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It's neat to see other people making Project Moon files, but I have noticed some quality control issues. Let's start with Distortion Detective. I'll probably pretty the pages up later, but for now this CRT will just mention stats and abilities since no thread's needed for cosmetic stuff. The pages in question are Moses, Ezra, and YuRia. It's a book, and I've got notes, so citations for anything can be provided on request.
Part 1: Moses
Statistics
Statistics
I wasn't actually aware YuRia had a profile at the time of doing my note taking, but from what I see I don't really like the citation standards it's abiding by. She's treated as a total noncombatant, unlike some other workshop people such as Yae, so I'm not really sure about the stats she's given scaling to super low grade fixers off implications which are never elaborated on or furthered. Besides that, it's of note that Yuria's workshop can't be breached by Moses' Fairy, I guess.
When making images for the verse page, just open an image editor and crop a pic to the character's upper body and use that. It's like a couple minutes of trial and error and it looks so much better than character boxes that are zoomed in on people's crotches. Don't be lazy.
Part 1: Moses
Statistics
- My suggested Attack Potency for Moses would be "9-A, varies from 9-A to 8-B with E.G.O., 8-B with Ezra's weapons." I don't think the current reasoning for Moses being a splitter is sound. The fact she used to be Captain of the Udjat means nothing when her current strength is explicitly not there anymore, and the easiest way to demonstrate this is how back then she could break Ezra's hand by squeezing it too hard while nowadays she believes certain things in Ezra's ballpark would reduce her to gore with one solid hit. Modern day Moses is a grade 5 fixer, and she demonstrates no physical feats to the contrary of such a rating. She and Ezra share weapons so often that I do support her having them as optional equipment. The loss of the 8-A will be discussed more when it comes to Ezra's scaling.
- My suggested speed is just supersonic. I wouldn't find it crazy if something like the BLACK rifle had projectile speed more in the upper echelon, but I do not believe we have any evidence to substantiate that. We know that Ezra really is just way faster than Moses and that their strategies often revolve around Ezra leveraging her superior speed and strength to set a foe up for Moses' much slower hax attacks, as noted in chapters 9 and 16. The electric distortion I don't believe supports what the page uses it for. He was puppeteering corpses and hopping from corpse to corpse at the speed of light, but the corpses themselves weren't moving that fast. Moses' guilt ensnaring them all just makes the distortion falter for a moment at which point he's killed by Vespa, and this is more because she got every single one of them at once. I guess her guilt propagates at the speed of light but that seems a bit too esoteric for attack speed.
- My suggested lifting strength is (Whatever the limbus boat calc is, it hasn't been done yet). However, in lieu of such a calc (unless I end up just doing it real quick) I think she should just be superhuman, I don't think it makes much sense to assume that her combat augs are magically going to forget that with all the weapon clashing and stuff. I think I'm fine with Class M BLACK E.G.O., but that's the kind of thing that should have a written justification. An easy thing to use to justify this is chapter 32, where her BLACK chains can restrain the amped Smiling Faces corpses which were capable of harrying Ezra and Vespa. It's also noted in Chapter 40 that when it comes to E.G.O., mental image is much more important than actual physical aptitude.
- Striking strength goes with AP. 9-A Moses, 8-B with a few weapons which tear her body apart when she uses them I guess.
- Durability wise, Moses should just be 9-A. Having her bones broken from a flailing and not exactly lucid Ezra isn't evidence of scaling, it's the opposite. We know that Fixer stamina is amazing, and I think it makes much more sense to attribute things like Moses arm being annihilated by the backlash of Ezra's gauntlet and this not taking her out to stamina rather than durability. As for the Dias arm, it depends how literally people want to take it being "one of a kind." Given who Dias is, I would not personally find it unreasonable to say the arm has 8-A durability, but a flat 8-B is much safer if that's how people want to go.
- Moses' stamina should mention some of her own feats. I've got some down on my notes, but I like the arm explosion, her impalements, and apparently not having her movement impeded by a broken back. The fact she's maimed but not killed by 8-B hits is pretty relevant when on the wiki she's usually going to be fighting people actually in her tier for once.
- Range should go out to hundreds of meters, she made a rifle.
- Getting this out of the way, we need to decide exactly how boilerplate certain resistances are supposed to be. I don't feel too strongly on this one way or the other, and could argue either side if so inclined, but we should set some standard if all the Ruina stuff is assumed to apply by default to people who are unconnected since 99% of them don't have special fancy reasons to be getting those types of resistances. If yes, then Moses and Ezra get a bunch of things ported over.
