Giyu Tomioka (Kimetsu no Yaiba) VERSUS Caesar Anthonio Zeppeli (JoJo Bizzares Adventure)

[M_Animefan]

Speed is equalized!
Starting Distance 20 meters.
Giyu Tomioka

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Giyu_Tomioka?so=search

VERSUS

Caesar Anthonio Zeppeli (JoJo Bizzares Adventure)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Caesar_Anthonio_Zeppeli

 

[Shey]

Link the profiles

 

[M_Animefan]

Link the profiles

done!

 

[Jibz]

Whats Giyuu going to do against long range durability neg bubbles?

 

[M_Animefan]

Whats Giyuu going to do against long range durability neg bubbles?

Powernullification :/

 

[Jibz]

Powernullification :/

Does Giyuu start with Lull in character?

 

[M_Animefan]

Does Giyuu start with Lull in character?

he used it against the lower moon 5 when the battle started.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Does Giyuu start with Lull in character?

He's perfectly capable of performing it mid combat without much problem and with speed equalized he isn't going to have much of a problem reacting especially if there is some distance. He also did it against Rui as the only named move he utilized against him.

he used it against the upper moon 5 when the battle started.

I'm pretty sure that the only Upper Moon Giyu fought was Upper Moon 3.

 

[M_Animefan]

He's perfectly capable of performing it mid combat without much problem and with speed equalized he isn't going to have much of a problem reacting especially if there is some distance. He also did it against Rui as the only named move he utilized against him.


I'm pretty sure that the only Upper Moon Giyu fought was Upper Moon 3.

I meant lower moon lol.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I meant lower moon lol.

Okay.

 

[Jibz]

Okay so assuming Giyuu starts with Lull, whats the range of the move + whats the starting distance

 

[M_Animefan]

Okay so assuming Giyuu starts with Lull, whats the range of the move + whats the starting distance

The fight each other head on. There’s no specific starting distance.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Okay so assuming Giyuu starts with Lull, whats the range of the move + whats the starting distance

The fight each other head on. There’s no specific starting distance.

"Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and the other has a range of 20 meter they start 20 meter apart. However if the range of one character is 10 meter and the range of the other is 5 kilometer, they start only 4 kilometer apart. If extreme advantages are generated via this distance to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread."

This is what the Standard Battle Assumptions page says. While Caesar and Giyu's pages don't give a specific number they both have a range of several meters, so that's where they are starting. Lull appears to generally only be for when an attack is about to hit him but it works for multiple incoming attacks at once and attacks with an area of effect large enough to completely engulf him. The one time where something got through the attack gave the character in question Danmaku.

 

[M_Animefan]

"Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and the other has a range of 20 meter they start 20 meter apart. However if the range of one character is 10 meter and the range of the other is 5 kilometer, they start only 4 kilometer apart. If extreme advantages are generated via this distance to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread."

This is what the Standard Battle Assumptions page says. While Caesar and Giyu's pages don't give a specific number they both have a range of several meters, so that's where they are starting. Lull appears to generally only be for when an attack is about to hit him but it works for multiple incoming attacks at once and attacks with an area of effect large enough to completely engulf him. The one time where something got through the attack gave the character in question Danmaku.

Let’s say 20meters

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Let’s say 20meters

Sure.

 

[M_Animefan]

Sure.

Updated the match post to „20 meters“.

 

[Jibz]

Alr so whats the range for lull? AFAIK the abilty is just him slashing away all the stuff flung at him so i highly doubt itll be 20 meters. Ceaser would most likely fall back, because he’s a ranged fighter fighting a dude with a sword (not exactly optimal for him).

So he’d just fall back and throw volleys of bubbles untill Giyuu tires out and succumbs.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Alr so whats the range for lull? AFAIK the abilty is just him slashing away all the stuff flung at him so i highly doubt itll be 20 meters. Ceaser would most likely fall back, because he’s a ranged fighter fighting a dude with a sword (not exactly optimal for him).

So he’d just fall back and throw volleys of bubbles untill Giyuu tires out and succumbs.

"Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and the other has a range of 20 meter they start 20 meter apart. However if the range of one character is 10 meter and the range of the other is 5 kilometer, they start only 4 kilometer apart. If extreme advantages are generated via this distance to one side, a balanced alternative should be discussed in the thread."

This is what the Standard Battle Assumptions page says. While Caesar and Giyu's pages don't give a specific number they both have a range of several meters, so that's where they are starting. Lull appears to generally only be for when an attack is about to hit him but it works for multiple incoming attacks at once and attacks with an area of effect large enough to completely engulf him. The one time where something got through the attack gave the character in question Danmaku.

