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What's the striking strength needed to cut through steel plate armor of average thickness with a sword or knife?
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AP for cutting through plate armor with a bladed weapon?
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What kind of sword.
Also you asking what the AP of the strike is or the strength needed to do So?
Also you asking what the AP of the strike is or the strength needed to do So?
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Curiously enought, there's no any kind of unit to measure the edge of material or similar...
Anyway, a 10-A crusader (for example) should be able to cut through another crusader armor, the impact itself should be 9-C. However, a crusader with a katana (or a blade just as edgy) would requiere less strength to cause the same damage.
Anyway, a 10-A crusader (for example) should be able to cut through another crusader armor, the impact itself should be 9-C. However, a crusader with a katana (or a blade just as edgy) would requiere less strength to cause the same damage.
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I'm asking this since Valyrian steel swords are stated to be capable of cutting through iron/steel armor with a hard enough strike, so let's go with longswords (Oathkeeper), bastard swords (Longclaw), and zweihanders (Ice)TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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Crusaders wore chain mail, not plate, and even then 10-A and realistic 9-C people couldn't cut through that with a sword. Also, katanas having an easier time cutting through armor, or even cutting through armor at all irl? You've been in that part of the Internet a bit too much. Traditionally-made Japanese katanas were actually kinda bad since the steel in Japan was pretty bad for sword makingAntoniofer said:
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We talking slicing the armor or the armor and the person in two? The latter is in wall territory.
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Templar, crusader, zealot, I don't recall the difference, but to make it simple, the sword of someone cut through the armor of another one. Maybe I confused the things a little, maybe you are refering to cut the whole armor, meanwhile I was refering to cut or pierce just the front, and yes, that is possible cuz I watched History Channel.
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Cutting deep enough into the armor to severely or lethally wound the person wearing itTheJ-ManRequiem said:
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There is actually a method of finding out what the OP asks but you'd need to know several variables.
For example, you can estimate the resistance of the steel armor by knowing properties of steel itself, like tensile strength, hardness (which is really a general term to describe a substance's resistance to deformation, and can be complex), fracture resistance from pressure, etc.
But you'd also need the characteristics of the object you strike it with, and the force behind the strike. In this case the properties of the valyrian steel, and the dimensions of the edge of the blade which will affect the amount of force per square unit area.
Having all of these variables known will allow you to come to one of these possible conclusions
1. The valyrian steel is strong enough to cut the armor but the wielder is too weak to do so
2. The Valyrian steel is too weak even though the wielder is strong enough, hence the valyrian steel sword breaks when a large force is applied
3. The Valyrian steel and the wielder is strong enough and it will cut through it
If you know only some variables, it's just a matter of putting it into an equation. If you want to know the force required behind it, then all the other variables must be more or less clear.
For example, you can estimate the resistance of the steel armor by knowing properties of steel itself, like tensile strength, hardness (which is really a general term to describe a substance's resistance to deformation, and can be complex), fracture resistance from pressure, etc.
But you'd also need the characteristics of the object you strike it with, and the force behind the strike. In this case the properties of the valyrian steel, and the dimensions of the edge of the blade which will affect the amount of force per square unit area.
Having all of these variables known will allow you to come to one of these possible conclusions
1. The valyrian steel is strong enough to cut the armor but the wielder is too weak to do so
2. The Valyrian steel is too weak even though the wielder is strong enough, hence the valyrian steel sword breaks when a large force is applied
3. The Valyrian steel and the wielder is strong enough and it will cut through it
If you know only some variables, it's just a matter of putting it into an equation. If you want to know the force required behind it, then all the other variables must be more or less clear.
