Ichibē from Bleach

[Ryop]

I kinda got confused about Ichibe,i dont understand his abilities.

I understand he can remove half of the names of things he touch and reduce their physical capabilities by half-but is this work only one time? i mean can he reduce the physical capabilities again and again by half? for exmple if the enemy's arm was 100% and than it will become 50%(when Ichibe touch him) and than 25% and 12.5% etc etc.


About Ichimonji: i dont understand what the sword does- everything she touch lose his name which mean lose all his power?(for example if Ichimonji touch akainu then akainu will lose his magma power and all his physical capabilities?) but Ymach still can use his powers after ichimonji touch him so that make no sense.

Also,it been staed in his profile that all the black belong to him but what does "black" mean?

 

[AppleLord]

He can cut your name in half only once, according to feats, however, is unknown because he never did it again. It will reduce your physical stats in half.

If you're cover by Shikai: Ichimonji you will lose your name, and power only. Your example doesn't include Yhwach's own power or abilities, because only his sword and cross were cover in the ink. Not Yhwach himself, which means clothes aren't affected.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-608-page-11.html

If Akainu is cover completely in ink, he will lose his name, and power. I'm assuming that this character is not stronger than Ichibei, since I don't know him.

If only his arm is ink then it will lose its name, and powers.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-609-page-3.html

Ichibei's Bankai works after losing your powers to his shikai, and it rewrites your physical stats. No limit Fallacy is included.

All that is color black, Ichibei can use as ammo ink for Ichimonji or Kido.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-610-page-8.html

 

[Ryop]

He can cut your name in half only once, according to feats, however, is unknown because he never did it again. It will reduce your physical stats in half.
If you're cover by Shikai: Ichimonji you will lose your name, and power only. Your example doesn't include Yhwach's own power or abilities, because only his sword and cross were cover in the ink. Not Yhwach himself, which means clothes aren't affected.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-608-page-11.html

If Akainu is cover completely in ink, he will lose his name, and power. I'm assuming that this character is not stronger than Ichibei, since I don't know him.

If only his arm is ink then it will lose its name, and powers.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-609-page-3.html

Ichibei's Bankai works after losing your powers to his shikai, and it rewrites your physical stats. No limit Fallacy is included.

All that is color black, Ichibei can use as ammo ink for Ichimonji or Kido.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-610-page-8.html

Thanks for your comment,i have another questions:

Is Ichibē need to know the name of the things he touch in order that his sword's Name Severing technique(not his Bankai) will work?

Is Ichibē's ability affact on something that not living creature? for example Busoshoku Haki\ice\fire\light\lightning etc?

Is Ichibē need to cover the whole enemy with his ink(like he did with Yhwach) in order that his Bankai will work or just one hit by the ink is enough?

 

[AppleLord]

Short answered, yes, he will need to know the name of something that doesn't exist in his own verse to cut its stats in half.

See here: http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-10.html

His sword was hit by Ichimonji, but not affected because Ichibei doesn't know its name.

Here: http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-12.html

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-13.html

It affected Yhwach's arm, because Ichibei knows what an arm is.

He named every phenomena in his own fiction universe, or at least in the afterlife of said unverse.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-564-page-7.html

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-564-page-8.html

(He wouldn't know what chakra is, so... he can't change it. Unless, both verses energies are equalized in a fight and threaded the same.)

In his Shikai works differently, an opposite to his base power (severing names in half), he didn't know all of Yhwach's powers, and they still got nullafy. (Except "The Almighty" which nullifies abilities that work on the user, change the future, see the future and make its opponent abilities its allie.)

Ichibei himself is a Shinigami (God of Death) so technically Ichibei is dead. And he is the leader of all the Shinigami. But in his verse the religion is base on Buddhism, so souls can still die and get reincarnated on Earth.

Short answered, no. Is unknown if he can do so, he did named every phenomena in Soul society with his power... (Atoms were the only thing changed from the human world, they are called Spiritrons instead.) Is unknown if Ichibei can named every phenomena, and base on feats he can't.

Only what his Shikai covers in ink can be change by his Bankai, and he has to switch between the two sword states of fighting. Shikai and Bankai can't be used at the same time.

Cheers.

 

[Ryop]

Short answered, yes, he will need to know the name of something that doesn't exist in his own verse to cut its stats in half.
See here: http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-10.html

His sword was hit by Ichimonji, but not affected because Ichibei doesn't know its name.

Here: http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-12.html

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-13.html

It affected Yhwach's arm, because Ichibei knows what an arm is.

He named every phenomena in his own fiction universe, or at least in the afterlife of said unverse.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-564-page-7.html

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-564-page-8.html

(He wouldn't know what chakra is, so... he can't change it. Unless, both verses energies are equalized in a fight and threaded the same.)

