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Sans vs Ditto (GRACE)

Sans2345

He/Him
5,184
685
Speed equalized

ditto is allowed to transform

win via death or KO

battle takes place in the judgement hall

SBA

Sans: 7 (CrimsonStarFallen) (Niccokirby) (Stillwinston) (TheArsenal1212) (Ogbunabali) (GyroNutz) (Ricsi-viragosi)

Ditto: 0

Inconclusive: 0

Ditto by racieb-1-
Sans ff2


VS
 
Sans, pretty easily. He's gonna be more creative with his powers, and he can just tell a joke/pun, which would be very in-character for him, reverting Ditto back.
 
When ditto transforms he gets the ability to use abilities to their full extent just like the person he copied so him and sans would be evenly matched

It then becomes who shoots first so I vote incon
 
He can use Sans' abilities to their full extent, but he still has the intelligence of a regular Ditto. So Sans should edge out.
 
That's not what that sentence means, but sure let's go with that. If we assume he starts trasformed, Sans still takes this but instead of no diff, it's mid diff. Sans can handle and dodge everything Ditto can throw at him, but Ditto can't.
 
Ditto literally gets everything the opponent has why would he not be able to dodge
 
Paul Frank said:
Ditto literally gets everything the opponent has why would he not be able to dodge
Sans will have everything Ditto has except Sans is smarter, more experienced, and the like. In what way does Ditto have any advantage?
 
Paul Frank said:
Ditto literally gets everything the opponent has why would he not be able to dodge
Because he only gets abilities and stats, not skill.

He can throw bones, use blue magic, etc. But he has zero knowledge how to use it with proper danmaku.


Sans fra.
 
Not the first time this matchup has been discussed, but certainly more indulged.

https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/460023

In any case, Sans is smarter & more experienced in the first place. Even if Ditto DID start Transformed, Sans is still better at using his own powers & Ditto has weaknesses like not being good at keeping its form if it laughs.

That's the problem with most Ditto matches; In its base, it's either weaker & transforms (With or without a period of pre-transformation vulnerability.) or it's stronger, & doesn't Transform.

So in almost every match it's either in a very inflexible base form, or fighting as a worse version of its opponent, primarily because it'll be less experienced with their powers/form.

"Who would win? Someone, or a worse version of themself?"
 
Ogbunabali said:
Instantly attacking > commanding an attack => attacking.
Commanding Ditto is also slightly redundant, considering it Transforms automatically & immediately if it has Impostor. Matter of reactions aside, a trainer is only helpful if they have an idea of Ditto's new abilities, or know something about its opponent.
 
Has this ever been added to their profiles? I don't see this match in either of their profiles...
 
Imaginym said:
Commanding Ditto is also slightly redundant, considering it Transforms automatically & immediately if it has Impostor. Matter of reactions aside, a trainer is only helpful if they have an idea of Ditto's new abilities, or know something about its opponent.
Yes, but it transforming is a good thing. A trainer can provide tactical decisions for the Ditto. Anyway, this shouldn't be added. It's super redundent. Also, why is speed equalized?
 
Sptflcrw said:
Imaginym said:
Commanding Ditto is also slightly redundant, considering it Transforms automatically & immediately if it has Impostor. Matter of reactions aside, a trainer is only helpful if they have an idea of Ditto's new abilities, or know something about its opponent.
Yes, but it transforming is a good thing. A trainer can provide tactical decisions for the Ditto. Anyway, this shouldn't be added. It's super redundent. Also, why is speed equalized?
Not sure. It's Subsonic Attack speed with Far Higher reactions vs Unknown/Varies Speed.

'course, Grace has finished for this match anyway, whether it's a skillstomp or a "decisive victory".
 
Guys, the match has been concluded eons ago. Why hasn't this been added to their profiles?
 
Imaginym said:
Not sure. It's Subsonic Attack speed with Far Higher reactions vs Unknown/Varies Speed.

'course, Grace has finished for this match anyway, whether it's a skillstomp or a "decisive victory".
Subsonic Attack speed is meaningless, considering it doesn't even have any attacks. It's obviously not a "stomp," but it's so meaningless I question why we let matches like this get added. It's like that match that we have between canon Jotaro and EoH Jotaro, where EoH Jotaro is literally just the same person but with more experience, and we added it.
 
What is this point about experience? Wild Dittos fight and use their enemy's perfectly copied powers on a regular basis.
 
Cropfist said:
What is this point about experience? Wild Dittos fight and use their enemy's perfectly copied powers on a regular basis.
Obviously a wild ******* Ditto isn't going to know how to use someone elses powers better than a genius like Sans would know how to use his own.
 
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