Atsuta Yukihito ability ability additions

[DontTalkDT]

In a recent thread, people said Atsuta should have more P&As for the abilities that are currently explained in the notable A/T-section.

Personally, I found Atsuta's abilities hard to rank and hence kept the P&A rather minimalistic and instead added detailed explanations further down. But people tend to have a problem with accepting information not indicated in the P&A section, so let's do some additions.

The abilities of these two weapons in particular should be classified:

Futsuno: Futsuno is the greatest sword in 2nd Gear and its name means as much as "The cutting Soul". Within 2nd Gears concepts Futsuno is able to cut through anything. This doesn't just mean all physical objects, but even through immaterial things. It can for example cut through heat so that the user isn't burned, cut through moonlight to create darkness or even cut through misfortune so that attacks directed against the user change their path to miss him. Aside from that a light swing of Futsuno can create great shockwaves obliterating a 200 meter square area.

This is currently just listed as "can cut through anything".

Kusanagi: A prototype weapon made by Akio Kashima that upon its completion is supposed to surpass even Futsuno. In its current state the weapon might break after its power is used 5 times. Kusanagi's power is to induce fear. Upon its activation a tremor can be felt caused by the earth and air trembling in fear of the blades power. When Kusanagi is swung the sword emits its "gaze" from the blade, instead of cutting power like with a normal concept weapon. This gaze intimidates the world into becoming a sword in itself, whether it is air, earth, sound, light or space itself. This way all in the swords gaze becomes its cutting power. The sword in essence induces so much fear that the world cuts itself using its own power.

This is currently just listed as "Fear Manipulation".

So which other abilities should be added for those weapons?

 

[Arkenis]

u have scans or chapters for where i can read where his abilities more

 

[DontTalkDT]

Kawakami stuff is always written long so you will have some reading to do if you want to go that path. But sure I will name the chapters as closely as possible. You can probably find them easily with Google.

Kusanagi stuff is almost all explained in Owari no Chronicle 6-A (that is Volume 12) Chapter 19.
Futsuno is explained primarily in Owari no Chronicle 2-B (that is Volume 4) Chapter Chapter 26.
For the latter let me be even more specific: Start reading about at "A joyful smile appeared on the corner of his mouth." and stop at "With that said, Atsuta moved back."
That should cover most relevant stuff.

 

[Arkenis]

Fear Manipulation based Spatial Manipulation, and Non-Physical Interaction

Should have damage reduction

Should have stats amp

Probability Manipulation

Can just make things that would have hit not hit and miss by swinging the path they travel towards him.

 

[Arkenis]

also if the concept stuff is like true and is acutally concept based then it could be conceptual based spatial cutting

 

[DontTalkDT]

Fear Manipulation based Spatial Manipulation, and Non-Physical Interaction

Wouldn't that be like saying "animal manipulation via scaring animals", though? Like, he technically doesn't affect space other than that he scares it. Space does the other work itself.

NPI makes sense for Futsuno, though, as you said before.

Should have damage reduction

Nah, that's just magical armor basically. Goes into durability.

Should have stats amp

Nah, just Superhuman Physical Characteristics. He is always that fast.

Probability Manipulation

Can just make things that would have hit not hit and miss by swinging the path they travel towards him.

Wouldn't that go more for fate manipulation? Probability would imply that there was a chance for those attacks to behave that way even without Atsuta's influence. But that's clearly not the case.

also if the concept stuff is like true and is acutally concept based then it could be conceptual based spatial cutting

It is concept related, but you can't really call it conceptual as it doesn't affect concepts or anything like that. It would be like saying gravity manipulation is "law manipulation based" because you make use of the existence of the law of gravitation for gravity to be possible.

 

[Arkenis]

Wouldn't that be like saying "animal manipulation via scaring animals", though? Like, he technically doesn't affect space other than that he scares it. Space does the other work itself.

The analogy isn't the same here since we're working with something much more abstract and intangible. You can't normally scare space itself like you can an animal via just being scary, but the blade's power here is capable of intimdating space and causing it's power to be sent to where it swings via making space become a sword itself.

Wouldn't that go more for fate manipulation? Probability would imply that there was a chance for those attacks to behave that way even without Atsuta's influence. But that's clearly not the case.

Nah I don't think so. Fate manipulation would probably need more statements for that to be considered tbh. And also the rock could've fell somewhere via him pushing it away regularly or him dodging it but he just outright makes it fall somewhere.

 

[DontTalkDT]

The analogy isn't the same here since we're working with something much more abstract and intangible. You can't normally scare space itself like you can an animal via just being scary, but the blade's power here is capable of intimdating space and causing it's power to be sent to where it swings via making space become a sword itself.

If we go that route wouldn't it have to be matter and energy manipulation, too, as it can scare those things as well?

Nah I don't think so. Fate manipulation would probably need more statements for that to be considered tbh. And also the rock could've fell somewhere via him pushing it away regularly or him dodging it but he just outright makes it fall somewhere.

I don't think that's accurate. The rock straight up moved on its own to avoid him. That goes beyond just probability, as it straight up makes something happen that had no chance of happening naturally.

Fate is really better suited for this, as it covers a wider range of mechanisms. Fate can be probability for instance, but it can also cover cases that go further, like this.

 

[Arkenis]

If we go that route wouldn't it have to be matter and energy manipulation, too, as it can scare those things as well?

Would those not be effected by spatial manip? Say someone fires a energy blast at him and he cuts in that direction, the space it occupies would be effected and therefore the energy would too.

Fate is really better suited for this, as it covers a wider range of mechanisms. Fate can be probability for instance, but it can also cover cases that go further, like this.

Well that sounds fine to me.

 

[DontTalkDT]

Would those not be effected by spatial manip? Say someone fires a energy blast at him and he cuts in that direction, the space it occupies would be effected and therefore the energy would too.

Theoretically yes, but it scares air, earth, sound and light as well, not just space. So while the end result might be the same, those things are equally affected. It's not just the space that cuts itself, but all other things in Kusanagi's gaze as well.

If Kusanagi had truly activated…

…Everything along the line of its gaze would have transformed into cutting power as I swung Kusanagi.

This Cowling Sword could only be wielded by a sword god and it manifested itself in accordance with that sword god’s will.

…This isn’t cutting with the power of a concept. It’s more like cutting with your own gaze.

He was now directly connected with a blade that could cut through even a dragon.

 

[Arkenis]

Theoretically yes, but it scares air, earth, sound and light as well, not just space. So while the end result might be the same, those things are equally affected. It's not just the space that cuts itself, but all other things in Kusanagi's gaze as well.

I don't think those are things the sword scares, it doesn't even say it scares those. Those things are brought up to note that nothing in his way can stop the effects of the sword because of how it works. "Instead of sending a cutting power along the path of its gaze, it brought its own presence there."