"Joker" vs "King"

[Lapsad]

Amamiya vs Gilgamesh

Ren: 3rd semester

Gil: full power

Both 6-D

Speed equalized

 

[Popted2]

how it works his power nulls?

 

[ZephyrosOmega]

don't make me do this man

 

[DMUA]

Gilgamesh passive power null and resistances go brrrr

The former gets resisted and even if he can resist the really good stuff there is still the good ol option of

Actually fighting Gilgamesh normally

I think SNI and Joker being the trickster both cancel out, so that's at least interesting

On the other hand I have to throw out the obligatory "why have you done this" and not comment further for now

 

[Paul_Frank]

I'm pretty sure this is a stomp either way

If Ren doesn't have a ton of layers to his resistances and offensive stuff, Gil's everything works, and Ren can do nothing as all of his stuff is shut down and Gil kills him with whatever

If he does have a bunch of layers, then Gil's nothing works, and Ren bypasses his resistances and wins

As for trickster vs SNI, it's debatable, SNI works on acausals as well, and sees all possibilities, so you could argue he'd just see whatever possibilities Joker's existence changed things to, but that's not really as important as the layers situation

 

[Popted2]

how does it works Gil power null?

 

[CrystalValley]

how does Gil deal with High-Godly regen? that seems to be a big issue for him.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

how does it works Gil power null?

It's just altered reality into nothing,
And protects the whole body passively

 

[Popted2]

It's just altered reality into nothing,
And protects the whole body passively

so in order to hit him yo must have resistance to power null right?

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

so in order to hit him yo must have resistance to power null right?

You need resistance to power null of various layers, I think it was around 12 layers of resistance more or less.

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

so in order to hit him yo must have resistance to power null right?

And resistance to subjective reality tho

 

[TrueKingOfHeroes]

I believe gilgamesh has layers of resistance equal to BB

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

I believe gilgamesh has layer of resistance equal to BB

That's why I said 12 layers, it's was most surely more than that but I didn't wanted to search the exact number, now I did it and it's around 20 layers.

 

[CrystalValley]

That's why I said 12 layers, it's was most surely more than that but I didn't wanted to search the exact number, now I did it and it's around 20 layers.

is that considered a lot? sounds like it. still don't know how Gilgamesh gets past high-godly regen though.

 

[DMUA]

What does this layers stuff even come from

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

What does this layers stuff even come from

The layers come from the Authority of gods.

 

[DMUA]

That explains basically nothing about why it's layered but ok

 

[Expectro2000xxx]

That explains basically nothing about why it's layered but ok

Because gods resist the authorities of others gods, and depending of the rank of the god that resistance have more layers, the characters around the level of BB resist like 20 layers

 

[DMUA]

I mean without further context that doesn't really sound like layers but just scaling up from Superiority, which Joker would have in droves considering by the point he's Low 1-C he'd scale vastly upwards from normal shadows capable of power null and other such abilities

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

No intention of arguing Joker, but just as a reminder levels are canon in MT, and a one level gap between Zeus and Elizabeth allowed the former to completely possess her.

Taken in the fight that horde battles are common in MT, Joker would be a walking resistance sponge.

 

[DMUA]

and a one level gap between Zeus and Elizabeth allowed the former to completely possess her.

I'm sorry it what

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I'm sorry it what

It’s real, by the way.

 

[DMUA]

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

This is of course not mentioning the fact that a Persona (a tamed Shadow), naturally grants resistance to Possession.

 

[Regidian]

I mean without further context that doesn't really sound like layers but just scaling up from Superiority, which Joker would have in droves considering by the point he's Low 1-C he'd scale vastly upwards from normal shadows capable of power null and other such abilities

Anyone with an Authority has resistances to any ability another Authority user can possess so long as their Authority is superior.



It's a thing already accepted anyways that authority have layer.

It’s real, by the way.

Well normaly think like level exist and is canon for one person in fate with autority and she can have 999 level but we don't use that

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Chimp solos

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Bump?