About Infinite Speed

[Random1201]

Is it possible to be faster than a character with Infinite speed?

If so,how?

 

[Hat_mchat]

I think past infinite speed, it is no longer classified as speed in the traditional sense. Immeasurable is rated higher as it is beyond linear time, but they don't 'move' like things with 'speed' do.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Yes and it's called degrees of infinity.

Pretty much impossible to tell who is the faster infinity between different franchise though

 

[Kaltias]

^ This. It's basically the same thing as understanding who is the "strongest 2-A" in a match

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

You could try saying "this guy who moved with infinite speed blitzed this other guy with infinite speed who blitzed this guy with infinite speed", but it is still always going to be unclear.

The one way you could measure it would be using feats of people crossing infinite distance.

S = D/T

If one person crosses infinite distance in a minute, and the other crosses it in 30 seconds, you could say the second guy is a faster degree of infinite speed. But good luck finding an example of that, let alone two.

 

[Hat_mchat]

I thought time doesn't pass at all once you reach light speed. So 30 seconds and a minute are irrelevant. Something to do with lorentz contractions of time at relativistic speeds.

 

[Random1201]

How would blitzing a character with Infiite speed work?

And is it possible to just be a small bit faster than a character with Infinite speed?

 

[Kaltias]

Fiction doesn't really care about Lorentz factor most of the time, and when it does, it usually ***** up the math behind it.

FTL is pretty much impossible without distorting space-time in real life. Doesn't mean that every FTL character is a space-time manipulator

 

[Kaltias]

@Random

By being a higher degree of infinite speed. But I can't think of any example that I know of.

Yes

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

I thought time doesn't pass at all once you reach light speed. So 30 seconds and a minute are irrelevant. Something to do with lorentz contractions of time at relativistic speeds.

That is the theory of relativity. But fiction tends to ignore that, so we do too. Part of the reason why we don't use c or FTL speeds to calc kinetic energy of attacks, or else everyone past lightspeed would be High 3-A seeing as mass becomes infinite when its velocity becomes lightspeed.

How would blitzing a character with Infiite speed work?

And is it possible to just be a small bit faster than a character with Infinite speed?

By having a higher degree of infinity as your speed. Just a small bit faster would also be possible. Say... 1Xinfinity as opposed to 1.1Xinfinity. That sort of thing.

 

[Hat_mchat]

Ok assuming physics doesn't matter, then infinity divided by anything is still infinity so travelling infinity in 30 seconds is the same as in a year. For it to actually be higher you would need higher sets of cardinal infinity i.e the Aleph sets.

 

[Monarch_Laciel]

Ok assuming physics doesn't matter, then infinity divided by anything is still infinity so travelling infinity in 30 seconds is the same as in a year. For it to actually be higher you would need higher sets of cardinal infinity i.e the Aleph sets.

Infinity/30 = Infinity. This is true

Infinity/300000000 = Infinity. This is also true.

But it is also true that one is infinity/30, and the other is infinity/300000000

 

[Kaltias]

Not true.

Infinitesimal calculation says that if X approaches infinity, 100X:X is still 100.

So X:30 > X:31536000 even if X is infinite

 

[Hat_mchat]

I don't really get what you're saying, but almost any operation performed on infinity yields infinity as it is endless, this is only aleph 0 infinity, it's true higher infinities exist but it isn't as simple as just multiplying it.

 

[Antoniofer]

Actually, its impossible to determinate what infinity is higher, mathecally speaking. I'm, however, talking about the max speed in a 3-D plane.

 

[Hat_mchat]

What about the power sets of infinity though, aren't those higher infinities?

 

[Antoniofer]

What about the power sets of infinity though, aren't those higher infinities?

Not sure what you means, but talking about any kind of infinite measures in X dimension, is impossible to determinate: from maths, infinite - infinite =/= and infinite/infinite =/= 1, so you can't compare.

 

[Hat_mchat]

But what about objects in higher dimensions they are higher sets of infinity greater than lower dimensional objects, isn't that why we use the dimensional system?

 

[Antoniofer]

I'm talking about infinite itself in one dimension, you can tell who has a "majot infinity" by comparing the dimension; but in a same plane, like 3, 4, n dimensions, is imposible to determinate.

 

[Hat_mchat]

So what differentiates dimensions then?

 

[Antoniofer]

Let's go with an example: in 3-D plane, if a character moved infinite meters in 30 s, and another one moved 10 m in 0 s, both results are infinite, but there's no way to deteminate who is faster. Same apply to characters from higher dimensions, there's no way to determinate who is faster or stronger if is measured infinite.

If you want compare hig dimensions with another below, thats another thing; I'm guesing that the one from the higher dimension is "faster", but I don't know nor care about character that surpass the 3rd dimension.

 

[Hat_mchat]

I meant to ask what do you think is actually the difference between a higher dimension and lower dimension? I always thought it was that a higher dimension was a higher level of infinity greater.

 

[Kaltias]

A higher dimension is actually two degrees of infinity higher.

3D finite x infinity = 3D infinite. 3D infinite x infinity = 4D finite.

 

[Hat_mchat]

Well infinity x infinity is not a higher degree of infinity. Higher degrees of infinity are the Aleph sets which are made by having a set of infinite variations to cardinal infinity, i.e it is always different despite being endless.