not merely Sukuna's Dismantle attack. Even Yorozu creating a perfect sphere that applies infinite pressure onto whatever comes into contact with it was useless against Mahoraga due to him already having adapted to the liquid metal she used for her constructions

It is also in character for Mayuri to not completely kill something as he prefers to capture them for experiments

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Something something Reiatsu Crush gg

 

[Johner2133451]

Something something Reiatsu Crush gg

I think Mahoraga would adapt to soul crush considering soul damage is something that exists in JJK. And stated that he can adapt to all phenomenon

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Soul crush is instant and would just immediately kill or incap him, Mahoraga has no time to adapt to soul crush at all.

 

[Johner2133451]

Soul crush is instant and would just immediately kill or incap him

Depends on the range. Since Mahoraga is out of Mayuri's soul crush range, he can simply "see it" and try adapt it like he did with Yozuru's infinite pressure

 

[Johner2133451]

Also I just realized Mahoraga is already immune to soul crush due to it being inorganic, as he's made of shadows and energy. So he technically don't have a soul in the first place

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Inorganic physology isnt on the profile. so

 

[Johner2133451]

Inorganic physology isnt on the profile. so

Well it was mentioned here https://vsbattles.com/threads/mahoraga-vs-ger.174955/post-6881778

It could be a mistake but I think Mahoraga sensing soul crush from outside and adapt it like he did with Yozuru's infinite pressure, he can gain invulnerability that way

 

[Pearly0nsams]

Also I just realized Mahoraga is already immune to soul crush due to it being inorganic, as he's made of shadows and energy. So he technically don't have a soul in the first place

Hes made out of ce just like cursed sprits and cursed sprits has soul.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

He also doesnt seem any way to harm souls at all, nor can even see Mayuri.

 

[Johner2133451]

He also doesnt seem any way to harm souls at all, nor can even see Mayuri.

Mahoraga has layered enhanced senses/extrasensory as he can see Sukuna's slashes that are invisible, even to sorcerers who can see invisible cursed spirits

• Enhanced Senses & Extrasensory Perception (Mahoraga was capable of seeing Sukuna's slashes, which are invisible to sorcerers and Cursed Spirits, and deflect them once it adapted to the phenomenon

And Mahoraga can harm souls via his adaptation (since cursed spirits in jjk are intangible)

Cursed Energy Manipulation

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He also has dura neg via spatial manip (which bypass invulnerability as cursed spirits have them)

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

He still doesnt have NPI, and that would be NLF to his adaptation since he hasnt shown the ablity to gain NPI. And that is required to harm Mayuri

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Unironically, Mahoragas page doesnt have cursed energy link. so he gets ****** due to his profile being so ass

 

[Johner2133451]

He still doesnt have NPI, and that would be NLF to his adaptation since he hasnt shown the ablity to gain NPI. And that is required to harm Mayuri

I don't believe is NLF as stated that he can adapt to all things in the verse. He also has this

• Energy Manipulation (The Sword of Extermination erases curses with positive energy)

Mahoraga technically should have this in his profile as he has cursed energy

Cursed Energy Manipulation

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Hes made out of ce just like cursed sprits and cursed sprits has soul.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

His profile is so ass to work with lmfao.

 

[Pearly0nsams]

neither his senses nor adaption doing anything here + ap gap is huge + he has no answer to Soul crush nor he doing anything to Mayuri.

 

[Arkenis]

Mahoraga has layered enhanced senses/extrasensory as he can see Sukuna's slashes that are invisible, even to sorcerers who can see invisible cursed spirits

• Enhanced Senses & Extrasensory Perception (Mahoraga was capable of seeing Sukuna's slashes, which are invisible to sorcerers and Cursed Spirits, and deflect them once it adapted to the phenomenon

And Mahoraga can harm souls via his adaptation (since cursed spirits in jjk are intangible)

Cursed Energy Manipulation

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He also has dura neg via spatial manip (which bypass invulnerability as cursed spirits have them)

Not the same invis

 

[Johner2133451]

neither his senses nor adaption doing anything here + ap gap is huge + he has no answer to Soul crush nor he doing anything to Mayuri.

I actually talked with the JJK supporters and they did mention that Mahoraga has no soul, therefore immune to soul crush https://vsbattles.com/threads/jujutsu-kaisen-discussion-page-1.68289/post-6935803

As for AP gap, Mahoraga has dura neg as I previously mention

 

[Johner2133451]

Not the same invis

Wdym by not same invis?

 

[Pearly0nsams]

I actually talked with the JJK supporters and they did mention that Mahoraga has no soul, therefore immune to soul crush https://vsbattles.com/threads/jujutsu-kaisen-discussion-page-1.68289/post-6935803

Not being an independent being doesn't mean he doesn't have a soul...

Tell him to get this on Mahoragas profile.

As for AP gap, Mahoraga has dura neg as I previously mention

no NPI, sadly.

