Do higher tiered characters ALWAYS win on here?

[AB1124]

I'm relatively new to this forum — and have made a small handful of versus threads. However, in the threads I've made, the characters, in my opinion, have been suitable matches. The common trend I've seen is that people automatically give the fight to the character with a higher tier, regardless of what attributes comprise the justification for the higher tier.

For example, Batman, an ordinary human, has taken down threats with an incredibly high tier on paper — and that's just the situation. If we evaluate too closely as to what's on paper, then the higher tiered will always win when we don't take other factors in to consideration.

So, my question is, when criteria justifies a lowered tier character defeating a higher tiered character?

Are there any cases where a high 1-B defeats a 1-A? Or, where a 2-A defeats a 1-A?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

No, tier doesn't mean much.

Sans is one of the more prominent examples of this. 1-A matches are prohibited because of the nature of 1-A, so you will never find cases where one beats a 1-A, even if they themselves are.

 

[Ogbunabali]

Not always, but usually yeah. For instance a tier 6 character will stomp a tier 9 character due to sheer difference in attack potency, but it can be a stomp for the tier 9 character because he can have certain hax, like time stop, soul manipulation, existence erasure, etc.

Now for characters that are higher dimensional, it's always (until the tiering revisions hit) a stomp for the higher dimensional one, unless the lower dimensional one has feats or abilities that can affect and kill a higher dimensional one.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

No, tier doesn't mean much.

Sans is one of the more prominent examples of this. 1-A matches are prohibited because of the nature of 1-A, so you will never find cases where one beats a 1-A, even if they themselves are.

Actually 1-A matches are not banned youre thinking of Tier 0.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

tbh it completely depends on what characters have in their arsenal. An example being Naruto Uzumaki (Part II) would obviously lose to someone like Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) due to the strength difference. But if someone say Reinhard Heydrich fights goku he would win even though there is a massive tier and AP difference due to his abilities effective goku and him not resisting said abilities.

Its very situational at times too as in terms of physical abilities like 2-A and high 1-B trying to fight a 1-A they would get destroyed horribly unless the weaker characters have abilities that can effect and kill the 1-A and not die from being breathed on too hard

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Actually 1-A matches are not banned youre thinking of Tier 0.

No, I'm not.

1-A matches cannot be added by the wiki's rules.

 

[Ionliosite]

Okuyasu Nijimura, an 8-C, had a fair match against Zen O, a 2-C.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I think the point was made, no need to make this into "here's another character that can beat a higher tiered one!"

 

[Ionliosite]

Also, Batman is bad example. Read our polítics for comic power scaling and you'll know why: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Power-scaling_Rules_for_Marvel_and_DC_Comics

 

[The_New_God]

Are there any cases where a high 1-B defeats a 1-A? Or, where a 2-A defeats a 1-A?

Probably. If the 1-A lacks resistance and is 3-D physically

 

[Ogbunabali]

The High 1-B can have 1-A hax. The Numidium couldn't be beat by 1-As and has beaten 1-As.

 

[Ionliosite]

> 1-A who is physically 3-D

I don't think that's posible anymore...

 

[Ogbunabali]

Molecule Ma was 1-A at one point.

 

[The_New_God]

> 1-A who is physically 3-D
I don't think that's posible...

Look it up for a little bit, Molecule Ma used to be 1-A

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Look it up for a little bit, Molecule Ma used to be 1-A

Used to be, past tense.