Azure Lion (LMK) vs Lloyd (Ninjago) [5-5-0]

[Lloydblitzed]

Let's forget what happened the other day with Kai and Sukuna

Mad Lion vs 10 years old god
Rules:

• Ultimate Spinjitzu Master key is used for Lloyd
• Jade Emperor key is used for Azure
• Azure has access to the Scroll of Memories
• Speed is equalized
• SBA for the rest
• Starting distance: 20 m
• Values:
  Azure scales to 200+ Universes into 2-C
  Lloyd scales to 17 Universes into 2-C

Azure wipes: @JJSliderman @Woomica @Artorimachi_Meteoraft @Not_Icarus @Arency
Lloyd wipes: @TheOrangeGuy09 @AigerTheKing @REX9097 @MintyBoi1 @Celestial_Scaler25
Incon/Aura loss matchup:

 

[AigerTheKing]

I can see Lloyd summoning his Golden Dragon and just blasting Azure, which would damage his Soul

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I can see Lloyd summoning his Golden Dragon and just blasting Azure, which would damage his Soul

Azure becomes giant and crushes him to death🗣

 

[AigerTheKing]

Azure becomes giant and crushes him to death🗣

Can't he just evade that by using his smoke element and dodge his attacks

 

[Woomica]

Aight im lazy to read lloyd profile,but how can he defend againdt Azure BFR,Danmaku and gigantic AP difference of 200 universes,and can he one shot lloyd with vibration manipulation?

 

[AigerTheKing]

Aight im lazy to read lloyd profile,but how can he defend againdt Azure BFR,Danmaku and gigantic AP difference of 200 universes,and can he one shot lloyd with vibration manipulation?

Lloyd has far higher LS and can restrain him via telekinesis with the Element of Gravity, and he can also defend himself with Time Stop and Sealing

 

[Woomica]

Lloyd has far higher LS and can restrain him via telekinesis with the Element of Gravity, and he can also defend himself with Time Stop and Sealing

Okay thats better,can he incap him for 24h or dura neg him to death?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Aight im lazy to read lloyd profile,but how can he defend againdt Azure BFR,Danmaku and gigantic AP difference of 200 universes,and can he one shot lloyd with vibration manipulation?

Vibration manip can one shot Lloyd indeed

Lloyd has far higher LS and can restrain him via telekinesis with the Element of Gravity, and he can also defend himself with Time Stop and Sealing

What will he do if Azure summons everyone he trapped inside the scroll and use it against him

 

[AigerTheKing]

Okay thats better,can he incap him for 24h or dura neg him to death?

I think he can dura neg to death via his Mind Manipulation, otherwise he can seal for weeks like he did to Overlord

What will he do if Azure summons everyone he trapped inside the scroll and use it against him

Could be a problem for him, unless he restrains them as well or purifies those souls

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Could be a problem for him, unless he restrains them as well

Will be hard to pull out if he summons all the prisonners (hundreads of them)

or purifies those souls

Ye that could work

 

[AigerTheKing]

First time Im not going against Ninjago straight away

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Azure could also hit Lloyd with a scroll and corrupt him

 

[AigerTheKing]

Lloyd resist corruption, and he could technically break the scroll too, since according to Wukong's page, it scales to 4 Universes only

The Samadhi Fire would scale to at least hundreds of Universes, as its capable of destroying the Scroll of Memories, who force its prisonners to relive the worst parts of their past lives again forever, in the form of reality warped fake versions of the 4 Universes sized Multiverse, composed of the Celestial Realm, the Mortal Realm and Li Jing's prison. Those scrolls were shown to go by the hundreds)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Lloyd resist corruption, and he could technically break the scroll too, since according to Wukong's page, it scales to 4 Universes only

even so, he could spam multiple at him and one shot, but ye I think his time hax will help him out

 

[JJSliderman]

Lloyd gets one-shot, and using the powers of all the other elemental masters is super ooc.