 

[Arkenis]

Wdym by not same invis?

Ce and Shrine aren’t invis because they’re souls/spiritual like how Shinigami are. Ce/curses are invis because they’re in a different light spectrum. Shinigamis are invis as souls and are beyond ghosts. Almost no one can see the contours of souls in jjk, Mahoraga is no different.

 

[Johner2133451]

Not being an independent being doesn't mean he doesn't have a soul...

Tell him to get this on Mahoragas profile.



no NPI, sadly.

Here it says Mahoraga can erase cursed spirits so it's safe to say it's NPI

• Energy Manipulation (The Sword of Extermination erases curses with positive energy)

Even if you don't believe in it, I don't have any reason it's nlf for Maho to adapt to have NPI. Even Sukuna has said "If I were be a cursed spirit, that blow would have killed me"

Ce and Shrine aren’t invis because they’re souls/spiritual like how Shinigami are. Ce/curses are invis because they’re in a different light spectrum. Shinigamis are invis as souls and are beyond ghosts. Almost no one can see the contours of souls in jjk, Mahoraga is no different.

Wouldn't verse equalized cover that?

 

[Johner2133451]

But I think this match can be delayed as Mahoraga's profile seems to lack a lot of things like not even have his universal energy system

 

[Arkenis]

Well Mahoraga can gain invulnerability by adaptation like adapting to infinite pressure

• Limited Invulnerability (Once fully adapted to a phenomenon, Mahoraga becomes completely immune to said phenomenon. It is implied that he survived the initial onslaught of Sukuna's Malevolent Shrine due to adapting to the phenomenon of slashing attacks in general and not merely Sukuna's Dismantle attack. Even Yorozu creating a perfect sphere that applies infinite pressure onto whatever comes into contact with it was useless against Mahoraga due to him already having adapted to the liquid metal she used for her constructions

It is also in character for Mayuri to not completely kill something as he prefers to capture them for experiments

This is AFTER he adapted to her ct overall not the infinite pressure. So no he can’t adapt to Mayuri flicking his head.

 

[Arkenis]

Wouldn't verse equalized cover that?

Not how verse equalization works.

But I think this match can be delayed as Mahoraga's profile seems to lack a lot of things like not even have his universal energy system

The match is undoable because Mayuri one shots if he wants to. Mayuri will also deduce he needs to use multiple attacks before Maho adapts, which he has plenty of different attacks.

 

[ssgengar]

Yeah Mayuri shit stomps lmao

 

[Johner2133451]

This is AFTER he adapted to her ct overall not the infinite pressure. So no he can’t adapt to Mayuri flicking his head.

In character, Mayuri would try do testing to his enemies if they seem unknown or interesting. He would try stabbing Mahoraga first and sees what it can do. After Maho adapts to it, Mayuri would try first to capture it for his science progression (did so like with Pernida)

 

[Johner2133451]

Not how verse equalization works.

The match is undoable because Mayuri one shots if he wants to. Mayuri will also deduce he needs to use multiple attacks before Maho adapts, which he has plenty of different attacks.

So how does verse equalization works?

 

[Pearly0nsams]

Here it says Mahoraga can erase cursed spirits so it's safe to say it's NPI

• Energy Manipulation (The Sword of Extermination erases curses with positive energy)

Even if you don't believe in it, I don't have any reason it's nlf for Maho to adapt to have NPI. Even Sukuna has said "If I were be a cursed spirit, that blow would have killed me"

Cursed "spirits" are NOTHING like ghosts, sprits or souls. They are NOT spiritual beings by nature. They can't interact with real spirits either.

How Mahoraga is suppossed to adapt something he can't even interact in first place?????????

 

[Arkenis]

In character, Mayuri would try do testing to his enemies if they seem unknown or interesting. He would try stabbing Mahoraga first and sees what it can do. After Maho adapts to it, Mayuri would try first to capture it for his science progression (did so like with Pernida)

He also would try to win as sba says.

So how does verse equalization works?

Equalization is for two power systems that are similar. Reishi and ce aren’t the same. And like I said even within jjk the characters can’t see the soul, so equalizing does nothing. Its not a matter of verse mechanics, they are just two different invisibility perception.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Honestly, like considering how Mayuri Is. He would just do an anti mahoraga thing longer before Mahoraga can hope to interact with his

 

[Arkenis]

Another issue is how complex Mayuri’s stuff could be, Maho took time to adapt to infinity fully, the hax can still effect him and knowing Mayuri, he’ll pile them on to see how much he can take inevitably killing him and being disappointed

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Mayuri: I thought you were stronger, and I thought you were more intreasting

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Mayuri gives him the Pernida treatment, but worse.

 

[Hellscream]

Who let @Johner2133451 cook again, time to pull up @Robo432343

 

[Ebihara]

johner and Reiatsu Crush stomp name a better duo.