Darkest Knight fights another Joker

[Pizzabox492]

Joker fights Darkest Knight

Speed Equalized

True end game key is used, Joker has Satanael as his main persona but can use other personas if needed

1-A vs 1-A

Both in character

 

[It_is_i_wyatt]

link the profiles, ive no idea who the darkest knight is

 

[Pizzabox492]

link the profiles, ive no idea who the darkest knight is

sorry

 

[Pizzabox492]

bump

 

[Lukewoesal007]

1. How many layers into 1-A is The Darkest Knight? True Endgame Ren scales to six or seven layers above baseline.

2. What can Darkest Knight do against Ren's 1-A Soul/Mind/Info/Concept attacks?

 

[Pizzabox492]

1. How many layers into 1-A is The Darkest Knight? True Endgame Ren scales to six or seven layers above baseline.

2. What can Darkest Knight do against Ren's 1-A Soul/Mind/Info/Concept attacks?

1. "True Endgame Ren scales to six or seven layers above baseline." What do you mean by this?

2. I'm guessing sealing or power nullification, does Joker resist these?

What do you mean Soul/Info/Concept attacks? Why are they 1-A and where does it say in game they attack the Soul/Info/Concept? I'm still learning SMT/Persona

 

[Lukewoesal007]

"True Endgame Ren scales to six or seven layers above baseline." What do you mean by this?

I'm referring to ontological layers, which essentially function as higher dimensions (i.e. someone who is two layers above baseline completely stomps a character who is only one layer above baseline and is completely immune to abilities that aren't of the same level of reality.)

2. I'm guessing sealing or power nullification

Ren resists both on a 1-A level (in this key) through his resistance to Cognition.

what do you mean Soul/Info/Concept attacks? Why are they 1-A and where does it say in game they attack the Soul/Info/Concept?

Ren is capable of attacking Demons/Shadows, which are beings comprised purely of "Information" --a substance that is synonymous with human minds, which are souls and contain Type 1 concepts. Demons/Shadows are able to maintain themselves in the Atziluth, a 1-A realm that dissolves the mind/soul into and assimilate them across the multiverse, yet they are able to kill each other with their attacks.

 

[Pizzabox492]

I'm referring to ontological layers, which essentially function as higher dimensions (i.e. someone who is two layers above baseline completely stomps a character who is only one layer above baseline and is completely immune to abilities that aren't of the same level of reality.)


Ren resists both on a 1-A level (in this key) through his resistance to Cognition.


Ren is capable of attacking Demons/Shadows, which are beings comprised purely of "Information" --a substance that is synonymous with human minds, which are souls and contain Type 1 concepts. Demons/Shadows are able to maintain themselves in the Atziluth, a 1-A realm that dissolves the mind/soul into and assimilate them across the multiverse, yet they are able to kill each other with their attacks.

1. Why is Joker such a high dimensional being?

2. Then I'm not exactly sure what Darkest Knight can do then because Joker seems to resist most of his stuff

3. "Demon/Shadows are able to maintain themselves in the Atziluth" Where does this happen?

 

[Lukewoesal007]

1. Why is Joker such a high dimensional being?

He's able to summon higher-dimensional entities as Personas (which he inherits the abilities of) and can fight against them as well.

3. "Demon/Shadows are able to maintain themselves in the Atziluth" Where does this happen?

From Cognitive Physiology:

• Mind Manipulation, Empathic Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Fusionism, Absorption, Existence Erasure, and Void Manipulation: Demons naturally exist in the Expanse, a higher-dimensional realm that transcends past, present, and future[15], which formed of Magnetite, in which even a jar of it can erode one's mind[5]. The Expanse also swallows and consumes[12] all that comes in contact with it, including the universe itself[12]. They are also capable of maintaining their own existence in the Collective Unconscious[21], where the concept of the ego does not exist and all self-identity[22] dissolves into oneness[38].

From Ren's Page:

Existence Erasure, Information Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Fusionism and Memory Manipulation (Simply having the potential to awaken a Persona grants one a will firm enough to maintain their own existence and individuality in the unconscious world, where the concept of the ego does not exist and all individuality dissolves into oneness, with ordinary people being immediately overwhelmed by the nothingness and scattered throughout all possible worlds by stepping into it)

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

You keep on making stomps

 

[Lukewoesal007]

This does seem like a stomp, unfortunately.

 

[Eseseso]

How is this a stomp?

 

[Lukewoesal007]

How is this a stomp?

Darkest Knight has no way of dealing with most of Joker's hax, and Joker resists the majority of DK's abilities.