[genshin impact] focalors changes

[FentyBeauty]

okay so i’m gonna go over focalors’ profile & point out what looks confusing

powers and abilities

Curse Manipulation & Power Nullification (Focalors was able to put a curse on Furina so that Furina will not be able to die as long as Focalors is still alive)

why does she have power null for that? nothing in that pic shows that it has anything to do with that except for curses so like it should be removed

Passive Telekinesis (When Neuvillette enters the dimension where Focalors is hiding, many objects are seen floating without being touched at all)

that could also just be the way the inside of the oratrice is, rather than her doing that, but idk i’ll wait for what ppl have to say abt that

stats

Attack Potency: At least Country level (cut. Focalors has enough energy to support Fontaine for thousands of years)

supporting fontaine for centuries, isn’t that like preparation related bc she’s just accumulating indemnitium for over 500 years thru the oratrice? it’s not like she herself has all that power n can do that all at once because otherwise she wouldn’t need to do all that with the oratrice

that should just be listed as prep

Lifting Strength: Class K (Comparable to her archon peers to the likes of Zhongli, who could easily lift the entire mass of the Guyun Stone Forest, as the islands are comprised of what little remains of the mountainous stone spears he once threw at Osial)

Striking Strength: At least Country level (Should be comparable to Ei)

is there also any other reason why she’s the same as ei and zhongli other than for having a gnosis?? venti’s LS isn’t even the same as zhongli’s & neither is ei’s and nahida’s, so i’m confused about y focalors specifically has same physicals as ei and zhongli (he isn’t even class K either)

idk why she has any physical stats too because she’s lits just pure divinity. we also don’t know much abt what she was like before she separated herself from furina so i feel like her physical stats should just be unknown for now

oh focalors ur fading…

 

[MSahla]

why does she have power null for that? nothing in that pic shows that it has anything to do with that except for curses so like it should be removed

Yeah i also dont know why it has PowerNull on it lol

that could also just be the way the inside of the oratrice is, rather than her doing that, but idk i’ll wait for what ppl have to say abt that

Well i guess thats a domain created by her, but i also dont see why it can be considered as telekinesis anyway but.. We'll see.

is there also any other reason why she’s the same as ei and zhongli other than for having a gnosis?? venti’s LS isn’t even the same as zhongli’s & neither is ei’s and nahida’s, so i’m confused about y focalors specifically has same physicals as ei and zhongli (he isn’t even class K either)

idk why she has any physical stats too because she’s lits just pure divinity. we also don’t know much abt what she was like before she separated herself from furina so i feel like her physical stats should just be unknown for now

oh focalors ur fading…

The one who made that Profile of her assuming because she's an archon, therefore, she's comparable to the other archons.

Which is not that necessarily, not all archons having the same strenght like Nahida, she's not that strong strenght-wise.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

OP looks reasonable, but would really like supporters to take a look at it and discuss it to cover all bases.

 

[Furina003]

okay so i’m gonna go over focalors’ profile & point out what looks confusing

powers and abilities

why does she have power null for that? nothing in that pic shows that it has anything to do with that except for curses so like it should be removed

She made furina have no power whatsoever and become a real human

that could also just be the way the inside of the oratrice is, rather than her doing that, but idk i’ll wait for what ppl have to say abt that

the domain is a creation of focalors and we can see what is happening inside the domain, everything is floating without any physical touch

stats

supporting fontaine for centuries, isn’t that like preparation related bc she’s just accumulating indemnitium for over 500 years thru the oratrice? it’s not like she herself has all that power n can do that all at once because otherwise she wouldn’t need to do all that with the oratrice

that should just be listed as prep

Attack potency refers to the energy she can release, and focalors have all of that energy and can release it in one attack, just like she did when punishing herself.

is there also any other reason why she’s the same as ei and zhongli other than for having a gnosis?? venti’s LS isn’t even the same as zhongli’s & neither is ei’s and nahida’s, so i’m confused about y focalors specifically has same physicals as ei and zhongli (he isn’t even class K either)

idk why she has any physical stats too because she’s lits just pure divinity. we also don’t know much abt what she was like before she separated herself from furina so i feel like her physical stats should just be unknown for now

oh focalors ur fading…

Basically, all archons have the same base power because they all hold their respective elemental authority. Venti can fly mountains and so on after he became an archon, which means that what makes Venti able to do this is because of his elemental authority as an archon.

 

[FentyBeauty]

She made furina have no power whatsoever and become a real human

well that’s bc furina is her humanity, she just separated her divinity from her own humanity, and we know that archons have like… divine power, so furina doesn’t have any power bc the one with that power is not a part of furina anymore

also ya she is a human, but she didn't rlly become a true human atp bc in the trial when she had to test the primordial sea water, sigewinne said that she had the same symptoms as other fontainians who had exposure to the sea water of similar concentration in the water she put her hand in, and like we know that fontainians originated from/as oceanids, which was also focalors at one point

so like furina didn't rlly become anything bc she's just focalors' humanity without her divinity

the domain is a creation of focalors and we can see what is happening inside the domain, everything is floating without any physical touch

even if it is her creation, the stuff floating could just be like idk the nature of the room, which wouldn't rlly mean it's an ability that she would have unless she's the one actually making the room do that and if its not literally something to do with the way the room is

but anyways i'm just going off of assumptions so i lowkey don't even know!

