Firecracker-Sized Explosions?

[Flashlight237]

Hey there. So, I was watching the Smurfs hoping that it can help things out a little. The thing about them is that they focus primarily on the Smurfs, which have an exact figure of 7.5 inches (according to the 2011 movie), which fits with their classic description of being three apples tall given the figure stacks them against smaller apples: http://www.stemilt.com/assets/pdfs/AppleSizing.pdf

A common feat in the show was Jokey's surprise boxes (there's a naivety epidemic in the Smurf Village), which explodes when opened: https://prnt.sc/wdc6ke

Interestingly, I've noted that the boxes are exactly 1/3 the size of a smurf (they're typically measured from hat to toe), or 2.5 inches. These things should be comparable to small firecrackers (bang snaps at worst, but the most likely firework comparable to Jokey's boxes are these: http://prntscr.com/wdgsp7 ), but so far, I've been getting highly-inaccurate results based on material composition: nothing but Street-level calculations despite Jokey's boxes not doing more than minor damage within a 15-cm radius (enough to cover a Smurf's hat in soot: http://prntscr.com/wdgul4 )

How powerful, exactly, ARE firecrackers, particularly tinier ones?

 

[Imaginym]

Pretty interesting. How was it learned the figures are 7.5 inches? (I recall being experienced with apple measurements, thanks to Hello Kitty.)
Also, you say "highly inaccurate", but if the explosion depicted is Street Level, is calling it inaccurate because of prioritizing the damage over the calculated yield of the explosion itself?

 

[Flashlight237]

Pretty interesting. How was it learned the figures are 7.5 inches? (I recall being experienced with apple measurements, thanks to Hello Kitty.)
Also, you say "highly inaccurate", but if the explosion depicted is Street Level, is calling it inaccurate because of prioritizing the damage over the calculated yield of the explosion itself?

Yeah, prioritizing damage is the goal here.

 

[FinePoint]

A typical firecracker contains about 500J of chemical energy, which is street level.

 

[Imaginym]

A typical firecracker contains about 500J of chemical energy, which is street level.

I don't like the idea of immediately disbelieving you, but I feel that I should ask: Source?

 

[KLOL506]

I don't like the idea of immediately disbelieving you, but I feel that I should ask: Source?

Here you go (Some of the links in the reddit post also show further references to official explosives documents describing the yield)

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

I'm confused, are you just in disbelief that fire crackers are street level?

They hurt.

 

[Imaginym]

I'm confused, are you just in disbelief that fire crackers are street level?

They hurt.

No, I just consider it important that, if we are to tier something, especially as commonplace as this, we at least have a source on the value we're assigning, like we do with our Reference for Common Feats blogs, & the Destruction Values for various materials listed on our Calculations page.

 

[KLOL506]

No, I just consider it important that, if we are to tier something, especially as commonplace as this, we at least have a source on the value we're assigning, like we do with our Reference for Common Feats blogs, & the Destruction Values for various materials listed on our Calculations page.

Well you can use the reddit link which has further links to official documentations of actual fireworks yields for the tiny bois

 

[Imaginym]

Well you can use the reddit link which has further links to official documentations of actual fireworks yields for the tiny bois

Oh, definitely. Although I will value getting some sort of page citing those citations on our Wiki at some point. But shameful of me as my ignorance may be, I wouldn't have known about that page in the first place had I not asked for -& thankfully, received- source in the first place.

 

[DeathstroketheHedgehog]

No, I just consider it important that, if we are to tier something, especially as commonplace as this, we at least have a source on the value we're assigning, like we do with our Reference for Common Feats blogs, & the Destruction Values for various materials listed on our Calculations page.

I mean I was referring to the original comment, but okay.

 

[KLOL506]

Oh, definitely. Although I will value getting some sort of page citing those citations on our Wiki at some point. But shameful of me as my ignorance may be, I wouldn't have known about that page in the first place had I not asked for -& thankfully, received- source in the first place.

Our wiki already has links which then links to even more citations towards official documentation of said values tho. Sometimes they directly link to the documentations themselves (Some links directly link to the pdfs too).

 

[Imaginym]

Our wiki already has links which then links to even more citations towards official documentation of said values tho. Sometimes they directly link to the documentations themselves (Some links directly link to the pdfs too).

Oh. Even for fireworks, possibly even tinier ones like those brought up mentioned in the OP? In that case, big oof. My mistake. Please forgive my error.

I mean I was referring to the original comment, but okay.

Oh lol. I wasn't incredulous about firecrackers being Street Level; There, I was more curious why Flashlight237 was doubting the yield of their own calculations, which, as I understand it, claimed the fireworks were Street Level.

Sorry for any problems, all.

 

[KLOL506]

Oh. Even for fireworks, possibly even tinier ones like those brought up mentioned in the OP? In that case, big oof. My mistake. Please forgive my error.

Nah, I meant for normal values in general like destruction values, speed values and such. We never had stuff for fireworks in the first place. I was thinking about adding a lot more stuff to the References page but I simply never got the time and I am stunted even further as my PC died and I'm running a laptop instead.

 

[FinePoint]

The reason the destruction of a firecracker doesn't line-up with the energy of its explosion is obvious, to tier a character with an explosion you should calculate the energy of the shockwave they're hit with based on their distance from the blast. Unless they're at the exact epicenter of the blast.

 

[KLOL506]

The reason the destruction of a firecracker doesn't line-up with the energy of its explosion is obvious, to tier a character with an explosion you should calculate the energy of the shockwave they're hit with based on their distance from the blast. Unless they're at the exact epicenter of the blast.

Nah, nobody wanted to know the exact amount required to destroy a firecracker shell, just that they wanted to know how much energy a firecracker releases upon going boom.