Macroversal level should be the added as the next section to the Tiering System.

[Magi_Hussie]

Many people were mentioning about this level of power before many times & I was wondering that this should be the new section to the Tiering System.


https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System

 

[Promestein]

Where'd it even go

 

[Kaltias]

Wouldn't it apply only to Dragon Ball though.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

What the hell does that even mean

 

[Kaltias]

What the hell does that even mean

I think it means "multiple universes contained in a single space-time continuum" like the Dragon Ball "multiverse"

 

[Promestein]

That's not distinct from Universe level

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Macroversal isn't a thing, it's a term only used by Google+ Dragon Ball fans.

 

[ItalianGuy1234]

^Accuracy at its finest

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

Macroversal isn't a thing, it's a term only used by Google+ Dragon Ball fans.

It's used by Jaco. A blaster on his ship is called 'Macroverse cannon". So no, this isn't a fan term.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

What is a macroverse supposed to be even composed of?

 

[Promestein]

It's used by Jaco. A blaster on his ship is called 'Macroverse cannon". So no, this isn't a fan term.

Unless you're saying Jaco is "Macroversal", that term means nothing in that context

 

[Magi_Hussie]

Where'd it even go

It will most likely go in Tier 3 between Universal & High Universal level.

 

[Legion350]

@Magi That isn't possible

 

[Magi_Hussie]

@Magi That isn't possible

Tbh, I thought that too when I read the definition after seeing some people mentioning about this level of power.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

@Superman77 Well it technically would be. While I certainly do not think it is nessesary, there is an infinite amount of power between 3-A and High 3-A, so a quantifiable increase from 3-A to something higher, yet not infintely higher, would be possible. Once again, I don't think this is needed but I don't think its impossibility is the problem.

 

[Promestein]

The thing is, universes in fiction are all sorts of different sizes, often the size of our observable universe, or much larger, but still not as large as the universe is in estimates. We have no way to judge the specific scale of something as vague as "Macroversal" - as we have no idea how big the universes it encompasses are - only that it's higher than baseline universe level, which we already know anyways, so it's unneeded.

 

[Ryukama]

If we adamantly refuse to use Marvel terms like "Megaverse" and "Omniverse," then I do not think we should treat Dragon Ball's "Macroverse" any different.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

The thing is, universes in fiction are all sorts of different sizes, often the size of our observable universe, or much larger, but still not as large as the universe is in estimates. We have no way to judge the specific scale of something as vague as "Macroversal" - as we have no idea how big the universes it encompasses are - only that it's higher than baseline universe level, which we already know anyways, so it's unneeded.

'Shrugs' I guess so.

 

[Magi_Hussie]

If we adamantly refuse to use Marvel terms like "Megaverse" and "Omniverse," then I do not think we should treat Dragon Ball's "Macroverse" any different.

I agree with that.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

@Prom, No, that logic is fallacious. It's the name of his attack, not the power. It's a legit term used in the franchise.


Anyways, here's the question:


If destroying a dimension and its flow of time when the dimension itself is far smaller than our universe would make it an unquantifiable feat, then why is destroying a dimension/universe far greater than a regular Universes size only Universe level, instead of something higher?


Logically, it should be:

Universe larger than ours > General Universe > Smaller universe/Dimension


Macroverse applies to larger scale Universes, such as the DBuniverses.

 

[Promestein]

Jaco's weapon's name has nothing to do with the size of the universe or the structure. In that context, the term has no meaning and is therefore irrelevant.

Because Universe level is infinitely wide and since we don't know the size of our own universe we can't judge what's larger. For all we know, the DB universe could be insignificantly small in comparison to ours. Even Amitabha, who is vastly larger than all but the most generous (read: wanked) assumptions on the sizes of DB universes is smaller than some non-infinite models of our own universe. Universe level isn't changing.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Sparky Universe level only applies to destroying the physical contents of a universe and not it's space-time, so destroying a universe, no matter how large it is, is just a higher level of universe level.

Macroversal is unnecessary as universe level goes up to any finite level, while high universe level is infinite universe, but again this only refers to the physical content of a universe, destroying everything including space-time of a universe would be low 2-C.

But i can see where this is going, you will say, but what if someone destroyed a universe along with space-time, but that universe was larger than a normal universe? Just a higher level of low 2-C i think, and before you bring up the void universe of whatever that is infinite, even though it's infinite, it's still just low 2-C. I think the size of space-time is a bit irrelevant on a 4-D scale and to go to like multi-universe level you need multiple space-time continuums and not one regardless of how large that single space-time continuum is, 2 space time continuums> 1 space-time continuum even if it's infinite, at least that's how i understand it.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

It does when it comes to being fan-made or not, which was what I was pointing out. I'm not trying to get it used as a term on the wiki.


The Universe is estimated 250 times larger than the observable universe. However, that's an estimate. Right now, the DC Universes, DB Living Universe, etc, are all the same. Sure, that may change eventually, but as of now, they're roughly equal.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

This wouldn't be much different from Universe Level, since those "universes" are in the same space-time continuum, it would basically just be a big universe that happens to be divided in multiple pieces, so it would be pointless, not to mention that the only franchise I've ever seen using this term is Dragon Ball (Or, at least the DBZ fans use this term in G+, because they want Goku to be Multiversal in some way), overall, I personally think that it would be pointless.

 

[Sparky_"Dante"_Marky1234]

@Sparky Universe level only applies to destroying the physical contents of a universe and not it's space-time, so destroying a universe, no matter how large it is, is just a higher level of universe level.

I know, I prefer to say Universe level though. Technically, if you don't destroy time, you don't destroy the universe, so I consider destroying time as well as Universal, with the matter alone being Multi-Galaxy+

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

This is going nowhere, and no one but Sparky is arguing for it.