- Moses doesn't just have "likely" enhanced senses, she has access to her own distortion detecting and YuRia's night vision. Her ESP should be explained in more detail, because profiles are ideally written for people without context on the characters. You may know what "seeing the process of the Distortion phenomenon" means, but the average patron of the wiki does not.
- She should have heat manipulation via the Stigma Workshop sword, provided sharing with Ezra is accepted.
- Abilities cannot be justified by Moses being a former Udjat captain. We know she's not as strong anymore, which would mean she doesn't have the same proprietary augmentations she had at the time.
- Moses should have ice manipulation via that time she used the Koori gloves to freeze a wall solid in chapter 3.
- The BLACK damage resists don't need to be a "likely," that backlash is unambiguous.
- The fact Moses can bestow mental shielding upon her allies should be noted, but there's like four different powers the wiki could accept for that. Note her resistances are not completely contingent on this as we see from things like the distortion river and the depressed girl aquarium.
- Moses should have healing via the HP tablets. They take too long to really matter in 99% of matches, but it's still noteworthy that Ezra took one to sleep off having three arm sized holes in her body.
- Chapter 24 describes her WHITE smoke as having some sort of truth divining abilities, though I'm not sure what to classify that as.
I stared at the cigarette smoke I had just puffed out. If I had my smoking pipe, I could have used the white breath to grasp the truth of this festival and the situation a bit more easily. The pipe… And Vespa. It’s like thinking about overdue homework you procrastinated on the whole night. I walked back to the town hall.
- I believe a good way to demonstrate the abstract nature of PALE's idea of death would be a description of how it worked on the corpses which explicitly were not resurrected, and were only having their muscles manually stimulated with substitute electricity. The fact it shuts even that kind of thing off is helpful in bypassing certain forms of immortality.
- Moses should have a minor resistance to info analysis, since her pipe doesn't register as any kind of weapon.
- The PALE stuff might involve time manipulation, with Edgar's frozen state being described in chapter 40 as being on a "temporal treadwheel," but this isn't something I feel too strongly about.
- It should be noted that Moses' white mind control has bypassed a J Corp lock on a guy's brain. It wasn't the highest tier of lock, but it was certainly good enough for Moses to note whoever did it was pretty loaded.
- Moses should be a genius. She displays a high degree of proficiency in multiple fields in the line of her work, since understanding and resolving distortions tends to involve what's essentially a combination of psychoanalysis and literary analysis. She's got a good success rate and understands the distortion better than almost anyone, while also demonstrating aptitude in normal forensics in chapter 36 (and really quickly, at that.) She'd also still have the combat skills of an Udjat Captain, as we know from Vergilius' statements that skill's one of those things that doesn't just go away or get added with augments. I think professional level abilities in varied fields such as those should qualify for her, and she thinks quick on her feet even when outside her areas of expertise such as in negotiations (which are usually left to Ezra.)
- Moses should have other Ezra items and YuRia made glasses as optional equipment while she should have her Fairy, HP Tablets, first aid kit and strong painkillers as standard.
- Edgar getting out of the PALE isn't really a weakness for Moses, that's just a resistance feat for Edgar. We know it works on foes in his speed bracket, like the very robodog thing he was using as armor.
Statistics
- Ezra's AP should be "8-B, Higher with gear and partial E.G.O." The pianist comparison was misremembered, the quote doesn't really imply that the gestalt distortion and the pianist are on the same level in terms of strength. Here's what she says:
At least 3 meters in body size. Six arms. Massive muscles that look like they could burst any moment. A skeleton head. Blue flames spurting from its gaping mouth. Red eyes staring at me. The shape was complete. The creature assumes a bizarre pose.
This is a completely hostile entity.
Instinctual fear overwhelms us. YuRia grabbed my sleeves tight. Ezra’s eyes changed.
“Ezra… What we’re about to face is something completely different from anything we’ve dealt with before.”
“Yes, detective!”
Ezra puts her dimensional bag on the floor.
“YuRia, observe me to your heart’s content.”
“Of course I will~”
I held my pipe between my lips.
I closed my eyes, and began breathing in…
This Distortion has the same scent as ‘The Pianist’.
A Distortion dedicated to slaughtering people…
One moment of carelessness means death.
Yet I am beginning to feel excited.…
I suppose this old habit will die hard.
This is a completely hostile entity.
Instinctual fear overwhelms us. YuRia grabbed my sleeves tight. Ezra’s eyes changed.
