"Crowbars Up!" Going in 2025 - Home Alone (Wet Bandits Rework)

[ShionAH]

Better late then never right?

New Profile, changes are listed down

• Type 2 (Marv was able to keep screaming after being reduced to a skeleton)
• Type 3 & Regeneration (High-Mid - Marv was able to regenerate from his skeleton instantaneously)
• Heat
• Small Building level with weapons (They can hurt eachother with their crowbars)
• Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver and Colt Police Positive
• Rename it to "Wet Bandits" rather than "Harry and Marv"
• Kevin becomes 9-A with Prep, Idk why he wasnt yet since he literally has a 9-A feat

Agree:
Disagree:
Neutral:

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[TWILIGHT-OP]

New Profile

Get that statistical values above discussion template and rest of the stuff looks good.

• Type 2 (Marv was able to keep screaming after being reduced to a skeleton)
• Type 3 & Regeneration (High-Mid - Marv was able to regenerate from his skeleton instantaneously)
• Heat

Look fine

• Small Building level with weapons (They can hurt eachother with their crowbars)
• Smith & Wesson Model 10 Revolver and Colt Police Positive

I don't see it how it can be 9-A, at most it's 9-B with prep

• Rename it to "Wet Bandits" rather than "Harry and Marv"

Sure after you implement the changes.

• Kevin becomes 9-A with Prep, Idk why he wasnt yet since he literally has a 9-A feat

Again At most 9-B with prep

 

[ShionAH]

I don't see it how it can be 9-A

Wdym? Their crowbars can hurt themselves and their durability is 9-A

Or do we consider that as an outlier or smth?

Also can you ping a staff member, its pretty simple crt

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

Their crowbars can hurt themselves and their durability is 9-A

Missed durability, should be fine then.

Also can you ping a staff member,

Sry for the ping btw @DarkDragonMedeus @GarrixianXD @Nierre

 

[Arceus0x]

Completely disagree with this. Does nobody see it? It's clearly just an attempt to recreate the classic "skeleton XRAY when cartoon character is electrocuted" effect but with practical effects.
Let me ask you this, is it more realistic that
a) Marv somehow burned down to a skeleton, without anything showing us that he is burning or turning to ash, with his clothes and hair intact, and then, whilst still being electrocuted, he somehow regenerated his entire body, in a world where NOTHING supernatural happens beyond the bandits surviving a few hits that a normal human wouldn't
b) Marv got electrocuted, they showed a funny effect which disappeared in the next few seconds and that was that.

Fellas. This is a movie set in a realistic setting. Harry and Marv get severely hurt by things like heat and sharp objects, Harry still walking around with the "M" brand on his hand. Do you seriously expect me to believe that Marv and SPECIFICALLY Marv has this supernatural regeneration where he can somehow completelty regenerate his flesh completely? No, absolutely not. This isn't Tom & Jerry. It is a goofy and somewhat unrealistic movie but this is NOT a movie where a man can survive his flesh being seared off.

 

[Arceus0x]

I also kinda find 9-A to be very questionable. Like cool, the gasoline burning up would be 9-A...except it didn't even propery destroy the toilet where it happened, just shattered it, something that can be done with the average firecracker. Please don't forget that a 9-A explosion would basically pulverize the toilet and likely the walls around it and instead it basically does no significant damage...
Actually looking closer now...it didn't even break the toilet. 9-A my ass this shit isn't even firecracker tier.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I also kinda find 9-A to be very questionable. Like cool, the gasoline burning up would be 9-A...except it didn't even propery destroy the toilet where it happened, just shattered it, something that can be done with the average firecracker. Please don't forget that a 9-A explosion would basically pulverize the toilet and likely the walls around it and instead it basically does no significant damage...
Actually looking closer now...it didn't even break the toilet. 9-A my ass this shit isn't even firecracker tier.

Yeah I was thinking same that's why I said it was atmost 9-B with prep, but then durability calculation should be outlier or what?

 

[Arceus0x]

Oh and let's not forget the superhuman stamina. People irl have crawled through forests for 18 days despite having their legs obliterated. Harry and Marv fell for traps for a few minutes, barely got themselves together to catch a kid. This isn't Superhuman.

