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Dutch has possibly the durability, but not the AP due to is strikes unable to harm the Predator
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Also Rambo has more impressive strength feats that are better than Dutch's showings in Predator 1:
Unarmed - Striking
- Breaks the side of a crate with a kick.
- Knocks a man out with two hits.
- Kicks a man in the chest then throws him through a window.
- Stuns a man with hits, then shoves him through a window.
- Knocks down Teasle with a kick.
- Kicks a man into a shelf hard enough to knock it over.
- Knocks down a man with a sliding kick, then elbows him in the nose to take him out.
- Knocks Kourov into a hole in the ground with a kick.
- While restrained by Galt, he knocks away several guards with kicks, then breaks out of Galt's grip and slams him against a cell door.
- After another cop grabs him around the neck, he flips him over his shoulder, then knocks down Galt.
- Takes down a cop after tackling him from a tree.
- Beats up two men at once.
- Jumps out of the water below a helicopter, grabbing a man and tossing him out.
- Wrestles with Yushin inside a helicopter, eventually tossing him out of it.
- Grabs a man charging at him and tosses him down.
- Slams a man's head into a wall hard enough to either KO or kill him.
- Takes out a man with a clothesline.
- Pushes back against Kourov, flips him, and wrestles with him, choking him with a rope.
- Tackles a man to the ground while injured, but is quickly overtaken.
- Tears out a man's throat.
- Snaps a man's neck. | Again.
- Grabs a man, slams him against a car, stabs him in the chest and leg with his knife, then sticks his fingers into the wound on his chest and starts tearing out his collarbone; he leaves him be for a bit after this, but then knocks him out with a punch.
- Cuts into Hugo's chest and tears his heart out.
- Pulls a man off a motorcycle.
- Pulls a shelf of ammunition out of a wall.
- Pulls up barbed wire to crawl under it.
- While injured, pulls up a metal grate from the ground with one arm.
- While injured, pulls a metal window grate out of a wall after loosening one corner by bashing it with a gun.
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Rambo went through the same events as Dutch according to the OP so he's the sole survivor of his team and the one "worthy" prey.
Not a trap, a bunch of traps. Check his Preparation.
Brother, I linked the exact parts you have to read. It shouldn't be a hassle unless you either have a short attention span or can't filter out which info relates to the given subject for some reason. Either way, here are the quotes.
"Notably, the Yautja use an eclectic array of equipment on their Hunts, ranging from incredibly advanced plasma-based technology to ancient, relatively rudimentary bladed weapons. This diverse and seemingly incongruous mix is thought to be a result of the species distinct honor code, which dictates that the use of traditional weapons such as Wristblades or the Combistick carries with it a higher degree of honor than more technologically advanced weaponry such as the Plasmacaster. This belief manifests itself most prominently in the tendency of Yautja individuals to discard their advanced technology when confronted by a particularly worthy individual, and instead face their prey using only their most basic of weapons — their Wristblades.[8]"
"Equalize the odds: Killing prey when using less equipment is considered a greater prize, and hunters should typically give their prey a fighting chance for honor's sake. If the prey demands close-combat, the hunter is to fight to their prey's standards, and should minimize use of their Plasmacaster or other projectile weapons.[3]"
(By the way, the other paragraphs in this part provide specific details about the code and the consequences of breaking it)
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Isn't High 8-C only due to the Tallboy/Grand Slam Bomb, which I don't think is a part of his normal equipment? I mean this ain't Burma and if he replaces Dutch in this thread, that would mean he's in Guatemala or the Amazon. Highly doubt you'd find any Grand Slam Bombs there.
Also 8-C is done by blowing up his own house on an Arizona Ranch in the fifth movie.
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Pretty sure anything in the "other" section is optional equipment, so he wouldn't have access to them by default but the OP can decide if he has them or not. Also, Jungle Hunter has pretty good odds of surviving those if he's far enough away.
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Since the movie starts in a military base, it's fair to assume that Rambo would be carrying equipment that he normally has on hand when in combat, although would this mean he'd have access to his arrows?
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Rambo has arguably better feats of strength and durability, but he is certainly faster than Dutch, in fact i would say that Rambo is more skilled than Dutch as well. They're are both on par when it comes to making traps, but Rambo demonstrated far better displays of stealth
Rambo was able to subdue every cop hunting him, in first blood, mostly using stealth.
He was able to successfully infiltrate and rescue a P.O.W of a prison camp in NAM
He killed alot of Russian soldiers relying on his stealth
He was able to invade a heavily guard russian military base
Twice
Destroyed a bunch of Spetsnaz, who were looking for him in a cave, by being stealthy
Was able to infiltrate a Burmese camp
Invaded Victor Martinez's house and killed him and his guards without being notice
Rambo also has better hand to hand combat feats
He was capable of fighting his way out of prison, beating mutiple officers in the process
Beat a experienced fighter in a stick fight
Fought on par with Kourov who was bigger and probably stronger than him
The only noticeable combat feat that Dutch has, is him getting stomped by the Jungle Hunter
Now, about Rambo vs The Jungle Hunter.
