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Ashurasaurus Tier?

Primaris_Brian

Primaris_Brian

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Currently Ashurasaurus was rated as Large Star via made Neo Acacia scream in pain from an attack and has a capture level of 4990, 83% the capture level of sealed Bambina. Well here is the problem with those reasoning:

First at that time acacia had to seal neo(put him to sleep) and put most of his power to create backchannel to match the deer king backchannel:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-uu8Ni9oPq...bZNM/7vOXy6z2BI4/w1900/MR-21245-780596-12.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rJD-oHNGa...bZL0/uyQEcM09wSA/w1900/MR-21245-780596-16.jpg

He is not nearly at full power especially he has been reduced from this to this by the deer king backchannel, he is literally starving and thirsty due to been exposed to the deer king backchannel for a moment before he activated his own backchannel to counter it.

And Second, Capture level cannot accurately measure someone power level as even a piece of neo/acacia who got one shots by the rest of the kings(except for sealed bambina as he playing with it instead of fighting him) is still manage to easily kill 100 beast with capture level of 4000:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y9NiHtd_i...B6Rjg/XiYVxtIgnww/w1900/MR-21245-699079-8.jpg

So my request is either downgrade him to star level as he can still hurt weakened/starving neo/acacia and with the help of several similarly powerful beasts they actually Kill him for a moment and for comparison 4-C Don Slime can still hurting healthy neo/acacia, albeit neo/acacia actually not considering him as threat and easily beat him, or just put him to Unknown as I not sure from who he should be scaled, but the justification for his current tier is seems wrong for me.
 
Actually I ask the summary not ant approval, anyway:

Also the entire chapter 357clearly shows that it was Base Neowho consumed the entire blue universe not True Form Neo.

Anyway it has been repeatedly stated by the Nitro that at that time neo/acacia si not at his prime when he still on his rampage on the blue universe, Im going to search for the scans.
 
Neo is always evolve just like everything else in the series, there will be no actual final true form as neo still powering up and evolve after acacia eat the eight kings.
 
His current Tier is already generous enough as His universal food claim has been debunked by the Space Taipan, and give the exact same solid Tier to Ashurasaurus who need to corporate with severalls beasts in order to barely beat weakened/starving Acacia where Acacia himself still need to seal part of neo and use the remaining of his power to maintain the backchannel is far too generous.
 
Base Neo consumed the entire blue universe including all of it's beasts and ingredients making him it's apex predator. The blue universe > the red universe hence Neo is it's apex predator too. So it's clear that it was refering to base Neo.
 
Yep it dont, unless when there are ridiculous different on their CL and space taipan is not ingredient to begin with and his description indicates it has absurd CL due to his power, Im gonna ask sin for that as he is the one who bring the scan.
 
The same with the 8K CL as it come from the extra first and then it been revealed in the manga later, which something cant be done for taipan as toriko has already ending. and it 100% accurate as they have the same CL.
 
DocAnimeTheory said:
The capture level for the Space Taipan isn't even canon since it wasn't in the manga. It's from an extra included in volume 45.
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wasnt the taipan part of the canon universe?

he was at the end page of the toriko manga, and as long as it is made by the author i dont see why it is noncanon :/

@Jim

i went through this thread but im not sure what exactly we are talking about,

in your OP you wanted the dragon-kings tier to get lowered to normal star level? i mean this guy: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Derous

because i didnt see a ashurasaurus profile in the toriko-verse page :/

and what does the taipan matter now?
 
DocAnimeTheory said:
Also it says so on Acacia's page..
In Neo/Acacia's tab "Acacia's Demon Neo was stated by Don Slime to have ate countless stars. Neo is also at the top of the universal food chai, and should be greater than the Demon King and the Cosmo Mammoth's".
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Basically this, if Neo was stronger than these two demon king and the mammoth by his own statement then maybe Ashurasaurus can restrain his Tier despite only beat weakened/starving Acacia with the help of several similar powerful beast, but the thing is Acacia statment at the top of the universal food chain is kinda unbelievable due to the space taipan CL is revealed being much higher than his own.
 
The capture level of the Space Taipan is in an extra from after the manga ended. The capture level is not in the manga. This downgrade is nonsense.
 
Not Jim Sterling said:
Nope, its from vol 43 which being drawn by Mitsutoshi:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JBdq7XSA8...F5KMs/eNAEvvpPh5I/w1900/MR-18268-852579-6.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yEb-qneKf...5KKY/aKYhi4WoKio/w1900/MR-18268-852579-29.jpg
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Nope, i'm not gonna deal with your denial without sufficient proof and the fact is everyone current Tier is already generous enough as acacia previous universal food claim has been debunked by the Space Taipan(heck before that acacia himself make questionable claim such as say nothing can beat the blue nitros) the extra itself already proof to be accurate and it from vol 43 which being drawn by Mitsutoshi.
 
DocAnimeTheory said:
Agreed, but capture levels give us a general sense of how close in power two beings are. Which is why i used "~".
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I see, this is from the same guy who said it.

Anyway see you in several hours.
 
You can have a certain capture level for an entirely non attack potency reason. But capture level can give us a "general sense" of how close in power two fighters such as Bambina and Ashurasaurus are. Are you trying to imply that i flip-flopped? Didn't work..
 
Yep, except a piece of neo/acacia who got one shots by the rest of the kings is still manage to easily kill 100 beast with capture level of 4000, and his current Tier justification is not valid anyway as acacia is not nearly at full power you say nothing about that and you are implied that somehow Ashurasaurus has about 83% power of Bambina who has CL of 6000, meanwhile even beats who has 66% CL of bambina is completely fodder to him.
 
Neo/Acacia is significantly stronger than the Demon King who is far into Large Star level. Hence even if Neo/Acacia had his power reduced by say 85%+ he'd still be Large Star level. Star level is a very narrow tier, only ~ 3x. The attack from Ashurasaurus made Neo/Acacia scream in pai .

Also 17% could easily make the difference between being and not being fodder. It's nearly a 1/5th difference.
 
Neo/Acacia is significantly stronger than the Demon King

Wat? from where did you get that, Toriko himself only theory about the creature's existence and come to believe after he fought against acacia, and there are possibility that demon itself is an appetite demon like neo and neo is definitely not at the top of universal food chain for appetite demon, And even if Ashurasaurus is still large star, I pretty sure likely or possibly is more appropriate as Neo is far from full power and these creatures is completely fodders to him after he resurrected again.
 
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