Attack potency refers to the energy she can release, and focalors have all of that energy and can release it in one attack, just like she did when punishing herself.

ya but like for cases that involve preparation, whatever she did with all that built up indemnitium would just be listed as prep in her ap since it's not something she would normally do, and to basically like note that the amt she can do at that moment is only limited to her using prep

also am i allowed to bring up comics dr doom in a genshin thread bc he has what i'm talking abt in his profile

Basically, all archons have the same base power because they all hold their respective elemental authority. Venti can fly mountains and so on after he became an archon, which means that what makes Venti able to do this is because of his elemental authority as an archon.

ya that's cute but like it looks a weird bc venti’s and ei’s LS r not the same as zhongli’s even tho they're archons, so just wanted to bring up this issue with focalors since we're going off that she's equal to other archons for being an archon and she's somehow the same as zhongli, when the other archons like don't even have the same LS stats

idk if that's just an issue with updating their profiles tho but if she can have the same stats as other archons bc of her status then like i'm fine with that i guess

 

[Furina003]

well that’s bc furina is her humanity, she just separated her divinity from her own humanity, and we know that archons have like… divine power, so furina doesn’t have any power bc the one with that power is not a part of furina anymore

also ya she is a human, but she didn't rlly become a true human atp bc in the trial when she had to test the primordial sea water, sigewinne said that she had the same symptoms as other fontainians who had exposure to the sea water of similar concentration in the water she put her hand in, and like we know that fontainians originated from/as oceanids, which was also focalors at one point

so like furina didn't rlly become anything bc she's just focalors' humanity without her divinity

Yes, Furina is a normal human and has no powers, but if you think that's not enough, it's okay, just remove it.

even if it is her creation, the stuff floating could just be like idk the nature of the room, which wouldn't rlly mean it's an ability that she would have unless she's the one actually making the room do that and if its not literally something to do with the way the room is

but anyways i'm just going off of assumptions so i lowkey don't even know!

okay now what do you think she got, we can't ignore the clear visual evidence

ya but like for cases that involve preparation, whatever she did with all that built up indemnitium would just be listed as prep in her ap since it's not something she would normally do, and to basically like note that the amt she can do at that moment is only limited to her using prep

also am i allowed to bring up comics dr doom in a genshin thread bc he has what i'm talking abt in his profile

what requires a process is when the focalors collect the energy, not when they release the energy. In scaling, what we see is the character's strongest condition, which means the focalors already have all the energy and the focalors can release it in one attack. So it's okay to scale to AP.

ya that's cute but like it looks a weird bc venti’s and ei’s LS r not the same as zhongli’s even tho they're archons, so just wanted to bring up this issue with focalors since we're going off that she's equal to other archons for being an archon and she's somehow the same as zhongli, when the other archons like don't even have the same LS stats

idk if that's just an issue with updating their profiles tho but if she can have the same stats as other archons bc of her status then like i'm fine with that i guess

Yes, because Venti did that using elemental authority and all archons have that authority.

 

[PedjaTarzan]

Yeah i also dont know why it has PowerNull on it lol

Well i guess thats a domain created by her, but i also dont see why it can be considered as telekinesis anyway but.. We'll see.

The one who made that Profile of her assuming because she's an archon, therefore, she's comparable to the other archons.

Which is not that necessarily, not all archons having the same strenght like Nahida, she's not that strong strenght-wise.

This plus what OP said, i agree

 

[Voidnether]

okay so i’m gonna go over focalors’ profile & point out what looks confusing

powers and abilities

why does she have power null for that? nothing in that pic shows that it has anything to do with that except for curses so like it should be removed


that could also just be the way the inside of the oratrice is, rather than her doing that, but idk i’ll wait for what ppl have to say abt that

stats

supporting fontaine for centuries, isn’t that like preparation related bc she’s just accumulating indemnitium for over 500 years thru the oratrice? it’s not like she herself has all that power n can do that all at once because otherwise she wouldn’t need to do all that with the oratrice

that should just be listed as prep



is there also any other reason why she’s the same as ei and zhongli other than for having a gnosis?? venti’s LS isn’t even the same as zhongli’s & neither is ei’s and nahida’s, so i’m confused about y focalors specifically has same physicals as ei and zhongli (he isn’t even class K either)

idk why she has any physical stats too because she’s lits just pure divinity. we also don’t know much abt what she was like before she separated herself from furina so i feel like her physical stats should just be unknown for now

oh focalors ur fading…

Sure yeah, thread makes sense to me as someone who revised the profile as it was barely readable before I revised it. It doesn't even make sense at first glance and all this only passed cause it's a profile creation, like usual in which you don't need a CRT for that

Everything is unjustifiable given Focalors is the special case of an Archon where she literally never fought anyone and it was purely her intelligence

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Looks good to me

 

[InfinityTurtleHD]

Yeah, there's nothing implying she's on par with a god who can cut an island in half. The thing about Archons is they vary in stats and are not necessarily. Archon A may be stronger in strength, but Archon B makes up for higher intellect. The thing is, if they are on par with an one strength-wise, there needs to be feat that backs up that statement.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Agree with OP atm.

 

[FentyBeauty]

oopsie i forgot abt this

i honestly don’t rlly wanna continue this bc i started uni for pre-nursing last week & im also in volleyball rn so i basically can’t do much here anymore

so like if this does get accepted then can someone put these stuff for focalors? if it’s like not then this can be closed! ty lots