I'd say that the range for Giyu's Lull is his direct vicinity as attacks are only affected the moment they are about to hit him. Lull doesn't seem to be particularly taxing for Giyu since he just casually used it against a demon that he fodderized. It should also be considered that a lot of demons have higher range than demon slayers and that they can usually deal with that just fine. With speed equalized Caesar won't exactly have an easy time increasing the distance between Giyu and himself and the further away he is the easier it'll be for Giyu to just dodge whatever bubbles are thrown at him. You should also take into account Giyu's stamina description:

"Extremely High. Comparable to Tanjiro, who could fight for a week with barely enough human necessities. Likely took Urokodaki's training, which involved training in a mountain with low air, and constant traps. Pillars can train for months through training that almost puts them on the verge of death. Fought Lower Moon-level Demons in the Infinity Fortress for nearly 5 hours on top of fighting Upper Moon 3, Akaza, only passing out from exhaustion after the latter was dead."

 

[Jibz]

I'd say that the range for Giyu's Lull is his direct vicinity as attacks are only affected the moment they are about to hit him. Lull doesn't seem to be particularly taxing for Giyu since he just casually used it against a demon that he fodderized. It should also be considered that a lot of demons have higher range than demon slayers and that they can usually deal with that just fine. With speed equalized Caesar won't exactly have an easy time increasing the distance between Giyu and himself and the further away he is the easier it'll be for Giyu to just dodge whatever bubbles are thrown at him. You should also take into account Giyu's stamina description:

"Extremely High. Comparable to Tanjiro, who could fight for a week with barely enough human necessities. Likely took Urokodaki's training, which involved training in a mountain with low air, and constant traps. Pillars can train for months through training that almost puts them on the verge of death. Fought Lower Moon-level Demons in the Infinity Fortress for nearly 5 hours on top of fighting Upper Moon 3, Akaza, only passing out from exhaustion after the latter was dead."

The whole point of Lull is him constantly slashing away attacks, so yes overtime it will be taxing. Ceaser was put through rigorous training whilst his hamon capabilities were dampened for 61 hours straight so i doubt stamina will be an issue for him either, especially since hamon can delay thirst, hunger and other bodily functions.

True itll be hard for him to run away, but itll also be hard for Giyuu to keep up. As for it being harder to throw bubbles the further he is away. Its not like he’s throwing just one, he can fling countless bubbles towards Giyuu’s direction.

 

[Nehz_XZX]

The whole point of Lull is him constantly slashing away attacks, so yes overtime it will be taxing. Ceaser was put through rigorous training whilst his hamon capabilities were dampened for 61 hours straight so i doubt stamina will be an issue for him either, especially since hamon can delay thirst, hunger and other bodily functions.

True itll be hard for him to run away, but itll also be hard for Giyuu to keep up. As for it being harder to throw bubbles the further he is away. Its not like he’s throwing just one, he can fling countless bubbles towards Giyuu’s direction.

That's assuming Giyu will even need to use Lull constantly. With the starting distance being 20 meters and speed equalized simply dodging will be no problem. Actually, Caesar's profile just gives him several meters for his bubbles which is rather short since tens of meters exists as a range rating, so would that need an update?

Giyu has Acrobatics and has displayed the capability of jumping up to high heights and demon slayers have displayed formidable midair maneuvers at multiple points in the series, so Giyu should have an easier time avoiding obstacles while chasing Caesar than Caesar will have with avoiding obstacles while running away.

 

[Shey]

What even are the values that they scale too? Or does it even matter here,,,cause it's looking pretty one sided

 

[Nehz_XZX]

What even are the values that they scale too? Or does it even matter here,,,cause it's looking pretty one sided

The exact values probably don't matter as much as Giyu being City-Block level+ and Multi-City Block level with the Demon Slayer Mark and Caesar being Large Building Level. Caesar's Attack Potency or Durability are little to no problem to Giyu.

 

[Shey]

Can't see Caesar winning with that, isn't this a stomp?

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Can't see Caesar winning with that, isn't this a stomp?

Well, Caesar can ignore durability, so that's something that he can use to make up for the strength difference.

 

[StekFence]

I mean, he could just send hamon through the ground. And hope the other guy doesn’t jump

 

[Nehz_XZX]

I mean, he could just send hamon through the ground. And hope the other guy doesn’t jump

Has anyone actually sent Hamon through the ground in the series? I recall that being done with all sorts of objects including walls but I don't recall there being an example with the ground. Would that be in-character?

 

[StekFence]

Has anyone actually sent Hamon through the ground in the series? I

Jonathan has, and is less skilled than zeppeli.

 

[StekFence]

Would that be in-character?

No. It would be something he could do if he sees his normal attacks are not working

 

[Nehz_XZX]

Jonathan has, and is less skilled than zeppeli.

Okay.

No. It would be something he could do if he sees his normal attacks are not working

So, it might be something he will do later. If I'm not wrong, Hamon energy isn't invisible, so Giyu will be able to see it coming if he pays attention which he will most likely do and if Caesar makes the effort to touch the ground to send Hamon through it, then that will probably tip Giyu off since he will have seen a good deal of what Caesar can do at that point.

 

[Arkenis]

bump