Anai Miu Merged form vs Kakine Teitoku(Post revival)

[Aurasuke]

So I was thinking if Anai could defeat the number 2 esper

Anai Miu (merged form)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Anai_Miu

vs

Kakine

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kakine_Teitoku

Location

Academy City

Kakine has as many dark matter pieces as he did when he fought accelerator post revival. Kakine is allowed to use wings if he wants.

Round 1

In character

Round 2

Bloodlusted

Distance apart 100m

Battle takes place in Academy city

 

[Alakabamm]

Yes, she will. Kakine needs time to become a serious menace. MTFL+ characters wouldn't give him 10 seconds before its over.

 

[Aurasuke]

There's a few reasons why I don't believe that would be the case. Firstly it's said Kakine has subatomic level Regenerationn while she had only shown feats of celluluar level destruction. Suppose she manages to destroy him on a celluar level, she would need a lot longer to all his atoms of dark matter which is about 20 trillion.

I was thinking if she had anything else that would give her an advantage besides speed.

 

[Aurasuke]

Basically it means that she will need to attack about 20 trillion times faster in order to destroy every atom as oppose to every cell.

 

[Alakabamm]

We don't know if its subatomic or cellular or even x scale because Dark Matter is not actually matter, it is thousands of different forms of energy condensed together. Kakine is a queer energy being after his resurrection but that doesn't stop typical attacks from Mugino/Accelerator from hurting him. While it's true that Mugino attacks on a subatomic level, that is merely the baseline for what it could be. His Regenerationn might not even be that good. I'm willing to bet - based off the fact that Accelerator could still harm his body without direct contact - that he doesn't have Regenerationn nearly that good.

 

[Aurasuke]

which can create various forms of energy. Able to twist the rules of physics and turn harmless natural effects into a dangerous threat. Can randomly generate explosive force around himself via a telekinesis like power, flight, Regenerationn(High), immortality (type I and III), postcognition, Can use attacks on quantum level

It says on his profile his Regenerationn is (high) which is molecular or subatomic.

 

[Alakabamm]

He's not made of atoms/molecules. At best he's made of photons, but that might not be true either. Dark Matter is a new type of existence that Kakine introduced to the world.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Ill throw this in, I don't think this thread will go anywhere, but There was some debate about the Speed of this Anai Mui in the last thread vs Accelerator.

 

[Aurasuke]

Either way, she would need molecular destruction to kill him permanetly, and that's one of him, would she have time to kill all 300?

 

[Aurasuke]

Well the thing is Kakine can't kill Anai in her merged form, she's too fast. However there's a time limit to that form right?

 

[Aurasuke]

Ill throw this in, I don't think this thread will go anywhere, but There was some debate about the Speed of this Anai Mui in the last thread vs Accelerator.

Yes, about her cutting each cell with one strike or a lot of cells at once right?

 

[LordAizenSama]

Yes basically that, I think anyway.

 

[Alakabamm]

Ill throw this in, I don't think this thread will go anywhere, but There was some debate about the Speed of this Anai Mui in the last thread vs Accelerator.

MMm, I looked at her page and there were multiple cuts on each cell arrayed pretty randomly. That seems to imply that recalculating it would still make her MTFL+, just maybe a teensy bit slower. It's not like she slashed perfectly horizontally/vertically.

 

[Alakabamm]

Either way, she would need molecular destruction to kill him permanetly, and that's one of him, would she have time to kill all 300?

Not necessarily, again. He's made of energy but can be hurt by matter. It's not really quantifiable per se, that's why he's Academy City #2.

 

[Aurasuke]

That sounds a lot more reasonable than cutting all cells at the same time. 32200000000 Cells exist in the human body, however the number

At this scale, the width of a human hair is about 10 times that of the image. To help compare different orders of magnitude, this page lists lengths between 10ÔêÆ5 m and 10ÔêÆ4 m (10 ┬Ám and 100 ┬Ám). Distances shorter than 10 ┬Ám.

For the sake of this calculation 10^-4.5 will be used.

Let's assume the blade was 1 m long. Thus one cut results in 31622.7766017 cells being killed, however since an argument may result in cutting not being perfect we can cut that number down to about 16 000.

32200000000/16 000=2012500

Thus she made 2 012 500 cuts. Let's assume that each cut requies her to swing her sword 1m because she's making really large cuts. That's 2 012 500m. Let's also assume she takes 1 second to cut. Thus her final speed is That's 2 012 500 m/s. Sub relativistic.

 

[Alakabamm]

After combing through the Accel vs Kakine fight, I will amend my statement. Dark Matter is definitely a particle.

"The elementary particles that didn't exist in this world, Dark Matter" (Vol 15, To Aru Majutsu no Index)

Hence, it should be considered massively smaller than cells. She will not be able to kill him in time to prevent his spread. However, if her transformation is not limited, then Kakine will never catch her. I don't read Mahou Shoujou of the End so I will leave that one up to someone that knows.

 

[LordAizenSama]

from what I gathered,I believe her transformation is very taxing.

 

[Aurasuke]

Yes, it says her transformation has a time limit

 

[Alakabamm]

Okay, then Kakine by exhausting her.

Also, if she is sub-relativistic, Accel mercs her as well.

 

[Aurasuke]

It was a calc I just made for fun lol, I wasn't sure how to do it at first, but then this idea popped into my head.

 

[LazyHunter]

I think the result of this is obvious. She can't kill Kakine, who would likely start the battle by immediately starting to spread around his Dark Matter and creating Dark Matter beings. Her superior speed seems to be short burst only, as she only managed to kill one of the Mahou Shoujos attacking her with it and failed to catch and kill the others before they ran away, so it's likely not something she can do to several opponents at once, which is Post-Revival Kakine's specialty.

Also, her merging with her Mahou Shouho runs out in a few minutes at most and is really taxing, leaving her in bad condition and needing medical attention. Kakine has all the time in the world, even accepting her speed as actual combat speed he easily outlasts her until she returns to being a normal human being.

 

[ZERO7772]

As everyone above said kakine can not do anything to her in her merged form but in the same time she can't kill him because of his regantion speed and the nature of the dark matter her merged form have a time limit while kakine was described several times as "infinity " technically he doesn't have a limite that was mention in NT6

So my vote goes for kakine

 

[Aurasuke]

Okay so basically 4 votes for Kakine no votes for Anai

 

[Thebluedash]

I agree with mostly what everyone else said. Kakine wins.

 

[KamiYasha]

Inconclusive to me.

Kakine doesn't have the speed to land a blow on her.

And Anai can't kill him because of his Regenerationn.

 

[LazyHunter]

^ That's only in her merged form, which she starts the battle with, but that runs out in a few minutes turning her back to a human and leaves her very tired and in need of medical atention. Kakine will survive her attacks and finish her off when she becomes a normal human again in both rounds.

 

[Tivanenk]

The heck? Did everyone jsut forget about the time splitting sword? She will just stop his time.

 

[Wyver_Luna]

i'm not familiar with Kakine's opponent, but in the case of that kind of weapon that Tivanek is suggesting, the main question is, does it affect ALL of him, even if split into multiple dark matter constructs? if not, then he can just survive via the fact that as long as any ammount of his personal dark matter exists he's alive and can split to survive. Also there's the question about just how far Kakine's physics defying dark matter goes. would he be able to evade the sword (assuming worst case scenario that it affects all of him even while split) via that defiance of physics, or simply be immune to time stoppage for the same reason? At this point it's just theoretical tho since i don't think Kakine has any time physics related feats?