Hishigami Yuu vs Reki

[DontTalk]

Hishigami Yuu vs Reki


Battle takes place in Tokyo.

Starting distance is 3 km.

Both get standard equipment including Haimaki for Reki.

 

[LazyHunter]

Well, this was fast. Anyway, I think that Yuu's speed would give her an edge in moving through the city to get a better shot, not to mention she's possibly capable of dodging bullets like Ama or Mai do (and she would have the upper hand in a close ranged battle, not that I think the battle would come to this). But what I think would give her the win is the Nopperabou on her weapon, which is a useful hax in a sniper battle like this one. If Yuu gets Reki on her sights, it's over, as she can paralyse her for two seconds, plenty of time for Yuu to line up a headshot, which given her anti-tank rifle, won't leave much of Reki.

 

[DontTalk]

Well, this was fast.

Reki is one of the characters I am searching good matchups for, so it came to mind right away.


So let me give my evaluation of the battle as someone who knows rekis side of things well:

Yuu certainly has the advantage in close combat, even though I agree that it won't happen.

But I think the most important thing to be mentioned in a battle between sniper is their range. With Yuus range of hundreds of meters she is a good bit below rekis 2051m killing range.

That gives reki a good advantage given the starting range. The fact that she can snipe around coners (up to 2 90┬░ corners) and accurately hat a single button after that just by aiming based on the reflection of the person means that Yuu will have a hard time hiding or otherwise taking cover.

Now its true that Yuu might be capable to dodge, but there are also two arguments against that:

First she once tried to shoot off the buttons on kinjis uniform and if he by then didn't surrender shoot him. And actually managed to hit all 6 of them and make kinji surrender.

The other thing is that in order to dodge a bullet knowing form where it's coming is also essential. One of the basic sniper principals is to not let the opponent know ones location. So without knowing when and from where the bullets come dodging is very difficult.

Reki is also aware of the existence of supernatural beings in the world and is trained in ways to deal with them. So Yuu's paralysis ability is still extremely dangerous, but reki won't be completly off guard.

Given Rekis expierience as an armed detective I think she would also instantly recognize Yuus sniper as anti-tank rifle and choose appropiate cover.

All in all I side with reki here.

 

[LazyHunter]

Yeah, it's an interesting match (Another character you could use in a sniper match would be Azureyfear Winchell). It's a shame that LN matches, especially between two LN series, are destined to die, like Higashikawa Mamoru vs Touma or Touma vs Voldemort. I doubt that we can reach seven votes on this one or others.


Reiki definitely has the advantage in range (Looking at old Russian anti-tank rifles, Yuu's rifle is likely a modified PTRD, so we can use that to establish a likely maximum range of 1km, about half of Reki's range). However, I don't think this advantage in range would necessarily be that useful in a dense urban environment such as Tokyo. The ricochetting technique sounds impressive, at what kind of ranges has she used that? Because if she can use it at long range it could be a good advantage to balance Yuu's paralysis technique. About dodging bullets, certainly positioning is key in a sniper duel, and whoever shoots first will give away her position to the other and be forced to relocate if the enemy is not killed right there and then. However, while Reki is limited to human movement, Yuu is not, and can relocate faster and more efficiently. She can also pull the trigger faster, which could decide the battle if they both find each other at the same time, but this would be up to chance.

I agree with you that Reki will definitely recognize Yuu's sniper rifle on sight or by sound. However, I don't agree with you on Yuu's Nopperabou ability. As it is described on the novel, it sounds like a powerful enchantment that's qucikly applied on the enemy she's sniping, and beyond getting a specialist on Japanese Youkai and/or folklore I don't see a way for Reki to counter it. Without previous knowledge of each other I also don't see why Reki would suspect anything supernatural out of Yuu's sniper rifle. I don't remember much about Hidan no Aria's anime and I only read like two novels before dropping it, but it seemed like the supernatural is even less common in that verse than in Zashiki Warashi, with most armed detectives being normal humans.

While it's not enough to change the vote, depending on how good the ricocheting technique's range is, my opinion would change from Yuu winning 8/10 times to 6/10. It would be a close match, but as I mentioned IMO the range advantage would be lessened in this kind of environment, while Yuu's superhuman capabilities would lend well to it.

 

[DontTalk]

About how common supernatural powers are:

You are correct in that they are rare, then again in the surroundings of reki they are quite common. Irokane is a metal that grants supernatural abilities.

