About the "No controversial matches" rule

[PaChi2]

Avoid controversial matchups, such as Son Goku versus Superman, or Dragon Ball versus DC, Marvel Comics, or Saint Seiya characters in general, as they recurrently lead to hostility between different members.

Well, since DB vs Marvel/DC is outright banned, could we think of other controversial matchups? I mean, another example for the rule as the one used is not allowed to happen in any way.

This isnt important, btw.

 

[Schnee_One]

Most Fairy Tail matches, as well as HST matches as a whole.

 

[LordGinSama]

One Piece vs Fairy Tail threads give me Vietnam flashbacks. But they shouldn't be banned.

 

[PaChi2]

Im not talking about banning, that rule isnt about banning, just asking people to please refrain from creating controversial matches.

 

[Schnee_One]

In all seriousness, we allow OP vs Fairy Tail, which leads to conflict, but DB vs Marvel or D.C. Is banned for the same reason

 

[LordGinSama]

Ah then yeah maybe One Piece vs Fairy Tail threads could be added. Because they get heated very quickly and well, the fandoms don't exactly get along.

 

[Assaltwaffle]

I think it's less of controversial and more of "these popular characters just end up stomping/getting stomped and the matchup is pointless."

Stomps happen a lot, and we don't need more from people wanting to throw haxless Goku into the thick of haxed popular verses.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Bleach vs Naruto.

Digimon vs Pokemon.

Well, I don't know any others aside from One Piece vs Fairy Tail.

 

[PaChi2]

This thread is about changing the rule to include controversial matchups that ''can happen'' because DB vs Marvel/DC ''cannot happen'' since they are banned.

 

[Seventy96]

How about JoJo vs DB?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I still think our no DB vs DC/Marvel rule is silly after all this time, but that's not what this is about. Dante vs Bayonetta I think would be a good example of a controversial match that you're looking for. Hades vs Arceus was controversial, but that was because of Tiv, so less so now.

 

[Kaltias]

I'm actually pretty sure that we had a Dante vs Bayo back when he was 3-A and iirc everything went smoothly

 

[Joseph619]

I still think our no DB vs DC/Marvel rule is silly after all this time, but that's not what this is about. Dante vs Bayonetta I think would be a good example of a controversial match that you're looking for. Hades vs Arceus was controversial, but that was because of Tiv, so less so now.

It is silly. Nobody cares abotu DB vs DC except for Goku vs Superman. Banning whole DB vs DC makes no sense, other characters never created any rage anywhere. The most you can get is piccolo vs martian manhunter spam for a week.

 

[Newendigo]

Mmmhh PMMM, the last matches I remember felt very sour, some people get a bit overheated from Homura, and some other people just throw more coal to the fire.

 

[Megamangohan]

It is silly. Nobody cares abotu DB vs DC except for Goku vs Superman. Banning whole DB vs DC makes no sense, other characters never created any rage anywhere. The most you can get is piccolo vs martian manhunter spam for a week.

there still is superboy and many of the other characters who fight superman to think about

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Talking about spam, almost any spammed character like BB, 682, or Avatar of Calamity are more likely to cause controversy. It's like in their nature to do so. But spammed characters are going to be a little harder to contain since they technically aren't breaking any rules when you use them.

 

[Joseph619]

Just ban DB vs entire Superman family then. Other characters are not controversial in any forum.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

We had a discussion similar to this but then Ant closed it. I don't think he's going to let Marvel/DC vs. Dragon Ball happen at all. Period.

 

[Kaltias]

@New

I mean, the last PMMM thread that was getting heated was Homura vs Swamp Thing and even then it wasn't that bad.

 

[Seventy96]

Piccolo vs Martian Manhunter is banned because J'onn J'onzz stomp poor, little namekian?

 

[Newendigo]

Still, in one way or another, sooner or later, there'll be a flame war.

And I'm going to sit behind, ready for the show.

 

[Schnee_One]

Piccolo vs Martian Manhunter is banned because J'onn J'onzz stomp poor, little namekian?

Since piccolo one shots

Not really

 

[Arigarmy]

How about JoJo vs DB?

wasnt there like only one

 

[Schnee_One]

Two actually

 

[Seventy96]

Piccolo vs Martian Manhunter is banned because J'onn J'onzz stomp poor, little namekian?

Since piccolo one shots
Not really

Tier 4 Piccolo and Martian

 

[Arigarmy]

One was Ice VS One of the God characters I think, I don't know about the other.

 

[Kaltias]

Rohan vs Zeno too iirc

 

[Schnee_One]

^This

 

[Schnee_One]

Since piccolo one shots
Not really

Tier 4 Piccolo and Martian

That's a stomp yeah.

 

[Js250476]

Plus John still has that mind hax even with the other tier

 

[Arigarmy]

I don't think that deserves the two to have a ban against each other, I think it's just the issue of putting regular ol joes with super hax against literal gods with as much super hax.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am not well informed about the state of different fandoms clashing with each other, but I do not want lots of out of control hostility within our versus threads.

That is why the rule was worded in an open-ended manner, so people can use their own senses of judgement to avoid starting threads that will lead to conflicts.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Putting Saitama in the match up can result in some unpleasantries, especially if it's against DB characters, it seems.

 

[Creaturemaster971]

I could just not be considering all the ramifications, but I feel like the underlying issue lies less in creating controversial matchups and more in countering unreasonable people. Granted, this is an exceedingly difficult thing to do, but I feel like some of the matchups that are seemingly controversial could have reasonable, fun discussion to go with them (e.g. Pre-Downgrade Dante vs Bayonetta), and it seems better personally to just deal with things on a case-by-case basis.

Basically, if one salty fanboy is ruining an otherwise cool matchup idea for a bunch of more reasonable people, then the issue is with them, not the matchup.

Please take what I say with a grain of salt, however. Just a personal opinion.

 

[Antvasima]

The problem is that a sufficient amount of controversial threads could easily end up overwhelming for the staff to deal with, and constantly banning a steady stream of unreasonable editors does not seem like a better plan.

 

[PaChi2]

For the record, Im only asking if there are other controversial matches that could replace the ones in the rule because those ones are already banned.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. I was just responding to Jordan.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

It would be a good idea to keep an eye on Ben Tennyson matchups. Since threads where he is put against a haxed character Like Samus or Ryuko for instance were total shitstorms.

 

[Schnee_One]

I'd like to point out that when it comes to Dragon Ball matches, Future Warrior vs Pegasus Seiya was concluded with no issues and ended up being rather interesting.

I feel like their can be some exceptions to the rule as long as it's done well and without any real conflict.