We know how good Rambo is with prep. the amount of ludicrous traps he can make, is out of this world. And remember the Jungle Hunter has already fallen, not once but twice for guerrilla style traps (something that Rambo specializes on) And Rambo's incredible senses and awareness of his surroundings would make things difficult for the Predator to creep up on him.
Rambo senses a snake
Rambo senses Co
Rambo was also able to Hear a Helicopter coming from miles away
Schoolboy and Him could hear the burmese army tracking them from a very long distance
Stated to be able to stalk a soldier by it's heartbeat in First Blood teaser
Was able to track down a plane crash via smell (This happens in a canon prequel comic)
So, even the Jungle Hunter's cloaking device will not help him hide from Rambo, who will probably sense, hear, or outright see him coming, due to the fact that the cloaking device doesn't really make the predator invisible.
Harrigan could see it
Dillon and Mac could see him in the jungle
Even a child could see him
It's safe to assume that Rambo would not have much problems finding him too, with prep he would know that something is hunting him after all.
People can say that The Jungle Hunter would immediately blast his Plasma Caster on Rambo, but i do not think that would be the case
Rambo doesn't like to go around in the Jungle with weapons in his hand, especially when he's in stealth mode. If you watch Rambo 3 you'll see that Rambo only brought a knife, his bow and some arrows to Afghanistan, and in the Forth one he only brought his Machete, his bow and some arrows. Even though his enemies were heavily armed in most movies.
The Jungle Hunter would probably want to kill him using his wrist blades, but even if used his Plasma Caster, Rambo could probably evade his shots. I mean the Plasma Caster uses a laser sight, something that Rambo would probably see, due to his incredible awareness, and the Plasma Caster looks considerably slower than a bullet, so Rambo could dodge it.
Also i like to mention the fact that Rambo has already used tactics that was proved to be effective against Predators
like covering himself with mud, i know you said that Rambo would surely not use it against Jungle Hunter, unless extreme luck was involved. but i think you are underestimating Rambo's intellect.
Rambo is very intelligent. He can speak several languages, he is an expert in operating various types of war machines like helicopters and tanks and is a skilled hunter. He is also trained as a medic. He is shown to perform medical procedures on himself, such as stitching and cauterizing his own wounds.
He has shown to know a little bit about chemistry, since he was able to make his own incendiary shotgun rounds
Was able to create efficient infiltration plans and was able to create a lot of complex traps in a few days
his IQ is said to be at least 138
Rambo would see that there is a man-shaped bubble hunting him, the obvious decision would be to camouflage himself to even the playing field, Rambo used the mud camouflage to kill a soviet soldier, i don't know why he would not use it against an enemy that has a superior camouflage.
The other tactic that Rambo used was put the forest on fire, something that Royce did it to screw up the predator vision. Rambo can also bring good weapons for this fight
His most recurring weapons are:
His Compound Bow (appears in 4 movies) Note the kind of damage that the explosive arrows can do, with these Rambo could kill the Jungle hunter if he hit him in the right place
M60 (appears in 2 movies) could potentially kill the Jungle Hunter too, since a shotgun could do these kind of damage on the City Hunter. The M60 has a faster muzzle velocity, and fires more bullets per second.
His machete (appears in 2 movies) he can probably kill the Jungle Hunter with this one too, even though Predators have superior physical stats than humans in general they can still be killed by humans using bladed weapons.
The Yakuza enforcer was able to kill the Predator using his katana. (Rambo has displayed better combat feats than him)
Royce killed the berserker predator using an axe (Rambo is stronger than Royce, and already shown that he can easily decapitate people)
Harrigan was able to parry 8 blows from the City Hunter in a fight and I know that the City Hunter was injured and had only one arm, still Harrigan has never used a Smart Disc before, and was nearly exhausted. (Rambo is faster than Harrigan, and has better stamina too)
For me, Rambo is like every Predator major opponent merged into one and a little more.
Rambo is at least as strong as Dutch, if not more, and also on par with him at making traps.
As cunning as Royce.
As brave and strong-willed as Harrigan.
With an accuracy that rivals that of Quinn Mckenna.
With senses that are at least as good as Noland's.
And is Faster, Stealthier, and Has more Stamina than all of them.
You can say that in a random 1v1 match The Jungle Hunter stomps Rambo, and I agree, but that's not really a fair fight for Rambo, since the Jungle Hunter only wins due to superior gear and technology, not really by his merits. The Predators are way too reliant on their tech, while Rambo is quite the opposite.
If you really want a fair fight, give Rambo only his knife, and then give the Predator only his wrist blade, no cloaking device, no plasma caster, nothing, just his wrist blade. drop them both in a jungle and see which one gets out alive. Do you really think that the Jungle Hunter would stand a chance ?
Rambo was able to subdue every cop hunting him, in first blood, mostly using stealth.
