It's not a feat? His experience as a fighter gives him an advantage in battle which alice doesn't have the experience to counter. I've also stated he can fight people who can literally copy/counter his fighting style and still win rather easily, so this is a skill feat, i don't understand why you think it's not. Like experience fighting boostes your skill in battle. Null point.
Experience is skill without substance. We don't know what Shide was facing throughout those 300 years of combat. He could've been fighting people not even close to Alice in skill, or with no feats of their own.
Experience is helpful, but it needs feats along with it for it to be meaningful. If Shide just has "300 years of experience" then it's not a feat, it's a statement that lacks feats.
If you said "He has 300 years of experience + here are some other feats he's done" then it would be a more substantial claim than "He has 300 years of experience". Because it doesn't matter how long you do something if you aren't good at it. You can be an artist for 30 years, but someone whose only practiced for 10 years can be better than you. You can be an artist for 300 years, and someone whose only practiced for 100 years can be better than you.
Experience ≠ skill.
None of this is on her profile so it's not usable, nor anything linked lol. Shide has a counter for people who ca detect his attacks; He can transfer his data into projectiles thrown at an enemy diverting thier attattention to a bullet fired by him and transfer his data behind them giving suprise strikes, you'd need to be able to sense him as data to counter this which Alice doesn't have,
It doesn't need to be on the profile; it should be, but it doesn't need to be. The only way this would need to be on the profile is if it was some kind of new stat, or new ability, but it's not, it's all just skill for Alice, which you don't need to list every single feat.
Cool that he has a counter, Alice has countered people who counter people who counter people who detect attacks. Big difference.
Accelerated development... Does she even use that in combat? Again if you go the route of "she copies his skills", shide has fought someone with this capability.
Alice can copy someone's skills
so perfectly that she was still much better even though she considered herself having not really surpassed her opponent. Idk who this guy is, but its very doubtful he can replicate skills as effectively as Alice can, who can replicate skills so well that even incomplete replications, in her eyes, are much better than the original.
My bad. Now how does she deal with echo, wouldn't it break her concentration as it's an attack that literally happens in real time to counter opponents.
She can concentrate perfectly when stabbed in multiple areas by that poison I mentioned. She'll be fine; not to mention she'd just dodge the attack.
More skilled than someone with 300+ years of fighting experience? Alice's intelligence is listed as "Very High" while Shide is a whole genius. This alone makes the evident difference in skill
I would advise you to look at things with a bit more insight. Intelligence ratings aren't anything at all.
If I wanted to, I could make a CRT to list Alice as an Extraordinary Genius right now and I'm pretty sure it would get accepted without much issue; but I haven't, because she doesn't need a "Genius" rating for her to be considered an intelligent character. Ratings aren't everything, it's feats, and if you really, really want me to get her a rating, I'll do it literally rn.
Those are pain tolerance feats. Those aren't feats that determine how long you can fight, doesn't matter. Shide outlasts based on how long he'd be able to fight her for, his stamina being basically infinite as he fights with his human form being the only thing that gets tired, he can stay conscious for over 4 days so.
Again, please look at the situation with a bit more insight. Pain and injury play a big role in how long you can stay conscious. That's how stamina works.
I consider fighting for an entire day straight while under the effects of an insane poison like that far, far more impressive than just staying conscious for 4 days doing presumably nothing. Fighting while injured will, most of the time, be more impressive than fighting while not injured unless you're fighting for obscenely long periods of time like for months or years or things of that nature.
If you are going to claim that Shide has infinite stamina, then do provide evidence for that claim, because FAR unlike intelligence feats, stamina ratings
do need to be on the profile, and i wont be considering it a factor.
Not to mention, the profile doesn't mention him staying conscious for 4 days either, so like... you get on my case for things not being on the profile, yet also mention things that aren't on the profile. So are we going to be hypocritical or are we going to make an actual point?
How? The characters in the show have action mimicry, adapting along with precognition and shide can overpower them just fine.
If he overpowered them how is that a skill feat.. can you actually show scans of how Shide fought these supposed people?
Them by themselves are trained mercenaries but that doesn't even matter, he fights supernatural beings that can copy his own movement, are comparable to him in strength and overpower them based off his simple experience fighting as a shadow for up to 300+ years.
Them being trained mercenaries isn't much to be impressed about. The average assassin for the organization are part of the upper echelon of killers in the entire world
who constantly regulate overpopulation through killing, and
killers literal world's beneath Alice can slaughter countless troops like nothing, something Dinoponera as a Chile could do simply by imitating her father's actions.
Him fighting supernatural beings is empty unless you show me HOW he fights them. Just saying he fights them doesn't prove your claim that he's more skilled than Alice just because he fights for 300 years... all it does is tell me that he did something, but doesn't elaborate on the method.
If I told you that "um, Alice overpowered these guys!" you'd ask for more context as well, right? I will literally provide the exact context you are looking for:
Gokiburi's air sensing is
negged by Alice's CEC (CEC has separate applications, the ability to slow down and speed is separate from the quick and precise decision provided by concentration), which is
negged by Dinoponera's CMC which has the same ability and can read movements based on an obscene number of physical factors, which is then negged
by Sasori's "future sight", Alice
then engages in a prediction battle with Sasori's future sight after her speed boost (
which is far superior to Dinoponera's) barely allows her to hit par for her to engage in the prediction battle, and after beating Sasori
Alice faces Suzumebachi who crushes her so thoroughly that it's not even a matter of speed with his own CEC, and then grows to the point
she easily defeats even him.
That's Alice's scaling chain, and anyone will consider that to be light years better than "I've fought for 300 years!" Such a statement is completely substanceless with no feats supporting it; it's a non feat to the point I barely consider it a factor.
I've established above the skill difference along with the longlasting stamina difference
And I just debunked it. Quite thoroughly.
First of all incorrect. Can her kumiko interact with Abstract Beings including data manipulation, memory and mind manipulation, (mind and memory haven't been accepted yet but data stands
Not on the profile!
Shide's armor is said to be made of nothingness, no mention of data anywhere. So, any evidence?
Besides there are no gaps in his armour for the kumiko to attack, that's a false claim which cannot be proven
The armor morphs and shifts in the scans on the profile. If it's not constantly a solid mass, it inherently has gaps.
If she uses a single thread on him, his echo kicks in yo counter (strikes with the same force and properties as hers)
Nowhere on his profile says that Echo is an automatic ability, he has to use it consciously, and given Alice is FAR MORE SKILLED as I've spent several paragraphs detailing, and far faster, he will never land it on her.
she can't dodge then she's finished
Luckily she can dodge it, lol.
it takes into consideration speed aswell so the gap in speed can be made up for echo which would oneshot her for reasons above (AP being 2 one shots higher than 0.009). According to her profile, she doesn't immediately get the frozen time perception thingy, it happens overtime but ofc her speed boost is instant.
Literally where does it say that it takes time for her to activate her perception? Cause based on the scans it happens instantaneously, something I've already provided evidence of.
And even if it's as fast as her, Alice will still dodge it; she's fought and beaten people as fast or faster than her before, something I've already shown above.
I'm not even going to respond to the babbling that comes after this because I don't feel like repeating shit I've already said. All I gots to say is that you need to look at how fights work with a less narrow viewpoint.
As Alice has no way to kill Shide permanently, I will vote inconclusive.
