Is This a layered hax?

[HakutoRei000]

Azazel reappeared before Ruach, now in a new, terrifying form—Azazel, The Flame that Burns Everything. The inferno surrounding him was unlike anything seen before, flames so intense they surpassed even the ability to burn the Truth itself.

Ruach, despite being immune to the fires of Truth, could feel the searing heat emanating from Azazel. His dark form trembled as the flames licked at the edges of his being, something he had never felt before. The very air seemed to warp as the fire around Azazel intensified, an unstoppable force that threatened to consume everything in its path.

"Do you feel it now, Ruach?" Azazel’s voice was calm, but the power in his words resonated like the roar of a wildfire. "This flame will burn all lies, all shadows... including yours."

What title says yeah.

 

[Digital_Franz]

No. Abilities like Fire Manipulation are not layered.

Hax

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[Arkenis]

This reads like the fire has some special ability, am I just reading into the truth too much?

 

[HakutoRei000]

This reads like the fire has some special ability, am I just reading into the truth too much?

What it means is fire that burns at the level of Concept (Truth). This is not ordinary fire found on Earth as an element, but rather fire in its conceptual essence. In the context of the story, the mentioned entities (Azazel, Ruach) are merely physical manifestations of shadows, which are shaped by unconsciousness and exist beyond physical limitations. Therefore, only attacks at the level of Truth (Conceptual) can affect their existence.

What is meant by Truth here is the core of their existence—the very essence that enables interaction to occur, much like how humans interact with one another. However, since these entities are abstract beings, their essence is described through the framework of concepts. Thus, only conceptual interactions, at the level of their Truth, can reach and affect them.

No. Abilities like Fire Manipulation are not layered.

Hax

Hax is a catch-all term for abilities that can be used to ignore/bypass one or more of a target's statistics, rendering them irrelevant. The most common hax are the ones that ignore durability, and their scale/potency are unrelated to their users' AP & Tier, however, they can be measured with...

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Also if the Fire is Conceptual like i said, does it fall to under conceptual Manipulation?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

What title says yeah.

Typically, this situation arises when a character's resistance has a defined limit. For example, if I can resist flames up to 1,000 degrees but begin to burn from flames that reach 1,100 degrees, the issue is not that the flames are layered, but rather that my resistance has a cap, and the flames exceed that cap.

However, if I can resist conceptual flames that affect abstract concepts, and yet another conceptual flame, explicitly stated to be superior, still affects me, this would qualify as a layered ability.

In essence, some resistances have fixed limits, and exceeding those limits allows them to be overpowered. On the other hand, more abstract resistances cannot be defined by fixed limits, and overcoming them indicates a layered ability.

At least based on my understanding.

 

[HakutoRei000]

Typically, this situation arises when a character's resistance has a defined limit. For example, if I can resist flames up to 1,000 degrees but begin to burn from flames that reach 1,100 degrees, the issue is not that the flames are layered, but rather that my resistance has a cap, and the flames exceed that cap.

However, if I can resist conceptual flames that affect abstract concepts, and yet another conceptual flame, explicitly stated to be superior, still affects me, this would qualify as a layered ability.

In essence, some resistances have fixed limits, and exceeding those limits allows them to be overpowered. On the other hand, more abstract resistances cannot be defined by fixed limits, and overcoming them indicates a layered ability.

At least based on my understanding.

Simply put, physical fire usually has a defined limit because it is tangible, whereas an abstract concept doesn’t have a definitive limit. So, resistance or immunity is applied directly in a more total context?

And if the fire is categorized as a concept, in the narrative context, does that also fall under concept manipulation?

 

[Digital_Franz]

Also if the Fire is Conceptual like i said, does it fall to under conceptual Manipulation?

Yes and in this case it will be layered.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Simply put, physical fire usually has a defined limit because it is tangible, whereas an abstract concept doesn’t have a definitive limit. So, resistance or immunity is applied directly in a more total context?

And if the fire is categorized as a concept, in the narrative context, does that also fall under concept manipulation?

Basically yes. Though remember, you can only have immunity to something if you lack the aspect that hax effects. Otherwise it's just treated as very high resistance.