Frieza vs Cell

[Robo432343]

Frieza (DBS Anime)

Frieza (フリーザ, Furīza?) is the leader of the Planet Trade Organization and the son of King Cold, who, unopposed, ruled over the majority of the Seventh Universe for decades. Thanks to his mutant and hybrid status, Frieza was born with an abnormally high power level. He never needed to train a day...

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Cell (Toei)

Cell is the ultimate creation of Dr. Gero, created from the DNA of the greatest fighters to ever visit Earth and tasked with the simple goal of killing Son Goku. However, to reach his perfect form and full power, Cell must absorb Gero's other biomechanical creations; the Androids, 17 and 18...

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[FireSwordHero]

Goku vs Kenshiro? Who the **** would make this kind of one sided stomp -

Checks OP

Oh its you. Why haven't you been banned yet?

 

[TheRadiantSoul]

This a spite match either way. Don't matter for whom.

 

[Robo432343]

Goku vs Kenshiro? Who the **** would make this kind of one sided stomp -

Checks OP

Oh its you. Why haven't you been banned yet?

bro it was supposed to be frieza vs cell

 

[Huesito88]

bro it was supposed to be frieza vs cell

lol no it definitely wasn't, I saw it with my own eyes (you even put a image of Kenshiro fighting Goku) (You also left the Kenshiro vs Goku tags)

 

[Robo432343]

lol no it definitely wasn't, I saw it with my own eyes (you even put a image of Kenshiro fighting Goku) (You also left the Kenshiro vs Goku tags)

yes

 

[FireSwordHero]

bro it was supposed to be frieza vs cell

Bullshit. I saved the screenshot. Don't ******* try to gaslight me.

Also this is still a stomp.

 

[Robo432343]

Bullshit. I saved the screenshot. Don't ******* try to gaslight me.

Also this is still a stomp.

yes u said its a stomp
so i changed it to frieza vs cell

 

[FireSwordHero]

yes u said its a stomp
so i changed it to frieza vs cell

Like I said, bullshit. You're just scared of the mods shutting your thread again so you changed the matchup.

Honestly you are just one more post away from being banned and you know it.

 

[Baken384]

yes u said its a stomp
so i changed it to frieza vs cell

I knew bro was not up to no good again.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I'm not so sure where Cell scales. His profile states he confidently challenges Goku even knowing he can beat Kid Buu so:

Kid Buu ~ SS3 Goku > (200x) > Buuhan > (2x) > Base Goku = Ultimate Gohan = Buutenks > (2x) > SS3 Gotenks >/= Super Buu > (400x) > Base Gotenks = 2-C​

That'd put Kid Buu and SS3 Goku at around 320,000x 2-C potentially. With Cell scaling to or above Kid Buu.

In terms of GT Goku:

Super 17 SS1 Goku > Majuub > Baby Saga SS3 Goku > (400x) > Baby Saga Base Goku > SS1 Gohan > (50x) > Base Gohan > SS1 Goten > (50x> Base Goten > Rildo > Kid Buu​

That would put SS1 Goku in the Super 17 Saga at 320 billion times which would then put Base Goku at 6.4 billion times.

So Cell would scale anywhere from 320,000x to 6.4 billion times 3 2-C.

As for Freeza, he would be 6 2-C in the Broly arc so we can't use that version. The strongest version we can use is his key in the Tournament of Power:

Golden Freeza = Goku Blue (Pre-UIS) > (50x) > SSG Goku = Hit (Early ToP) = SSB Goku (Post-Black) ~ SSR Black ~ SSB Vegeta (Post-HTC) > (8,000,000x) > Base Black > SSB Vegeta (Pre-HTC) > (8,000,000x) > Base Vegeta (Pre-HTC) > Base Goku (Post-BoG) = 2x 3 2-C​

That would make ToP Golden Freeza 6.4 quadrillion times 2-C (50 x 8,000,000 x 8,000,000 x 2) which is an obvious stomp. And Base Freeza should at least scale to Base Goku/Vegeta who should be around 800,000,000x 2-C which would mean Cell stomps Base Freeza with his high end 6.4 billion times value.