He was able to successfully infiltrate and rescue a P.O.W of a prison camp in NAM
He killed alot of Russian soldiers relying on his stealth
He was able to invade a heavily guard russian military base
Twice
Destroyed a bunch of Spetsnaz, who were looking for him in a cave, by being stealthy
Was able to infiltrate a Burmese camp
Invaded Victor Martinez's house and killed him and his guards without being notice
Rambo also has better hand to hand combat feats
He was capable of fighting his way out of prison, beating mutiple officers in the process
Beat a experienced fighter in a stick fight
Fought on par with Kourov who was bigger and probably stronger than him
The only noticeable combat feat that Dutch has, is him getting stomped by the Jungle Hunter
Now, about Rambo vs The Jungle Hunter.
We know how good Rambo is with prep. the amount of ludicrous traps he can make, is out of this world. And remember the Jungle Hunter has already fallen, not once but twice for guerrilla style traps (something that Rambo specializes on) And Rambo's incredible senses and awareness of his surroundings would make things difficult for the Predator to creep up on him.
Rambo senses a snake
Rambo senses Co
Rambo was also able to Hear a Helicopter coming from miles away
Schoolboy and Him could hear the burmese army tracking them from a very long distance
Stated to be able to stalk a soldier by it's heartbeat in First Blood teaser
Was able to track down a plane crash via smell (This happens in a canon prequel comic)
So, even the Jungle Hunter's cloaking device will not help him hide from Rambo, who will probably sense, hear, or outright see him coming, due to the fact that the cloaking device doesn't really make the predator invisible.
Harrigan could see it
Dillon and Mac could see him in the jungle
Even a child could see him
It's safe to assume that Rambo would not have much problems finding him too, with prep he would know that something is hunting him after all.
People can say that The Jungle Hunter would immediately blast his Plasma Caster on Rambo, but i do not think that would be the case
Rambo doesn't like to go around in the Jungle with weapons in his hand, especially when he's in stealth mode. If you watch Rambo 3 you'll see that Rambo only brought a knife, his bow and some arrows to Afghanistan, and in the Forth one he only brought his Machete, his bow and some arrows. Even though his enemies were heavily armed in most movies.
The Jungle Hunter would probably want to kill him using his wrist blades, but even if used his Plasma Caster, Rambo could probably evade his shots. I mean the Plasma Caster uses a laser sight, something that Rambo would probably see, due to his incredible awareness, and the Plasma Caster looks considerably slower than a bullet, so Rambo could dodge it.
Also i like to mention the fact that Rambo has already used tactics that was proved to be effective against Predators
like covering himself with mud, i know you said that Rambo would surely not use it against Jungle Hunter, unless extreme luck was involved. but i think you are underestimating Rambo's intellect.
Rambo is very intelligent. He can speak several languages, he is an expert in operating various types of war machines like helicopters and tanks and is a skilled hunter. He is also trained as a medic. He is shown to perform medical procedures on himself, such as stitching and cauterizing his own wounds.
He has shown to know a little bit about chemistry, since he was able to make his own incendiary shotgun rounds
Was able to create efficient infiltration plans and was able to create a lot of complex traps in a few days
his IQ is said to be at least 138
Rambo would see that there is a man-shaped bubble hunting him, the obvious decision would be to camouflage himself to even the playing field, Rambo used the mud camouflage to kill a soviet soldier, i don't know why he would not use it against an enemy that has a superior camouflage.
The other tactic that Rambo used was put the forest on fire, something that Royce did it to screw up the predator vision. Rambo can also bring good weapons for this fight
His most recurring weapons are:
His Compound Bow (appears in 4 movies) Note the kind of damage that the explosive arrows can do, with these Rambo could kill the Jungle hunter if he hit him in the right place
M60 (appears in 2 movies) could potentially kill the Jungle Hunter too, since a shotgun could do these kind of damage on the City Hunter. The M60 has a faster muzzle velocity, and fires more bullets per second.
His machete (appears in 2 movies) he can probably kill the Jungle Hunter with this one too, even though Predators have superior physical stats than humans in general they can still be killed by humans using bladed weapons.
The Yakuza enforcer was able to kill the Predator using his katana. (Rambo has displayed better combat feats than him)
Royce killed the berserker predator using an axe (Rambo is stronger than Royce, and already shown that he can easily decapitate people)
Harrigan was able to parry 8 blows from the City Hunter in a fight and I know that the City Hunter was injured and had only one arm, still Harrigan has never used a Smart Disc before, and was nearly exhausted. (Rambo is faster than Harrigan, and has better stamina too)
For me, Rambo is like every Predator major opponent merged into one and a little more.
Rambo is at least as strong as Dutch, if not more, and also on par with him at making traps.
As cunning as Royce.
As brave and strong-willed as Harrigan.
With an accuracy that rivals that of Quinn Mckenna.
With senses that are at least as good as Noland's.
And is Faster, Stealthier, and Has more Stamina than all of them.
You can say that in a random 1v1 match The Jungle Hunter stomps Rambo, and I agree, but that's not really a fair fight for Rambo, since the Jungle Hunter only wins due to superior gear and technology, not really by his merits. The Predators are way too reliant on their tech, while Rambo is quite the opposite.
If you really want a fair fight, give Rambo only his knife, and then give the Predator only his wrist blade, no cloaking device, no plasma caster, nothing, just his wrist blade. drop them both in a jungle and see which one gets out alive. Do you really think that the Jungle Hunter would stand a chance ?
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