Rekis tripe has some of those. Additionally Aria, riko and Shirayuki have some. Additionally they are practically in a war with some other organizations currently (with currently I mean in volume 10) and those have various supernatural power users it seems. IU had a vampire, a werewolf and a witch as supernatural members.

So I don't believe reki is prepared for that ability in particular, but for some ability to be used won't surprise her.


To the range of her L-snipe:

"In short, no matter where you run to inside this 2051 meter radius, my rifle will be able to hit you. Because, this rifle will never betray me--"

Is what she stated sortly before the scene where she used the L-snipe. And that she can seemingly really do so over that distance is further proven by the fact that Kinji in effect doesn't consider any place in 2 km distance of her as safe:

At any rate, were I to escape to any corner of Academy Island...as long as I am within two kilometers of Reki, I will be sniped...

That said the practical use that technique was shown to be used at isn't that large. It was likely not very far, 100 meter maybe...


One thing that shouldn't be forgotten about is Haimaki actually. The wolf is highly intelligent (almost humanly so) and loyal. His presence could possibly interfere with the paralysis ability of Yuu.


About Yuu being able to shoot faster I am sceptical. Reki has demonstrated in a battle against a sniper to go out of cover, aim accurately (with the enemy in a dark forest), shoot and go back into cover faster than the enemys bullet could cross the distance between them. In the end who snipes faster has more to do with the ability to quickly recognize details and do precise adjustment, then with the ability to move fast.

Its also not quite true that who shoots first gives away their position. She will give away the general direction, but over a distance of a few hundred meters or more that is probably still a few hundred meters of possible positions. In the time the bullet arrives and is notice the one shooting can also go into cover again.

Not to mention that this is not unlikely to not go longer than a single bullet.


(If you want to hear something funny, Reki can have a certain kill range of 2051m with a rifle that has a effective firing range of 800m. Because some author clearly didn't research that...)

 

[LazyHunter]

The 2051m range was with the Dragunov? I'd assumed it was with the Barret listed on her equipment... (Not that I'll complain too much, even if his occult and magic research is usually pretty good Kamachi also screws up his science too much to claim any serious amount of realism).

Well, even if she has only displayed it at relative short range for a sniper rifle, I think it's fair to assume she can do her L-snipe at much longer ranges, even if it might not be as accurate it would still be a big threat. I hadn't considered Haimaki, who might be capable of pushing Reki out of the way if he notices something is wrong. This battle could really go either way, and as you mentioned it'd likely be decided in one shot, with both character's strengths and weaknesses playing well against each other in this type of terrain. On a more open area or a forest my vote would go to Reki, but I can't decide who'd have more chances of winning in a city like Tokyo.

As a side-note, how would you rate the supernatural powers of Hidan no Aria against Zashiki Warashi's and other low-power verses like Durarara? I only read like two volumes after the anime's ending, I think (I vaguely remember Kinji's brother, the Cleopatra's descendant and Sherlock Holmes) and they seemed decent enough, but I heard it gets a little ridiculous in later volumes, which surprises me, since Sherlock was described as basically the strongest dude in the world and he showed up surprisingly early (not that "strongest in the <blank>" means much in all shonen).

 

[DontTalk]

Well, if you ask me to compare them teh problem is that I don't know durarara and zashiki warashi I only know from your profiles (except the part of the first volume I finised reading until know). Additionally I have read it quite some time ago, so I don't remember everything clearly and would have to look up many details for the abilities.

Hidan no aria is mostly held in the realm of what can be solved through guns, which already says a lot. In other words abilities that can completely overcome that are rare.

Sherlock might be the strongest which is probably through his precise precognition of everything happening. It also has something to do with him mostly being a strategical genius.

You probably know there was the werewolf that could only be killed by hitting certain places at his body at the same time.

There is Patra that has sand manipulation and "infinite power" (probably better read as infinite stamina) near pyramids. (I think she could drain people of moisture, but I am not certain)

There is some vampire that IIRC (really not sure here) can turn to shadow and electrocute people. I think she had more abilities, but I would have to reread that part.


There are a bunch more, but I don't remember details sadly. (I plan to continue with the profiles for them sometime, then I will know more)

All in all Hidan no aria is not a very strong verse. I would think ability wise it would rank below zashiki warashi, but has some amount of speed advantage through supersonic characters in the Tohyamas and sherlock holmes.