 

[AigerTheKing]

I agree that most of Lloyd's physical abilities wouldn't work against Azure, and yes his size manipulation would be trouble. However, he would still be able to incapacitate him via Sealing, or use Existance Erasure against him and completly annahilate him
Let's not forget he can directly damage Azure's soul with physical attack

• Soul Manipulation (was able to directly attack and defeat the Overlord when he was inside of Garmadon's body, without destroying the latter)

Altought Azure could easily spam his clones against Lloyd, the kid should be able to counter it by purifing them all too. I think his hax overall would help him win the fight

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Lloyd gets one-shot, and using the powers of all the other elemental masters is super ooc.

I gave them access to everything, even ooc ones so it would be cooler (and honestly more fair for both)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

However, he would still be able to incapacitate him via Sealing

Azure can create distance via Danmaku, as Im pretty sure using Sealing would force Lloyd to create physical contact between them

Let's not forget he can directly damage Azure's soul with physical attack

Throwing physical punches is just a death sentence for Lloyd

 

[AigerTheKing]

Azure can create distance via Danmaku, as Im pretty sure using Sealing would force Lloyd to create physical contact between them

EE + Telekinesis and its GGs for him. Also, can't Lloyd make himself faster via Spinjitzu?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Also, can't Lloyd make himself faster via Spinjitzu?

Ngl forgot he could do that

Still leaning towards Azure personally but let's stay unbiased

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Lloyd gets one-shot, and using the powers of all the other elemental masters is super ooc.

So ur voting Azure I assume?

Edit: ye that's pretty much a vote for Azure

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

How do Azure’s Sealing and Fear Manipulation work? Biological Manipulation and Corruption really should be put under his Sealing since it works only to those who are inside the Scroll of Memories

 

[Lloydblitzed]

How do Azure’s Sealing and Fear Manipulation work? Biological Manipulation and Corruption really should be put under his Sealing since it works only to those who are inside the Scroll of Memories

He had to touch someone with his scroll to seal him, and that touch will also apply the Biological Manipulation and Corruption. Fear hax works like sum kind of pressure against other beings

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

He had to touch someone with his scroll to seal him, and that touch will also apply the Biological Manipulation and Corruption. Fear hax works like sum kind of pressure against other beings

Ngl both of them are NBD
Lloyd has many-many defensive elements to bypass that, like transforming into Smoke or Shadow as well as speed advantage via Speed Boost
He can literally destroy Azaru via CM, other wincons also include Time Manip, Age Manip and Soul Manip

I would even say it is a stomp in Lloyd’s favor since Azuru has, uh, lemme check, 0 ways to defeat Lloyd given the loadshit of hax of the latter.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Ngl both of them are NBD
Lloyd has many-many defensive elements to bypass that, like transforming into Smoke or Shadow as well as speed advantage via Speed Boost
He can literally destroy Azaru via CM, other wincons also include Time Manip, Age Manip and Soul Manip

I would even say it is a stomp in Lloyd’s favor since Azuru has, uh, lemme check, 0 ways to defeat Lloyd given the loadshit of hax of the latter.

Would this fight be more fair if I restrict to In-character moves only?

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Would this fight be more fair if I restrict to In-character moves only?

Yes
Also asking in advance: what does Azuru do in-character?

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yes
Also asking in advance: what does Azuru do in-character?

everything listed on his profile except these

• Pocket Reality Manipulation (Possess the powers of the Yellow Color Stone, which allows him to control the Mortal Realm and the Celestial Realm)
• Reality Warping and Space-Time Manipulation (The power of the Yellow Color Stone can fix cracks in reality)
• Breath Attack and Energy Manipulation
• Fear Manipulation
  • Teleportation (Could teleport himself from the Celestial Realm to the Mortal Realm)

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Alright my opinion really is that:

• Lloyd starts with physical attacks and sees that Azure is unaffected thus far superior physically
• As long as Azure pulls up evil clones, Lloyd simply purifies them (it’s in character for him as we see in S3)
• Lloyd dodges Azure’s attacks due to being more agile, he could also use Forcefield and stuff
• Eventually Lloyd realizes he can’t kill Azure by his energy blasts, so he simply nukes him with Soul Manipulation

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Alright my opinion really is that:

