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Kumoko Vs Reinhard
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Izaaaa!! Hii
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The AP gap along with his EE attached to it? He could also tear her soul in half or soemthing
Anyways how will she stop Reinhard from resurrecting is my question
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Low Godly regen don't care about the AP gap, EE maybe
Kumoko has soul resistance 100x above baseline
BFR
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Fezzih_007
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For what reasons? He losing this.
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Is it really 100 times? Also i dont see the layering on her profile
He resists
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The profile pretty clearly states that it needs hundreds of simultaneous uses of soul destruction magic to kill her. That is indeed a feat vastly above baseline.
As the hax page explains, potency isn't exclusively measured in layers.
Her powers are above what he resist as I explained in my first post.
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Nr, that sounds more like her souls durability than hax resistance being above baseline
He resists BFR from Beatrice and Satella who have interdimensional range
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It's probably above baseline if it takes hundreds of top tier Soul EE spells to erase her soul.
Also, does Kumoko resist Reinhard's passive powernull?
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His powernull involves absorbing all the mana around him. It shouldn't affect anyone who doesn't require external energy sources to fight
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But it does null magicians, who do not use external mana.
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Yeah, no. Seeing as it's soul erasing hax it's soul resistance.
Neither of them have it listed or mentioned. And Kumoko can go in and out of pocket dimensions just as Beatrice does. So yeah, I think her feats are still better.
I doubt he can steal mana from the magic vacuum cleaner that Kumoko is. It's more the opposite way around. Her Evil Eyes will absorb his mana.
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The CRT is not even accepted yet.
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How does it null them?
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It's not in their range section, but it is listed as BFR. Al Shamak opens a hole to a different universe and banishes the target inside.
Reinhard has the lowest mana volume of any human in the series. And there's no reason to assume Kumoko's magic absorption is more effective than Reinhard's; in fact, Reinhard was completely unphased in the presence of Puck who was absorbing mana from the world at such an intetense rate that the world was being destroyed at absolute zero.
It can both destabilize magic that is used back into basic mana which he then absorbs, as well as directly absorb mana from the body, which has a nasty side effect of causing unconsciousness if he wills it. It's described as his physiology acting as a beacon for mana, causing it to turn away from anything or anyone else.
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passively steals their mana, also even if she does try to use magic it will automatically not work since she doesnt seem to have any powernull resistance
Zabazab but this match shouldnt be happeniing if a relevant crt is under construction
now that i think of it, isnt that a powernull resistance as well?
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At most it's a resistance to absorption- Reinhard is incapable of using any magic. Besides he already resists power nullification on his profile.
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Basically this isn't power null but absorption. He's absorbing their mana rendering them incapable of using it, the same applies to magic that's already been cast.
As DT has said, it seems Kumoko has a very large amount of magic power herself thus, to assume this absorption will completely render her powerless, Reinhard will need feats of doing so to someone with as much magic as her
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I could actually argue Reinhard still beats out that 100x soul resistance.
There's a character named Sirius who possesses an authority capable of warping the souls of an entire city.
If you equivalate that to a multiplier, that'd be a couple thousand times above baseline.
There's also the White Whale which can spirtually/mentally damage hundreds of people at once.
Soul Destruction in R:Z is treated as vastly superior to all other forms of soul manipulation in the verse, so Reinhard's Reid slash would reasonably be above those other instances of soul manipulation.
There's a character named Sirius who possesses an authority capable of warping the souls of an entire city.
If you equivalate that to a multiplier, that'd be a couple thousand times above baseline.
There's also the White Whale which can spirtually/mentally damage hundreds of people at once.
Soul Destruction in R:Z is treated as vastly superior to all other forms of soul manipulation in the verse, so Reinhard's Reid slash would reasonably be above those other instances of soul manipulation.
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Absorbing the mana is just a bonus, his presence still neutralizes the use of mana even if he doesn't absorb it, as mana will still unravel and turn away from everyone else.
Reinhard merely intending on fighting caused Emilia to both become incapable of using mana and even become light-headed. Emilia has such an enormous volume of mana that she can freeze a ~country-sized forest at absolute zero for well over a century.
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From the description you've provided, the neutralization is a result of not being able to use their mana cause it's being absorbed or is it actually something different?
I don't know how much that speaks to her mana volume, neither can I speak about Kumoko's. I'm just here to view the arguments and nitpick what I can
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This is how it's described by two different characters, both experts on magic:
The burden of being a novel character, we got no info on actual sizes, just that it's a giant forest in a huge world, to the point that it takes several years to explore & damage to it requires maps to be redrawn.
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i dont think thats accepted yet
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How is it not accepted? It's literally a part of Sirius' Authority that she can manipulate an entire city worth of souls. Pretty sure the scan is on the page, lol.
Reinhard's soul slashing would necessarily be superior due to how the author views soul hax.
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Thats't just range.
They affecting multiple people at once, that should't equal to multipliers.
He means, is not accepted that her authority have this "thounsands" number of potency.
You actually need a CRT to get accepted, for what i hear.
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It's not just range, though. The Authority literally has nothing to do with range.
It's already on the page. What exactly would I need accepted? Lol. It's literally an ability on the page, bro.
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For reference, the individual populations of the Five Great Cities in Lugunica, one of which is Priestella, range from 200,000 to 300,000 people.
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I talking about the white whale.
Is my B for not to clarify trought. For Sirius, since i would need to discuss her ability, i not gonna to talk about It. But there's is a problem with your logic.
I just said, you need to do a CRT to add this numbers of layers to her authority, wheter or not her ability is already on the wiki.
Like, the Nasuverse characters.
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You won't talk about it, but insist there's a problem with my logic?
This is unnecessary and incorrect.
I'm not talking about layers, I'm talking about multipliers. These are blatantly evident in the references provided on the page, goddamnit, Fezzih.
You are the WORST Re: Zero fan
(joke)
Fezzih_007
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Yeah.
I think someone going to point out, so i gonna hold off. Like, i really don't want to discuss her authority again, so i apolozige.
How so? I see a bunch of versers doing CRT to add layers to they ability.
Or explaining they abilities better, to make clear the multipliers. Like, Sirius page don't say she have 1000x above baseline of Soul potency.
Right, i said wrong.
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Reinhard can't actually do that cause Kumoko just dips into her god zone first thing, so no
Also, this isn't exactly the best argument given Kumoko at this point being far above her Arachne self in terms of the soul who had heresy nullification which had like 21+ layers due to just heresy magic alone this is also not bringing up the fact that Kumoko could have an additional 21+ layers via becoming able to resist abyssal magic.
There is also the fact that the whole bit of hundreds of users working together to kill a god becomes even more absurd when you learn the mechanics behind such being partially based upon the fact that their energy content is so absurd, easily making up the issue of scope you mentioned and more.