And if we say RoF Freeza he would only be around 16,000,000x 2-C in Golden.

tl;dr
ToP Golden Freeza = 6.4 quadrillion > Highend Cell = 6.4 billion > ToP Base Freeza = 800 million > RoF Golden Freeza = 16 million > Lowend Cell = 320,000 > RoF Base Freeza = 2

So there isn't a single key here where the two of them are even remotely close. EIther Freeza stomps or Cell stomps.

Oh and something to muddy it further. IIRC DBZ Kai was accepted as canon to the DBS Anime so that may impact the scaling for Freeza a lot. Potentially upgrading him to the level that ToP Base Freeza would stomp Highend Cell.

 

[CryoTheMayo]

I'm not so sure where Cell scales. His profile states he confidently challenges Goku even knowing he can beat Kid Buu so:

Kid Buu ~ SS3 Goku > (200x) > Buuhan > (2x) > Base Goku = Ultimate Gohan = Buutenks > (2x) > SS3 Gotenks >/= Super Buu > (400x) > Base Gotenks = 2-C​

That'd put Kid Buu and SS3 Goku at around 320,000x 2-C potentially. With Cell scaling to or above Kid Buu.

In terms of GT Goku:

Super 17 SS1 Goku > Majuub > Baby Saga SS3 Goku > (400x) > Baby Saga Base Goku > SS1 Gohan > (50x) > Base Gohan > SS1 Goten > (50x> Base Goten > Rildo > Kid Buu​

That would put SS1 Goku in the Super 17 Saga at 320 billion times which would then put Base Goku at 6.4 billion times.

So Cell would scale anywhere from 320,000x to 6.4 billion times 3 2-C.

As for Freeza, he would be 6 2-C in the Broly arc so we can't use that version. The strongest version we can use is his key in the Tournament of Power:

Golden Freeza = Goku Blue (Pre-UIS) > (50x) > SSG Goku = Hit (Early ToP) = SSB Goku (Post-Black) ~ SSR Black ~ SSB Vegeta (Post-HTC) > (8,000,000x) > Base Black > SSB Vegeta (Pre-HTC) > (8,000,000x) > Base Vegeta (Pre-HTC) > Base Goku (Post-BoG) = 2x 3 2-C​

That would make ToP Golden Freeza 6.4 quadrillion times 2-C (50 x 8,000,000 x 8,000,000 x 2) which is an obvious stomp. And Base Freeza should at least scale to Base Goku/Vegeta who should be around 800,000,000x 2-C which would mean Cell stomps Base Freeza with his high end 6.4 billion times value.

And if we say RoF Freeza he would only be around 16,000,000x 2-C in Golden.

tl;dr
ToP Golden Freeza = 6.4 quadrillion > Highend Cell = 6.4 billion > ToP Base Freeza = 800 million > RoF Golden Freeza = 16 million > Lowend Cell = 320,000 > RoF Base Freeza = 2

So there isn't a single key here where the two of them are even remotely close. EIther Freeza stomps or Cell stomps.

Oh and something to muddy it further. IIRC DBZ Kai was accepted as canon to the DBS Anime so that may impact the scaling for Freeza a lot. Potentially upgrading him to the level that ToP Base Freeza would stomp Highend Cell.

To clarify if the Kai anime is canon to the DBS Anime then that should make Goku and co 2-C even before Super Saiyan God because the Buuhan feat happens in Kai and I believe Kid Buu is explicitly the strongest Buu in Kai.

SS3 Goku (Kai) = Kid Buu (Kai) = 1,600 > Buuhan = 2-C > (2x) > Ultimate Gohan = Buutenks > (2x) > SS3 Gotenks >/= Super Buu > (400x) > Base Gotenks = Baseline

In short if we just say Base Goku is 4x 2-C before BoG he would be 1,280,000x 2-C after adapting to the power of SSG and breaking his limits.

DBZ Kai scale:
Base Goku/Vegeta (ToP) = Base Freeza (ToP) = 512 trillion times > Golden Freeza (RoF) > SSB Goku (RoF) = 10.24 trillion times (8,000,000x Base) > Highend Cell = 6.4 billion > Base Goku (RoF) > Base Freeza > Base Goku (Post-BoG) = 1,280,000x > Lowend Cell = 320,000x

tl;dr
If applying a rough DBZ Kai scale to the DBS Anime, Lowend Cell would be stomped by every key Freeza has. Highend Cell would only stomp RoF Base Freeza and would be stomped by every other Freeza key.