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I've been following this site, specifically Naruto characters profiles for sometime now. While glossing around, I realise Kaguya is only considered planet level via her ETSB which is completely wrong. Kaguya should be Multi-planet level (Planet level +), and these are the premises that cause for substantiation.
Note: This doesn't suppose to merit an instant upgrade. I noticed Naruto universe is being revised by Gwynbleiddd. I'm not sure what his/her basis are; nevertheless I'd like this to be taken under advisement
To begin with, Kaguya created six dimensions, all which harbored planets. These dimensions were repeatedly stated to be hers, and they all seemed to be interconnected dimensionally. As Obito suggested, these dimensions were difficult to enter; such that entering them will require an enormous amount of chakra. Up to that point, Obito could move in and out of his pocket dimension to any part of the earth, and in those times he never once claimed his travel required enormous amount of chakra. Following this, it implies Obito needed large amounts of chakra to enter her dimensions with the reasons that they were owned. Analogically, it's like trying to enter a house which belongs to someone else compared to entering a house which belongs to no one. The latter would prove easy because it's not locked or protected. Thus in consideration of this, and the main point presented, it gives substantiality to the suggestion Kaguya owned her dimension.
We now know she owned her dimensions, but does this proves she created them? Obviously it doesn't as you can own something without being the creator of that said thing. Notwithstanding, we do have evidences that proves Kaguya created her dimension.
The first one is something that has been presented a myriad of times to prove she created her dimensions. Specifically, it's the claim she was going to create a new dimension after destroying her old one. The response to this has been projected as unsatisfied. For that reason, I have decided to incorporate another proposition that should prove she created her dimensions.
During the point Obito was about to teleport into Kaguya's time-space, Obito explicitly stated that Kaguya was going to sense them if he uses Kamui to teleport to her time-space. For the fact he stated this, it permits the notion that Kaguya was connected to her time-space. Whether it was a mental, physical, or a dimensional connection, we do not know as it wasn't specified. Regardless, what we know is or should be enough to make us contend with the notion she created her dimensions.
Being able to know instantly if your time-space is infiltrated goes beyond owing that said time-space. It's a matriarchal bond for Kaguya. Just like a female parent who can instantly tell if something is wrong with her child because she brought the child to a life; Kaguya had such capability because she brought her dimensions to life, or in other words fitting to our discussion; she created them.
The implications of creating her dimensions posit she had Multi-planet level (Planet level +) potency because creation accounts to a person's potency. To put it simple, when we create something, we spend energy and in most times the energy we spent is proportional to the level of our creation.
Speaking of Kaguya's suppose potency; in addition to the fact she's above planet level, having her placed at planet level in the first place was wrong. Why? Because at planet level or 2.24e32j (Earth's GBE), it implies she is 45 times more powerful than Naruto and Sasuke, both who are considered small-planet level because of this calc. In truth however, Kaguya is massively more powerful than them as even while not at her full power; Sasuke stated her chakra level is still far greater than Madara's; whose power was close to Hagoromo.
Along my propositions, I stated Kaguya was not at full power when she fought Naruto and Sasuke, and these are the premises.
When she fought them, her original chakra had been dispersed amongst her two sons, Hagoromo and Hamura. Because of this, she had to compensate for her lost chakra by merging with the Shinju-tree, who by the way became a part of her when she ate from it.
Thus, Naruto and Sasuke fought a weakened Kaguya whose chakra was still within her two sons, yet she was still indicated to be massively powerful than them, such that she could even summon a planet level attack. This revelation is going to obviate any possible objection in the form; Kaguya can't be Multi-planet level as she never showed any Multi-planet level related feats. She never showed any Multi-planet level feats because she wasn't at full power.
In the same tone, Hagoromo, Hamura, Naruto and Sasuke can't be scaled from this level. As asserted, they fought a weakened Kaguya who was planet level.
Furthermore, it should be noted the case of Hagoromo and Hamura having almost all of Kaguya's chakra doesn't imply Full powered Kaguya as I have categorise was twice as strong as her sons. She's massively more powerful on a greater degree than them. Hagoromo emphasized this during his talk with Naruto.
An expected counter-argument is the claim Kaguya needed the chakra of those trapped on Infinite Tsukuyomi for the materialisation of her ETSB, thus we cannot make use of the situation to support the claim she's Multi-planet level at full power.
In regards to this, Kaguya only decided to use the chakra of those trapped on Infinite Tsukuyomi because she had used most of her chakra changing the environment of her dimensions. Moreover the chakra she took were originally hers. Avowedly, Hagoromo shared her chakra amongst humans.
Having established this, if we regard the fact Naruto and Sasuke fought a weakened Kaguya who was still massively powerful than them, the resulting conclusion cause for validation towards the claim Kaguya is Multi-planet planet, being that the conclusion itself is Full powered Kaguya is massively, and even more massively more powerful than Naruto and Sasuke.
There are other instances which proves the claim.