In his Shikai works differently, an opposite to his base power (severing names in half), he didn't know all of Yhwach's powers, and they still got nullafy. (Except "The Almighty" which nullifies abilities that work on the user, change the future, see the future and make its opponent abilities its allie.)

Ichibei himself is a Shinigami (God of Death) so technically Ichibei is dead. And he is the leader of all the Shinigami. But in his verse the religion is base on Buddhism, so souls can still die and get reincarnated on Earth.

Short answered, no. Is unknown if he can do so, he did named every phenomena in Soul society with his power... (Atoms were the only thing changed from the human world, they are called Spiritrons instead.) Is unknown if Ichibei can named every phenomena, and base on feats he can't.

Only what his Shikai covers in ink can be change by his Bankai, and he has to switch between the two sword states of fighting. Shikai and Bankai can't be used at the same time.

Cheers.

Ok so If I understand you correctly in his Name Severing's technique he need to know the name of what he touch and in his Shikai mod he doesnt need to know,right?

 

[AppleLord]

Nutshell away:

Base form: Can severe only names of what he knows.

Shikai: Can remove names completely, but stats don't change, only powers are remove.

Bankai: Can change the name, stats and powers of what he already inked in black with a white Kanji letter.

 

[Ryop]

Nutshell away:
Base form: Can severe only names of what he knows.

Shikai: Can remove names completely, but stats don't change, only powers are remove.

Bankai: Can change the name, stats and powers of what he already inked in black with a white Kanji letter.

By "stats" you mean physical capabilities? becuse in his profile written that his Shikai remove also half of your physical capabilities

 

[AppleLord]

His Shikai doesn't remove half of your physical capabilities. His base weapon removes half of your physical capabilities.

There are three stages to his weapon:

> The Paint brush is his base weapon.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-12.html

> The shikai is his sword, and the paint brush with black ink powers.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-608-page-2.html

> His bankai is his paint brush alone with white ink.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-609-page-5.html

 

[Ryop]

His Shikai doesn't remove half of your physical capabilities. His base weapon removes half of your physical capabilities.
There are three stages to his weapon:

> The Paint brush is his base weapon.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-606-page-12.html

> The shikai is his sword, and the paint brush with black ink powers.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-608-page-2.html

> His bankai is his paint brush alone with white ink.

http://*****************/read-online/Bleach-chapter-609-page-5.html

Why not also his Shikai? from what i understand his base weapon remove half of the name which maen half of the strength and his Shikai remove the whole name so logically this remove also the whole strength,we saw that Yhwach cant move after been hit by the Shikai-that becuse he has no strength left,no?

 

[AppleLord]

If we assume that what you say is true, then Ichibei didn't needed to use his Bankai to kill him.

 

[Ryop]

Well he really doesnt no? i mean,Yhwach already was powerless before he use his Bankai,Ichibē "made" him into ant only to humiliate him

 

[AppleLord]

Ichibei knows how his own powers work. That's true. But there is no evidence that his shikai shares the same powers as his base weapon. There be no point for Ichibei to start without his Shikai, if both his base and first release do the same things.

 

[Antvasima]

Please avoid spamming the page with long quotes.

 

[Ryop]

AppleLord-It just plot reason nobady start in their strongest form immediately,it like ask why nobody use Bankai againat Aizen,or why Kisuke didnt use his Bankai or why none of Zero Division used Banaki etc etc

 

[AppleLord]

I wouldn't called it plot, it depends on the person. Ichigo, Renji, Byakuya, Kensei, Toshiro and Komamura always into Bankai skipping Shikai.

 

[Ryop]

AppleLord@

I am sorry,but i still have one more question:

i still dont understand what effect his Shikai has on things(not living creature),for example the Shikai touch Yamnch's sword and..? what exactly happened? his "sword" has no more name ok i get it-so? how this affect on the sword itself? If Yamch was trying to stub Ichibei with this sword Ichibe wouldnt get cut? the sword cant cut anymore? what does it do?

 

[AppleLord]

Swords in bleach, mostly Zanpakutou's hold the users powers inside of it and uses the user reiatsu (energy) to activate the power and attack.

Yhwach doesn't possess a Zanpakutou, except for Yamamoto's Zanka No Tachi which he stole in a medallion.

Let's assume his sword can shot energy waves for this example, Ichibei's ink will remove the name of the sword, and its powers. So his sword no longer shoots energy waves. If he were to use his bankai on the sword he can make the sword have water, ice, fire, wind powers, etc...

But of course, he has no feats of doing any of this. So we can't say that he can do it. We go by feats.