Dragon ball

[Sus]

Why the manga is 3B? Isn't shaking the universe 4A?

Is there a calculation or it's just a midball because of the unknown timeframe?

 

[Nullflowerblush]

the real question is why aren't they 3-a

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Wait shaking the universe isn't universal?

I'm actually surprised.

Would shaking multiple universes grant a 3-A rating

 

[MidnightDawn1]

the real question is why aren't they 3-a

The manga characters tend to be weaker. This not only applies to Dragonball but every story in general.

But the manga basically retconned the Universal feat and decided to make the characters Galaxy Level instead.

This is why whenever people try to debunk Universal Dragonball they use manga scans.

Despite them being separate canons.

It's honestly annoying.

 

[Sus]

Wait shaking the universe isn't universal?

It's 3A range with 4A ap

 

[Nullflowerblush]

This is why whenever people try to debunk Universal Dragonball they use manga scans.

The manga is actually more consistent with its cosmic scaling than the anime is.

After the Battle of Gods Saga, the anime made little mention of cosmic-level feats outside of the occasional "two Gods of Destruction battling would destroy the universe". In the manga, Beerus and Champa threatened to wreck the universe in a flashback, Zamasu threatened to wipe out the galaxy in a fit of rage, Moro threatened to explode and destroy all the galaxies in the universe, and Granolah is a ******* mess.

Regardless, Goku and Beerus threatened to destroy the universe in the manga, just like they did in the anime. What is the issue?

 

[Sus]

Guys answer the main question plz

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Regardless, Goku and Beerus threatened to destroy the universe in the manga, just like they did in the anime. What is the issue?

According to the profiles the time frame isn’t explicitly specified, whereas in the anime it’s clear the universe would’ve been instantly obliterated if the dense energy ball weren’t nullified.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Honestly I think the universe shaking is just another supporting feat (As mentioned above 4-A AP/3-A range). E.g: Moro was going to blow up the galaxy with a suicide attack even tho weaker characters are 3-B also AoE fallacy plays somewhat of a role here too.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Since no one is answering sus' main question I will, they didn't simply shake the universe, they threatened to destroy the whole thing in an unknown time frame through just clashing, destroying the universe in a reasonable time frame would require at least multi galactic levels of energy.
The difference in the anime is that, we are given a time frame, and also multiple universe busting attacks and statements like the super dense energy which was actually going to poof the universe away the moment it exploded or Goku and beerus hitting each other with universal attack potency.

Moro threatened to explode and destroy all the galaxies in the universe

Wouldn't that make moro 3-A?

 

[Thelastmlg]

Well, there could be some "universe" left without the galaxies, so it would be like, super high end 3-B, maybe borderline 3-A

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Well, there could be some "universe" left without the galaxies, so it would be like, super high end 3-B, maybe borderline 3-A

If that statement of him destroying all galaxies is legit, then we can actually get a calculation for that, it would be like you said so high into 3-B or borderline 3-A since the definition of universe level is destroying the most durable object located at the edge of the universe with an omnidirectional explosion from earth or something like that.

 

[sanicspood]

Wouldn't that make moro 3-A?

someone already tried to make a crt on that but ofc got rejected

 

[Reio35]

Wait shaking the universe isn't universal?

I'm actually surprised.

Would shaking multiple universes grant a 3-A rating

Shaking a universe is not significantly affecting it. If i shake a mountain does that make me mountain level?

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Shaking a universe is not significantly affecting it. If I shake a mountain does that make me mountain level?

Not but makes you Town to City Level.

I asked if shaking Multiple Universes would grant you a 3-A rating.

Since shaking multiple should wield higher response escpislly since baseline Universal is just Multi-galaxy level to a higher extent.

Notice how I'm putting focus on the word Multiple. Cuz you clearly didn't the first time.

What would've been a better come back is

"if I shake multiple Mountains does that make me mountain level?"

 

[MidnightDawn1]

Also, how is shaking a Universe to the point where every planet, Star, galaxy and solar system Is feeling it not significantly affecting it?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Shaking the universe is Multi-Solar System level guys.

 

[Sus]

Wouldn't that make moro 3-A?

If he doesn't cover the distance, nope

 

[Sus]

Not but makes you Town to City Level.

I asked if shaking Multiple Universes would grant you a 3-A rating.

Since shaking multiple should wield higher response escpislly since baseline Universal is just Multi-galaxy level to a higher extent.

Notice how I'm putting focus on the word Multiple. Cuz you clearly didn't the first time.

What would've been a better come back is

"if I shake multiple Mountains does that make me mountain level?"

Dude, no, shaking the universe is 4A

 

[Sus]

Shaking the universe is literally range, 99% of the universe is made up of nothing, it logically doesn't give 3A

 

[Hasty12345]

Why the manga is 3B? Isn't shaking the universe 4A?

Moro scaling iirc

 

[Sus]

Moro scaling iirc

Bog is also 3B

 

[Hasty12345]

Bog is also 3B

should be 4-A to 3-C tbh

 

[Sus]

should be 4-A to 3-C tbh

That's why i asked, I don't see why it's 3B

 

[Hasty12345]

That's why i asked, I don't see why it's 3B

yeah neither do I tbh, at least not at BOG arc, later arcs I get

 

[Sus]

I'll wait if others have an answer

 

[KLOL506]

Like the others said, Goku and Beerus threatened to destroy the universe over-time in the manga, they weren't just shaking it, but since the time-frame is unknown, they'd be at least 3-B in the bare minimum.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

I'll wait if others have an answer

Bruh, I literally answered your question. Did you read it?

 

[Sus]

Bruh, I literally answered your question. Did you read it?

Which one? I didn't notice maybe

 

[Sus]

Since no one is answering sus' main question I will, they didn't simply shake the universe, they threatened to destroy the whole thing in an unknown time frame through just clashing, destroying the universe in a reasonable time frame would require at least multi galactic levels of energy.
The difference in the anime is that, we are given a time frame, and also multiple universe busting attacks and statements like the super dense energy which was actually going to poof the universe away the moment it exploded or Goku and beerus hitting each other with universal attack potency.

Wouldn't that make moro 3-A?

Yeah, i didn't notice, thank you and sorry for unintentionally ignoring you

 

[Thelastmlg]

The gap between 3-B and 3-A is 1.04x10^23, so even if they took that many seconds, which is over 3 quadrillion years worth of straight punching, they'd still be 3-B as long as they are destroying it in the end

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

The gap between 3-B and 3-A is 1.04x10^23, so even if they took that many seconds, which is over 3 quadrillion years worth of straight punching, they'd still be 3-B as long as they are destroying it in the end

Yeah AoE kinda needs to be instant or close to it tbh, there are character's that can "destroy" worlds but due to context and timeframe they rank anywhere from High 6-A to 5-B instead of being 5-A or higher.

 

[Sus]

I remembered someone who said that all characters are tier 0 until anti feats are proven