Such as Kaguya's ETSB having the enough power to obliterate her world, which could harbored a planet and a Moon. Note the the word "world" in this case doesn't mean "Earth" as it is transposable. In the Manga, her dimensions were frequently referred to as "world" and "time-space."
Note: This doesn't suppose to merit an instant upgrade. I noticed Naruto universe is being revised by Gwynbleiddd. I'm not sure what his/her basis are; nevertheless I'd like this to be taken under advisement
To begin with, Kaguya created six dimensions, all which harbored planets. These dimensions were repeatedly stated to be hers, and they all seemed to be interconnected dimensionally. As Obito suggested, these dimensions were difficult to enter; such that entering them will require an enormous amount of chakra. Up to that point, Obito could move in and out of his pocket dimension to any part of the earth, and in those times he never once claimed his travel required enormous amount of chakra. Following this, it implies Obito needed large amounts of chakra to enter her dimensions with the reasons that they were owned. Analogically, it's like trying to enter a house which belongs to someone else compared to entering a house which belongs to no one. The latter would prove easy because it's not locked or protected. Thus in consideration of this, and the main point presented, it gives substantiality to the suggestion Kaguya owned her dimension.
We now know she owned her dimensions, but does this proves she created them? Obviously it doesn't as you can own something without being the creator of that said thing. Notwithstanding, we do have evidences that proves Kaguya created her dimension.
The first one is something that has been presented a myriad of times to prove she created her dimensions. Specifically, it's the claim she was going to create a new dimension after destroying her old one. The response to this has been projected as unsatisfied. For that reason, I have decided to incorporate another proposition that should prove she created her dimensions.
During the point Obito was about to teleport into Kaguya's time-space, Obito explicitly stated that Kaguya was going to sense them if he uses Kamui to teleport to her time-space. For the fact he stated this, it permits the notion that Kaguya was connected to her time-space. Whether it was a mental, physical, or a dimensional connection, we do not know as it wasn't specified. Regardless, what we know is or should be enough to make us contend with the notion she created her dimensions.
Being able to know instantly if your time-space is infiltrated goes beyond owing that said time-space. It's a matriarchal bond for Kaguya. Just like a female parent who can instantly tell if something is wrong with her child because she brought the child to a life; Kaguya had such capability because she brought her dimensions to life, or in other words fitting to our discussion; she created them.
The implications of creating her dimensions posit she had Multi-planet level (Planet level +) potency because creation accounts to a person's potency. To put it simple, when we create something, we spend energy and in most times the energy we spent is proportional to the level of our creation.
Speaking of Kaguya's suppose potency; in addition to the fact she's above planet level, having her placed at planet level in the first place was wrong. Why? Because at planet level or 2.24e32j (Earth's GBE), it implies she is 45 times more powerful than Naruto and Sasuke, both who are considered small-planet level because of this calc. In truth however, Kaguya is massively more powerful than them as even while not at her full power; Sasuke stated her chakra level is still far greater than Madara's; whose power was close to Hagoromo.
Along my propositions, I stated Kaguya was not at full power when she fought Naruto and Sasuke, and these are the premises.
When she fought them, her original chakra had been dispersed amongst her two sons, Hagoromo and Hamura. Because of this, she had to compensate for her lost chakra by merging with the Shinju-tree, who by the way became a part of her when she ate from it.
Thus, Naruto and Sasuke fought a weakened Kaguya whose chakra was still within her two sons, yet she was still indicated to be massively powerful than them, such that she could even summon a planet level attack. This revelation is going to obviate any possible objection in the form; Kaguya can't be Multi-planet level as she never showed any Multi-planet level related feats. She never showed any Multi-planet level feats because she wasn't at full power.
In the same tone, Hagoromo, Hamura, Naruto and Sasuke can't be scaled from this level. As asserted, they fought a weakened Kaguya who was planet level.
Furthermore, it should be noted the case of Hagoromo and Hamura having almost all of Kaguya's chakra doesn't imply Full powered Kaguya as I have categorise was twice as strong as her sons. She's massively more powerful on a greater degree than them. Hagoromo emphasized this during his talk with Naruto.
An expected counter-argument is the claim Kaguya needed the chakra of those trapped on Infinite Tsukuyomi for the materialisation of her ETSB, thus we cannot make use of the situation to support the claim she's Multi-planet level at full power.
In regards to this, Kaguya only decided to use the chakra of those trapped on Infinite Tsukuyomi because she had used most of her chakra changing the environment of her dimensions. Moreover the chakra she took were originally hers. Avowedly, Hagoromo shared her chakra amongst humans.
Having established this, if we regard the fact Naruto and Sasuke fought a weakened Kaguya who was still massively powerful than them, the resulting conclusion cause for validation towards the claim Kaguya is Multi-planet planet, being that the conclusion itself is Full powered Kaguya is massively, and even more massively more powerful than Naruto and Sasuke.
There are other instances which proves the claim.
Such as Kaguya's ETSB having the enough power to obliterate her world, which could harbored a planet and a Moon. Note the the word "world" in this case doesn't mean "Earth" as it is transposable. In the Manga, her dimensions were frequently referred to as "world" and "time-space."