• Lloyd starts with physical attacks and sees that Azure is unaffected thus far superior physically
• As long as Azure pulls up evil clones, Lloyd simply purifies them (it’s in character for him as we see in S3)
• Lloyd dodges Azure’s attacks due to being more agile, he could also use Forcefield and stuff
• Eventually Lloyd realizes he can’t kill Azure by his energy blasts, so he simply nukes him with Soul Manipulation

Forcefield wouldn't work due to Azure's higher AP which would pierce throught it, but I agree with the other points now

 

[TheOrangeGuy09]

Forcefield wouldn't work due to Azure's higher AP which would pierce throught it

I was thinking about it more being one-use block. Also, seeing how easily his forcefields are broken would make it even more easier for Lloyd to come to conclusion that there is no way to surpass Azure physically, which will lead to easy Soul hax.

Anyway voting Harumi simp FRA.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I was thinking about it more being one-use block. Also, seeing how easily his forcefields are broken would make it even more easier for Lloyd to come to conclusion that there is no way to surpass Azure physically, which will lead to easy Soul hax.

Anyway voting Harumi simp FRA.

Alright, counted

 

[Woomica]

Based off the current arguments,and the fact that azure also has one shot via vibration manip and huge AP Im voting for Azure

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Counted (Yay a close matchup with Ninjago that doesn't end on 7-0)

 

[AigerTheKing]

Not to mention Lloyd can use Spinjitzu to amplify his speed and block Azure's moves. For Orange's reasons, Im going for Lloyd

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Not to mention Lloyd can use Spinjitzu to amplify his speed and block Azure's moves.

Azure has higher AP. Lloyd can dodge sure, but not block his move without dying

For Orange's reasons, Im going for Lloyd

Counted

 

[Arency]

Alright my opinion really is that:

• Lloyd starts with physical attacks and sees that Azure is unaffected thus far superior physically
• As long as Azure pulls up evil clones, Lloyd simply purifies them (it’s in character for him as we see in S3)
• Lloyd dodges Azure’s attacks due to being more agile, he could also use Forcefield and stuff
• Eventually Lloyd realizes he can’t kill Azure by his energy blasts, so he simply nukes him with Soul Manipulation

Physical attacks possibly won't work agaisn't Azure as he can use the scroll on someone he grab (In particular while he's bigger), but as I know Lloyd as his teen, he's kinda overconfident so he won't waste anytime to use something OP like time hax on him. Also talking about it, why didn't Lloyd used any time haxs agaisn't Overlord as he haven't showed that he can resists agaisn't it?

 

[AigerTheKing]

Physical attacks possibly won't work agaisn't Azure as he can use the scroll on someone he grab (In particular while he's bigger), but as I know Lloyd as his teen, he's kinda overconfident so he won't waste anytime to use something OP like time hax on him.

He can keep harming his soul regardless which Azure cannot resist

Also talking about it, why didn't Lloyd used any time haxs agaisn't Overlord as he haven't showed that he can resists agaisn't it?

OP restricted both Lloyd and Azure to in-characters moves only already

 

[AigerTheKing]

Also, I've explained why his BFR ability won't work

Lloyd resist corruption, and he could technically break the scroll too, since according to Wukong's page, it scales to 4 Universes only

The Samadhi Fire would scale to at least hundreds of Universes, as its capable of destroying the Scroll of Memories, who force its prisonners to relive the worst parts of their past lives again forever, in the form of reality warped fake versions of the 4 Universes sized Multiverse, composed of the Celestial Realm, the Mortal Realm and Li Jing's prison. Those scrolls were shown to go by the hundreds)

 

[Lloydblitzed]

but as I know Lloyd as his teen, he's kinda overconfident so he won't waste anytime to use something OP like time hax on him.

Tbf his Purification and Soul hax are his most in character moves from the little we have seen of USM Lloyd. He won't use Time hax cuz its out of character for him

 

[Arency]

Also, I've explained why his BFR ability won't work

Actually no, it's been shown that everyone can be BFR'd by the scroll, even Wukong who scale to 200+ universes asw got BFR'd.