How powerful is this?

[TheSandman31]

This character is part of a council that set the rules of DC multiverse, including the rules followed by the Endless

 

[Antvasima]

Probably High 1-B, but was it ever stated outright that Glory did this?

 

[TheSandman31]

He was part of the First Circle and the First Circle was said to be the one who set the rules of the universe

A member of the First Circle, the council who set rules of Creation and the rules that the Endless follows

'Dream and Glory were also the only one to remember the retcon of the multiverse(though Glory said even Dream will probably forget about it) , where the other Endless has forgotten about the event and even the Book of Destiny was rewritten

Dream also called Glory "Shekina" which in Jewish and Christian theology means "The Glory of the Divine Presence" which I think implies that he's somewhat related to the Presence

Edit:not Destiny I mean Dream sorry

 

[Zensum]

Is this from sandman overture?

 

[TheSandman31]

yeah, but his from there but he also appeared in the Books of Magic and in a cameo in the Endless nights.The first circle was first mentioned once in the original Sandman

 

[Antvasima]

But in the above scans it is not specified exactly what the First Circle do, just that Glory seems to be a member.

 

[TheSandman31]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CsNWu343CJg/VkIMoCQe-II/AAAAAAAAO78/pxpt1c49p-U/s1600-Ic42/011.jpg

"I talk of laws, there are always laws.The laws on which the universe run.The law of conservation of reality"

"Obviously, we were there when the those laws were set...it is a matter...for the first circle..."

"I will speak to someone in a position of responsibility"

 

[Antvasima]

Being there when the laws were set is not the same as being the ones who defined them.

 

[TheSandman31]

The Endless were the ones who were there when the laws were set, not the First Circle.The Circle was the one who set the laws

Dream said that those laws are a matter for the First Circle, and him saying that he will to talk someone who is in position of responsibility, which is Glory

 

[TheSandman31]

"Obviously, we were there when those laws were set.

this line was spoken by Dream

.it is a matter...for the first circle.


the Endless were present when the laws were set but the laws itself is a matter for the first circle

There's also the fact that the Endless cant lie when they swear by the First Circle

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that High 1-B seems reasonable then.

 

[TheSandman31]

Okay, I do think he's more powerful than the Endless because he was the only one who was unaffected by Destiny's book being .rewritten Dream himself was probably affected by his own multiversal rewrite because Glory said that Dream will most certainly forget about Hope because she doesn't exist in this universe anymore

This is the rating I propose.Azathoth also said that it seems okay

At least High 1-B (A member of the First Circle, the council who set the laws of Creation and the rules that the Endless follows.Glory was unaffected when Destiny 's Book was rewritten )

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that should be fine, by scaling from Destiny.

 

[TheSandman31]

Thanks as always

 

[Antvasima]

No problem.