𝐃𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐨𝐧 𝐛𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐚𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐝𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧

[CelestialVortex01]

Howdy everyone, hope it's going well for y'all anyway, so you know how Goku's always breaking limits, right? Well, apparently, he’s out here breaking the weather app too, so without further yapping let's dive deep into this not so straight forward CRT.







-Solidifying Weather Manipulation





As per listed On Son Goku's anime profile, he has “Limited” Weather Manipulation on his profile due to creating stormy weather, when turning on his SSJ form.





Well that's cool and all, but that's not everything!





In Episode 9 of DBS



(Time stamp's 4:30 if playback doesn't work)




Upon Goku's transformation, we see the sudden appearance of Massive Golden-like Cloud Covering A huge distance of the ocean around the Ship , rain, snow & stormy weather all directly tied to his transformation shows that his energy or divine power is capable of affecting the weather, even if it’s unintentional.





So my proposal?



Remove this ugly phrase “Limited” from Weather Manipulation and we'd be good.




-Either solid or a possibly “Unconventional Non-Combat Applicable Time Manipulation”




In that same scene in EP9 we see the rapid cycling of day and night implies some form of localized time acceleration, as the Earth's natural time cycle is being affected. Since this wasn’t done intentionally for combat, it qualifies as "unconventional" and "non-combat applicable" time manipulation.





Counterargument:



Some might argue that the scene could be "just for dramatic effect" or a visual metaphor. But Dragon Ball has a long history of environmental shifts linked to transformations (like the sky turning dark for summoning shenron), given how explicitly the sun, moon, and weather are shown reacting to Goku's transformation, it feels less like "visual flair" and more like an in-universe event.

Note: I've had some discussions with the supporters upon this feat, and some of them suggested that it could be a LS feat.




-Additions for Shin.





In EP3 of DB Daima we were shown that Shin had the ability to change Goku's ears to pointy ones similar to the creatures of the Demon realm, so yeah Either limited or solid Biological Manipulation is fine by me.





Moreover, his Gender should be changed to Genderless as we were told in EP6 of Daima that the Glinds are genderless





Oh yeah one more thing, in his classification section we should add Glind and add Nahare to his names section too





Yeah that's pretty much everything.


Agree: @RoninSlayer200 @TheGreatBanana @Gamin_Yoon23 @Da3ggman (Partial agreement) @Ednaxel2 @Killerdrone123 @LuffyRuffy46307 @AwkguyDB
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[RoninSlayer200]

bunch of useless additions but agree

 

[CelestialVortex01]

bunch of useless additions but agree

Next crt is gonna cause a war
Counted!

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Next crt is gonna cause a war

Is bro preparing to make 5D Goku thread

 

[TheGreatBanana]

All looks good.

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

I agree

 

[Da3ggman]

Howdy everyone, hope it's going well for y'all anyway, so you know how Goku's always breaking limits, right? Well, apparently, he’s out here breaking the weather app too, so without further yapping let's dive deep into this not so straight forward CRT.







-Solidifying Weather Manipulation





As per listed On Son Goku's anime profile, he has “Limited” Weather Manipulation on his profile due to creating stormy weather, when turning on his SSJ form.





Well that's cool and all, but that's not everything!





In Episode 9 of DBS



(Time stamp's 4:30 if playback doesn't work)




Upon Goku's transformation, we see the sudden appearance of Massive Golden-like Cloud Covering A huge distance of the ocean around the Ship , rain, snow & stormy weather all directly tied to his transformation shows that his energy or divine power is capable of affecting the weather, even if it’s unintentional.





So my proposal?



Remove this ugly phrase “Limited” from Weather Manipulation and we'd be good.




-Either solid or a possibly “Unconventional Non-Combat Applicable Time Manipulation”




In that same scene in EP9 we see the rapid cycling of day and night implies some form of localized time acceleration, as the Earth's natural time cycle is being affected. Since this wasn’t done intentionally for combat, it qualifies as "unconventional" and "non-combat applicable" time manipulation.

Both of these seem more like byproducts of the ritual to give someone the ability to transform into SSG, rather than the actual transformation of Goku into SSG.

-Additions for Shin.





In EP3 of DB Daima we were shown that Shin had the ability to change Goku's ears to pointy ones similar to the creatures of the Demon realm, so yeah Either limited or solid Biological Manipulation is fine by me.





Moreover, his Gender should be changed to Genderless as we were told in EP6 of Daima that the Glinds are genderless





Oh yeah one more thing, in his classification section we should add Glind and add Nahare to his names section too

These all seem perfectly fine.

 

[UnoRebaixadO]

Next crt is gonna cause a war
Counted!

I have expectations, friend.

 

[CelestialVortex01]

Both of these seem more like byproducts of the ritual to give someone the ability to transform into SSG, rather than the actual transformation of Goku into SSG.

That’s a good point, but I think it’s more tied to Goku himself rather than the ritual itself. The thing is, the weather changes and the whole day-night cycle thing happen when Goku is already transforming, not during the part where they’re holding hands and doing the energy transferal (otherwise it would've happend at the very first time they tried it)

If it was just a ritual effect, wouldn’t all that weird stuff have happened while they were doing the ritual? Instead, it kicks in after Goku starts powering up into a Super Saiyan God. It feels like the environment is reacting to his transformation, not just the process of him getting the power, atleast that's how the scene interprets it imo.

These all seem perfectly fine.

Peak.

 

[Ednaxel2]

It’s very straight forward I agree

 

[Killerdrone123]

Looks alright from a glance I agree

 

[LuffyRuffy46307]

Good

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

I think limited weather manip is still appropriate since it doesn't really have much practical usage.

 

[CelestialVortex01]

I think limited weather manip is still appropriate since it doesn't really have much practical usage.

The thing is, calling it "limited" would be a downplay to the scale of what’s happening furthermore, the weather changes are pretty significant: Rain, Snow, Stormy weather, Golden- like clouds and literal ice were dropping, moreover weather manipulation doesn't really have to be combat applicable inorder to have a full rating as far as I know. So yeah

 

[Rez]

The thing is, calling it "limited" would be a downplay to the scale of what’s happening furthermore, the weather changes are pretty significant: Rain, Snow, Stormy weather, Golden- like clouds and literal ice were dropping, moreover weather manipulation doesn't really have to be combat applicable inorder to have a full rating as far as I know. So yeah

It will still be limited the scale doesn't matter, Goku or any other Saiyan can't consciously control or use these phenomenon in any way, they just happen to be the by product of their transformation and powering up.

 

[CelestialVortex01]

It will still be limited the scale doesn't matter, Goku or any other Saiyan can't consciously control or use these phenomenon in any way, they just happen to be the by product of their transformation and powering up.

That doesn't put a limitation to the ability, that would just make it Non-combat applicable (which I thought was already the case lol)

 

[AwkguyDB]

Agreed