 

[Arceus0x]

Yeah I was thinking same that's why I said it was almost 9-B with prep, but then durability calculation should be outlier or what?

It should be. The calculation is acceptable but the fact that it didn't destroy anything, even the toilet the 9-A feat supposedly happened in, is nonsense.

Also what do you think about the regen now that I've addressed it?

 

[Arceus0x]

As for the resistances, I think at most a "limited resistance to heat and electricity" since they did survive a few things that on average would damage you more permanently

 

[ShionAH]

Completely disagree with this. Does nobody see it? It's clearly just an attempt to recreate the classic "skeleton XRAY when cartoon character is electrocuted" effect but with practical effects.

Whats ur proof on that though? Since his skeleton stops showing even though Kevin makes it higher voltage

 

[Arceus0x]

Whats ur proof on that though? Since his skeleton stops showing even though Kevin makes it higher voltage

My proof is called Occam's razor. It is more simple to believe it is the super-classic effect of electricity XRAY than a man who had an iron imprint on his face throughout the ending of HA1, who could barely walk after the nail in the foot thing ect., all happening in a moslty realistic setting, suddenly has the ability to regenerate HIS ENTIRE MFING FLESH AND NERVES AND ORGANS.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

I was a kid when I watched HA so I have very less recollection of this show, but arceus0x points seems valid to me.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Some of the links look broken; particularly the skeleton justifications. Also, since when is simply regenerating all your flesh and blood High-Mid? You do realize High-Mid is regenerating your entire from just a small piece of your body that isn't a brain. And Mid regeneration is regenerating the entire brain and/or regenerating from just the brain. I see this as Low-Mid at best.

Also, after scrolling down; I agree with basically everything Arceus said. I don't think that being electrocuted and your skeleton appearing briefly is regeneration and just a gag. And combustions feats may generate 9-A levels of thermal energy, but that does not translate to 9-B levels of overpressure. It's more or less the same reason everyone produces 9-B levels of thermal energy every time they empty their bladder or bowels, but clearly is only 10-C levels of overpressure to piss or shit. Or how blowing up planes often generate 8-B levels of thermal energy, but is effectively only 9-B at best levels of overpressure.

 

[ShionAH]

Oh and let's not forget the superhuman stamina. People irl have crawled through forests for 18 days despite having their legs obliterated. Harry and Marv fell for traps for a few minutes, barely got themselves together to catch a kid. This isn't Superhuman.

What the hell? You do know Harry and Marv fall through like 3 stories face first several times in the movie right? They get crushed by heavy objects, burned and blown up and Marv at one point literally gets a 50 kg weight from two stories up fall on top of his head at the right angle to break his neck.

No human is going through those punishment and continuing like nothing.

I can remove the regen and stuff but otherwise Idk why we are removing the 9-A. Harry took that face first

 

[Arceus0x]

What the hell? You do know Harry and Marv fall through like 3 stories face first several times in the movie right? They get crushed by heavy objects, burned and blown up and Marv at one point literally gets a 50 kg weight from two stories up fall on top of his head at the right angle to break his neck.

No human is going through those punishment and continuing like nothing.

That's the thing, all you suggest here is a higher tier of durability. Not 9-A but somewhere along 9-C+ or so. If it WAS realistic they'd be bleeding out of every orifice by the first few traps. Since they weren't, but rather were roughed up to an extent, them moving despite all that wouldn't be a stamina feat, much less a superhuman stamina feat. If being able to survive stuff people die to was enough for stamina then every character above 9-B should have superhuman stamina. Since that would be idiotic, it means the feat ain't going through.

I can remove the regen and stuff but otherwise Idk why we are removing the 9-A. Harry took that face first

Because the feat doesn't work. Simple as that. First there's what DDM mentioned and then there's the fact that the "9-A" explosion didn't even break the toilet it happened in something the average firecracker would do with ease. This means it's inconsistent and thus unsuable, especially considering the bandits were hurt by things that scale to 9-C constantly throughout the movie. 1 9-A feat shouldn't determine the scaling when the rest of the feats are baseline 9-B at most in potency.

 

[ShionAH]

Welp I guess they are not getting the rework, sad times

I'll ask this to be closed

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Will do