“Ezra… What we’re about to face is something completely different from anything we’ve dealt with before.”
“Yes, detective!”
Ezra puts her dimensional bag on the floor.
“YuRia, observe me to your heart’s content.”
“Of course I will~”
I held my pipe between my lips.
I closed my eyes, and began breathing in…
This Distortion has the same scent as ‘The Pianist’.
A Distortion dedicated to slaughtering people…
One moment of carelessness means death.
Yet I am beginning to feel excited.…
I suppose this old habit will die hard.
- The comparison seems to be much more in terms of the distortion's type than the distortion's strength. Given the Pianist was considered the worst distortion ever pre Phillip (they didn't know Elena was one, and her kill count is lower regardless) I don't think we really have backing to assume that this early experiment was such a slam dunk that it was equal to something that important.
- As for Ezra's "higher," it should be noted that her gravity gauntlets have allowed her to punch straight through the head of bears which just before had matched her strength, and that her axe chopped off three arms from the gestalt distortion at once (which was a foe that was actually a bit stronger than her). Partial EGO let her fight on par with Vespa and she actually seemed even stronger than him, given her ability to snap his arm and the moment against smiling face corpses where she had an easier time taking them out than Vespa. Vespa himself was chopping through legions of Ezra tier bears and was gonna kill 17 Soldatos, so it's quite a strong "higher."
- I don't think Ezra needs a 9-A end. She's a grade 3 fixer, yes, but that's a rule of thumb and actual showings take precedence. Ezra is identified as being unusually strong even for what she is, being able to survive a tussle with Vespa pre-E.G.O., consistently being portrayed as extremely beyond Moses physically and fighting foes Moses says would instagib her despite her stamina, and one-shotting Thumb Soldatos if she can get a solid hit (with her arms broken, no less). She's just 8-B flat out.
- Speed wise, I think Ezra's just straight up comparable to Vespa. He's faster, but not to an absurd degree. Allas gauntlets jacked her hand speed up 5x, and in chapter 19 it's noted she jacked her acceleration up to 10x for her jump kick on Vespa. Speedy girl.
- Durability should match her AP.
- Ezra's stamina should mention some of her own feats, because they're some of the best we've got. She gets hit by four charged attacks at once without missing a step, then she gets impaled by three arms from a giant bigger than she is and doesn't slow down at all, then those arms vanish and she's just got huge holes gushing blood and this isn't treated as a concern. Moses says she's bandaging that up just to be extra safe, and that Ezra is in general not threatened by injuries at all. She also has her fight with Vespa, once he starts stabbing her, where Moses says she'll die if this keeps up but there's no degradation within the fighting itself. Also fighting after having her arms broken by Edgar.
- I did not find anything which justifies the exoskeleton range of several meters.
- Same resistances question as Moses.
- Ezra's ability to see through Moses' smoke should be noted under enhanced senses.
- Ezra's healing should note the HP tablets.
- Ezra's threat assessment might break into information analysis, given the time she'd only really seen a glance of Vespa and quickly appraised that she wouldn't be able to take him.
- Ezra should be gifted, intelligence wise. Her intellectual strong suits include financials, contract creation and negotiation, threat evaluation, and her knowledge on weapons and workshops of the city. She's a skilled combatant, giving her managing to match up with Vespa when she's got her strength buff, and she's had Udjat training of her own. Her silly personality doesn't actually mean she's dumb and she pretty much says that it's a coping mechanism for her trauma from the Smoke War.
- While technically in the vein of cosmetic stuff I don't need a CRT for, I'd definitely like to improve the way her equipment is set up. The profile should mention relevant but unintuitive things like her bag's voice commands or the fact she can stack multiple pairs of gauntlets at once somehow.
- It's not true that Ezra cannot manifest partial EGO at all without Yuria's pendants, as can be seen against the Smiling Faces corpses. Moses surmises that Ezra has an easier time manifesting it in defense of herself, or involuntarily.
I wasn't actually aware YuRia had a profile at the time of doing my note taking, but from what I see I don't really like the citation standards it's abiding by. She's treated as a total noncombatant, unlike some other workshop people such as Yae, so I'm not really sure about the stats she's given scaling to super low grade fixers off implications which are never elaborated on or furthered. Besides that, it's of note that Yuria's workshop can't be breached by Moses' Fairy, I guess.
When making images for the verse page, just open an image editor and crop a pic to the character's upper body and use that. It's like a couple minutes of trial and error and it looks so much better than character boxes that are zoomed in on people's crotches. Don't be lazy.
